"Especially since FFVII was the game of that generation... I think that most of the games it went up against in that generation may be underrated." --what I was referring to Leonhart.

Though I realize now that therealmnm actually did refer to CT/FF7 quietly in that.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

Wasn't he referring to 32/64, not 128?
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

I'd be inclined to believe that MGS is more popular than 2, though it wouldn't surprise me if it went the other way, either.

Doesn't change the fact that Ghost Babel is the best in the series. >_>
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I read that as "FF7 is so huge, it SFFs anything from its system."
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xyzzy

Oh no. I don't think there was anything wrong with the divisional finals themselves! It's just that I don't like having to base everything in the 8-bit generation on how well Mario 3 was able to stand up to CT... Likewise with the other generations.

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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I read that as that, too.
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A Metroid once tried to suck the life out of Jack Thompson, but was unable to find any human energy to feed on.

God, I misread that TWICE.

It's entirely too late, yet I can't go to bed yet. Damn Advertising class.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

Oh, that's what you were talking about. <_< Oops.

But yeah, transience got it right. yay. Didn't think that would be confusing...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

MGS2 >>> MGS, goodness-wise. The gameplay is actually fun in that one, a sharp contrast to the other two games.

As for the debate as to which game get #3, there are three possibilities: Chrono Trigger, SSBM, and OoT. I can see CT being anywhere from #3 to #5, SSBM #2 to #4, and OoT as #2 or #3.

It's just that I don't like having to base everything in the 8-bit generation on how well Mario 3 was able to stand up to CT

But...that doesn't make any sense. That's how the XS work in every contest. None of the other 8-bit games would've stood up any better; hell, they might have had an advantage because SMB3 did it for them.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

I personally have no problem with that. SMB3 had the franchise disadvantage against both LoZ and FF1, and it compensated through sheer awesomeness and then some, because SMB3 is that special. In hindsight, those were two very convincing wins, and its small loss at the hands of CT was just the next step.
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A Metroid once tried to suck the life out of Jack Thompson, but was unable to find any human energy to feed on.

I personally don't think SSBM will be THAT high myself...
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

It depends on how much being new helps it out. Personally, I stand by it beating out SMB3 in a contest setting, and my entry closed with SSBM/SMB3 at #4/#5 on my list...not so sure on that one, but I still have confidence enough in it to not wanna change it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

So the first Halo got in and the second didn't? Or could both have gotten in?
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There is only one war of the brood!

Halo 2 CCOOUULLDD make it in, but it practically has to be tomorrow if it has a chance.

Which I don't think it does.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

I'd say Halo 2 is unlikely, but anything's possible.

I'm beginning to wish I had SSBM 4 and not SMB3, but who knows.

gah, the waiting inbetween games is killing me, especially since I have a score a 1. at least during normal contests I can watch the match unfold..

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xyzzy

Isn't this a bit early for the next game on the list to appear? Maybe Cjay is using a different timetable this time (12 hrs instead of 24 for example.)
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Jman_GamerX8 is the king of all Gurus.

did it show up right at 12? maybe the game shows up at 12 and the poll at 3.

I like it showing up early because people are around to talk about it. last night there were like 10-15 of us awake on the entire board.
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xyzzy

Oh early is good. I'm not complaining about that. I just thought it was a bit unusual.

On Halo2, I don't remember seeing it in the drop-down choices in the entry form (I could be wrong about it). That combined with the Halo1 possibly taking away some votes may doesn't bode well for Halo2's chances of showing up in the top10.
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Jman_GamerX8 is the king of all Gurus.

Halo 2 was snubbed from the list, yes. I deem it next-to-impossible for it to make the list, and, if it is, it'll be tomorrow.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

Copied from my Guru update:


A shocking 22 Gurus did not have Halo listed anywhere in their Top Ten. In my mind, that calls for a big dubya tea eff mate. The minute it was announced that Halo 2 wasn't to be listed in the drop down box, the original became a Top Ten lock for me. Divided, Nintendo and Square would have conquered... but with all of Xbox nation united behind a single game, I didn't see any way we were going to be able to keep it out of the final listing.

Even worse, we have 5 Gurus who didn't list either FF6 OR Halo. My goodness! It looks like in most cases it was faith in Halo 2/FFX that did them in. What a shame.

The Elite listing is quickly beginning to dwindle! Only 21 Gurus remain without a black mark on their record (aka, they're 2/2 in getting Top Ten games).

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I feel like tomorrow's gonna be a killer for entries. I suspect our first "surprise-entry" comes in tomorrow.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

I get the feeling something dropped and that will be our surprise.. like Mario 3 or LTTP or SSBM.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

Well, I had LoZ:LttP at #9, so, especially after seeing FF3/6 at #10, #8 wouldn't surprise me much...but yeah, the general consensus could take a hit from that.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

I keep wondering if SM64 and SMW are going to split votes. they're quite different, but both are Mario titles. I guess it's the same thing as OOT and LTTP splitting votes..

if you can't tell, I need FF10 to make it, heh.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

Heh, I need MGS to make it in too, I know how that line of thinkin' goes.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

If there was an outsider that had a chance to make it in, I would hope for it to be Super Metroid, out of personal bias. <_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I've been thinking that all day - "if my entry is going to get screwed, let it be on an actual good game, like SM."

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

Why get screwed on SM though when you could get screwed on a better game -- Metal Gear Solid?

Heh, being biased in two different ways RULES.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

I love the hell out of MGS, but it's not Top 10 material on MY list, partna! Super Metroid, however, holds that privilege.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

well, if you want to do that, FF10 > FF7 > FF6, and FF10 needs to be #8, dammit. I'll have a sexy score of 2 with all seven of my other picks available. not that I think FF10 has a whole lot of hope.. though it's got a better shot than MGS has, methinks.


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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

oh, and Super Metroid was my favourite game of all time for a lot of years. I love that game.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

I never got that much into it; I remember gettin' pretty far, but I never could finish it. It was fair fun, but I liked the original Metroid and Metroid Prime more.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

well, I am pretty Metroid-obsessed, and the series is the best in the book for speed running, something I do a bit of. throw in some fantastic replay value due to nonlinearity and it's the game/series for me.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

hmm, so one third on GF has never played FF6. assuming the same poll involves Halo, how many haven't played it?

I'll say the same percentage; one third. I am among that third.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

I hope I'm not the only one who sees something wrong with there being a "No, but I've played it before" option for FF3/6 and not Halo, considering the massive multi-player hit it was.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

they did the same thing with the Gamecube last week:

No, but I might for Twilight Princess 4.8% 3564
No, but I used to 4.45% 3301
No, never have, never will 21% 15580

it seems you're either buying a GC for TP or you're not buying one at all. I realize I'm like the only exception here, but still.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

HaRRicH, I think your poll was better. What's the point of having BOTH of the last two options, when they pretty much are saying the same thing?

Unless the fourth option is supposed to mean that they played it, but they didn't like it... But that's a horrible way of wording that...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

yeah, I didn't know which one to choose either. it seems like both are putting words in your mouth other than 'I've just never played it'.

I'm not sure why, but B8 seems to think Starcraft will be #8. it's doubling every other option in my prediction topic. I didn't expect that one.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1

I'm going to throw in the idea that it's possible a surprise is that SMB3 isn't on the list at all. I know it sounds a bit crazy, but for some reason I think more recent games are going to dominate the list.

Oh, and has anyone said that we already have our first inconsistent spring result with Halo > FFVI?
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
Crushed by Jman_gamerX8 as badly as Link beat Cloud.

I think it's more desperation to see it, period; I don't think many people thought it'd get as high as #8, though I think lots of people predicted it'd make the list.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

40% ownership for Halo isn't bad at all. I don't think that it's placing in the top 10 should be surprising to us in the least. Most of us figured that a Halo would be making a great deal of lists. Just couldn't decide on the impact of having no Halo 2 on the drop down list...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Nope, and it needed to be said. To be fair though, it might not be inconsistant with what today's stats would be if we had any to use...but I'd still doubt Halo > FF3/6.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

I'm goin' to bed, but I'll pose this...

FACT or FICTION: Outside of Super Smash Brothers Melee, no game newer than Halo will make the Top Ten.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.

Fact. Assuming the "Super Six" is a given, that only leaves us with two spots, and I'd imagine both SMW and SM64 have a better chance of making the list than any PS2 game.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

I still don't trust the Spring Stats since the divisions were grouped by Generation. With a bunch of games being so related, I don't like the fact that the strength of ALL the games in a generation were based on how one single game stood up to another generation.

It's funny how people always point to this as the reason generational divisions are problematic... when the strength of a division is ALWAYS based on how a single division winner stacks up against another division winner. The real reason generational divisions are questionable is that there's a lot more possibility for SFF inside the division than there would be if the generations weren't segregated.
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SC2K5 and SpC2K5 First Vote Champion
Jman_gamerX8 kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.

so even a fully flegded xbox support couldn't put halo in the top 7. but halo>FFVI wtf?
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

I think it's more desperation to see it, period; I don't think many people thought it'd get as high as #8, though I think lots of people predicted it'd make the list.

I disagree - I'm actually getting more confident in Starcraft making the list rather than less. Pre-contest, Starcraft was projected to be in the top 10, and so far we haven't seen any evidence that a game outside the consensus top 10 is going to displace it. All we've seen are two consensus top 10s doing a little worse than expected.

Until we see evidence to the contrary, I believe the best prediction we have is that the rest of the consensus top 10 is in the relative order we predicted. So I'm not dismissing Starcraft until I see something like SMW, Super Metroid, or MGS in the top 10 - evidence that something actually displaced Starcraft.
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SC2K5 and SpC2K5 First Vote Champion
Jman_gamerX8 kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.

Score!
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Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

FICTION: Don't doubt San Andreas. It's fresh, and has the wildcard of having a couple new versions released within the past two months. Not to mention Jack Thompson is talk of the VG community right now, because of SA.
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