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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 268
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 4:30:51 PM | Message Detail
I also have SM64 at #8 and SMW at #10

Ditto. And I don't even like SM64 that much. Just figured that it was THE Mario game of the 32-64 bit era, and probably his most popular game in the last two generations (not including SSBM). Plus it's re-release on the DS probably sealed the deal for it, as it introduced a whole new demographic of gamers to it. (SM64 DS wasn't on the list right?)
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 10/27/2005 4:32:21 PM | Message Detail
Like I said, if you play FFVII on PSX/2 and play Chrono Trigger on PSX/2, you're going to prefer FFVII. Anyone who prefers the FFC-load Chrono Trigger is lying.

I only played the PSX versions of both.

CT >> FF7.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 10/27/2005 4:46:05 PM | Message Detail
Meh...I'm sad that FFVI only got #10. ;_; I think my entry has it in 5th...bah, it was 6th before. I thought there'd be more FFVI fanboys than this...it almost freaking beat Zelda: LttP. Considering Zelda: LttP probably gets more casual support than FFVI, I expected FFVI to get more support than LttP among the more hardcore...meaning it would do better than LttP. Heck, FFVI got a higher seed than LttP, too. But, I was very wrong in that. Oh, yeah...and this leaves too much room for FFX to slip in ahead of FFVI.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 5:05:58 PM | Message Detail
Does this mean he'll have a new Top 10 every day, or will he just have that list up for the whole contest?

CJayC is actually accepting various top 10s from the users. Ulti made a topic about it somewhere.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 5:13:12 PM | Message Detail
In just under five hours, the "No, and I've never even played it" option gained over 3%. I'd do the after-school vote thing, but FireFox froze up on me earlier and now I can't (damn). I believe all the other options went down to some degree too though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: Iamalargewoman | Posted: 10/27/2005 5:17:36 PM | Message Detail
Trying to extrapolate something.

A is the strongest
B got 7.69% on A
B got 52% on C

Using this formula: [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA

Would this be the correct setup?

[(48x52)x(7.69x92.31)]/50

I think that's right. However, I get an answer somewhere around 30000. What is the problem?
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From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 5:24:43 PM | Message Detail
assuming I'm understanding you right..

(7.69 * 48) / 50 = 7.38

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From: Dante_es_dum | Posted: 10/27/2005 5:27:21 PM | Message Detail
Oh, I see. Thanks, trans.
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From: Prometheus321 | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:10:38 PM | Message Detail
wow so slow

FACT or FICTION: There will be one game in the top ten that is not one of the super six or any of the following:


SSBM
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X
Kingdom Hearts
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Halo
Halo 2
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Metal Gear Solid


I'm going to go out on a limb and say FACT

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Next SM64 at #9
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:14:03 PM | Message Detail
I'll say FICTION, though fact is tempting only because of the potential Starcraft has.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: Digital Pad | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:14:57 PM | Message Detail
I think I had Sonic 2 at #10.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:16:37 PM | Message Detail
I really can't see SC getting higher than ninth. if it's not next, I don't think it's in.

I think by the time we get to #6, we'll have a good idea of who's won the Guru contest. unless we get a big surprise, that is.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:17:02 PM | Message Detail
Fiction. I don't see Starcraft as more of a nominations beast than FFVI, especially when it wasn't even the most nominated PC game last Spring.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:25:36 PM | Message Detail
I really can't see SC getting higher than ninth. if it's not next, I don't think it's in.

I think by the time we get to #6, we'll have a good idea of who's won the Guru contest. unless we get a big surprise, that is.



Agreed on both counts. After #6, the only surprise really left is if SSBM gets in the Top Three (assuming it makes the Top Fine) or if FF7 somehow loses.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:27:11 PM | Message Detail
to me, the big surprise is what happens to Halo - it could be anywhere, including not on the list at all.

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:30:20 PM | Message Detail
I think by the time we get to #6, we'll have a good idea of who's won the Guru contest. unless we get a big surprise, that is.

I don't. You can make a very good case for SMB3 or CT at #3, and a fair one for SSBM or LttP. We'll probably know what the "extra" 3 slots are by then, but we still won't know the remaining order.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:34:14 PM | Message Detail
I don't think he meant all our answers would be solved; I understood it more as "well, there'll be no more shockers, just things we can see as reasonable."
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 8:34:44 PM | Message Detail
yeah, but that's (in most cases), a point or two. which two or three games are coming next is much more up in the air and will cost us more points.
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xyzzy
From: Phediuk | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:03:21 PM | Message Detail
Whoamg! Halo is #9. DAMNIT! I knew I shoulda put it on there. -_-
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:10:18 PM | Message Detail
Looks like I should concede to Chichiri and admit my wrong (as should most of us, 'fess up). He said he didn't see it gettin' too high, and, well...he's right. I had it at #6, for the record.

Halo, #9.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:11:54 PM | Message Detail
Bah. It wouldn't have mattered anyways, as I had Halo 2 at #9 before I took it off. Looks like those saying people wouldn't feel like writing in Halo 2 and just putting in Halo were right. Even IF a number of people put Halo 2 on the list, they probably put Halo on the list also...

This makes me really wonder if GTA:SA is going to make the list...
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:12:44 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and, since Halo reminds me, I'll still sig-bet with anybody that Halo 2 (or any other write-in) doesn't make the list, though I doubt anybody wants to take me up on that now. If Halo 2 does make it in though, it'll be very soon...like, next.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:15:29 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I originally had Halo the Second at #9 and I swapped it out for SMW. Not that it really would have mattered, but it's kinda funny.
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pi
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:17:05 PM | Message Detail
HateAndPlague wins for mentioning Chakan, by the way. I never was good or got very far at it, but man, was it ever bad-ass.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:17:56 PM | Message Detail
whoa, that came out early...

oh well, 1!

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xyzzy
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:19:14 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I originally had Halo the Second at #9 and I swapped it out for SMW. Not that it really would have mattered, but it's kinda funny.

Okay, this is getting creepy. I did the same thing, except I put SMW on the list at #10
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:20:18 PM | Message Detail
Halo? Now I'm somewhat surprised. Barely over 40% of the site visitors even own the console that runs it... and still it beats out every other game ever made save 8, but including FF6. That's scary... with FF6 so low, I expected filler like SMW, SM64, Wind Waker... but Halo?
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:21:16 PM | Message Detail
...

I originally had:

7. Final Fantasy VI
8. Super Mario 64
9. Halo 2
10. Super Metroid

But I changed to:

7. Final Fantasy VI
8. Super Mario 64
9. Super Metroid
10. Super Mario World
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pi
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:21:23 PM | Message Detail
Message From HaRRicH at 2005-10-23 07:18:12
What is your stance on the Halo series?

--I played and enjoyed both games.
--I liked Halo 1 but not Halo 2.
--I liked Halo 2 but not Halo 1.
--I disliked both games.
--I haven't played either game.



I submitted this poll just the other day, and it got filed; tomorrow would be a prime time to use it, CJay...*cough*.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:25:23 PM | Message Detail
Time for another BOP feature... 39 people out of 84 saw Halo coming;

1 in 3rd
1 in 4th
6 in 5th
3 in 6th
5 in 7th
8 in 8th
10 in 9th <-- correct
5 in 10th

Additionally, Halo came in 52nd for favorites, with 23 points and 5 picks:

1 in 4th
1 in 5th
1 in 6th
1 in 7th
1 in 10th

Halo was nowhere to be seen on my entry.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:29:08 PM | Message Detail
For my entry's sake, I nneeeedd to see Metal Gear Solid tomorrow, or else I lose all hope of it making it (and, really, the chance of it making it now is too small to wish for, heh).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:29:33 PM | Message Detail
Once again, Halo is on my list somewhere...I think. At least it was at one time.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:34:23 PM | Message Detail
man, something is rather high.. maybe FF10, maybe MGS, who knows. for my sake, I hope it's FF10.

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xyzzy
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:34:51 PM | Message Detail
Halo? Now I'm somewhat surprised. Barely over 40% of the site visitors even own the console that runs it... and still it beats out every other game ever made save 8, but including FF6. That's scary... with FF6 so low, I expected filler like SMW, SM64, Wind Waker... but Halo?

Maybe because most of that 40% XBox ownership like Halo and have it somewhere on the list as it pretty much is THE XBox game, while everyone else is conflicted on what games to put on? (Metal Gears, Mega Mans, Metroids, Marios, etc.)

Hooray for alliteration!
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:35:52 PM | Message Detail
If FF10 was going to be on the list at all with FF6 at #10, it was going to be at #9.

And I seriously doubt MGS is anywhere, seeing how it's not even the most popular inside its own series.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:36:49 PM | Message Detail
Metal Gear Solid...not the most popular game in its series?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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From: transience | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:37:12 PM | Message Detail
well, the only other games that make sense are SMW and SM64. unless I'm forgetting something..

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xyzzy
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:38:55 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and before we get into the Spring Contest 2004 stats (which aren't the most reliable pieces of data to begin with), I've asserted for a while that FFVII SFF'd MGS in some way.

And, no offense, but anyone who'd take MGS2 over MGS1 in a head-to-head match is an idiot.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:39:41 PM | Message Detail
Of course I don't think those series will get a game on here (besides Mario of course). I was just stating that there's SO much more to choose from with other systems. Every XBox fan probably put Halo on their list...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:40:16 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:41:27 PM | Message Detail
Well, then that makes me an idiot.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:41:39 PM | Message Detail
MGS2 > MGS would be tempting man, it's hard to deny that. A generation newer and ahead in the stats as a 15-seed can be comforting...though I agree something minor happened in FF7/MGS, and I think anti-votes could affect MGS2, too.

It'd be tough for me to pick, I know that.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:42:30 PM | Message Detail
At least you're honest about it.

Seriously though, Metal Gear Solid 2 is NOT (and I emphasize NOT) the most popular game in the series. If you know ANYTHING about the fanbase, you know that it's the original.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:43:14 PM | Message Detail
MGS2 > MGS is only tempting if I'm going for a zero bracket. Otherwise, it's just not happening.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:44:19 PM | Message Detail
I still don't trust the Spring Stats since the divisions were grouped by Generation. With a bunch of games being so related, I don't like the fact that the strength of ALL the games in a generation were based on how one single game stood up to another generation.

Especially since FFVII was the game of that generation... I think that most of the games it went up against in that generation may be underrated.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:44:20 PM | Message Detail
There is something that fits horribly badly in that last post of yours, Leonhart. And no, it's not you saying the most popular is MG for NES/MSX.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:45:55 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I originally had Halo the Second at #9 and I swapped it out for SMW. Not that it really would have mattered, but it's kinda funny.

Maybe you've heard me complaining about it... but I actually have Halo 2 as #9! ARGH!

*kicks random object*
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:46:34 PM | Message Detail
Right now, MGS >> MGS2. I'm not enjoying MGS2 at all. MGS is the one that has all of the classic characters togehter in it as well. Liquid Snake, Grey Fox, Revolver Ocelot, Psycho Mantis, etc.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:49:15 PM | Message Detail
So, wait, people don't really have a problem with SMB3/CT or CT/FF7 as far as generational power goes, despite one capping off the bracket's Mario/Crono feud and another being the two most popular Square RPGs on the site, yet FF7/SSBM is problematic?

Granted, I don't always trust much of the 128 Division either, but it's hard to have a problem with FF7/SSBM and not the other two.


As for the MGS1/2 situation, I prefer MGS to MGS2...barely. Both are in my personal Top Ten though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/27/2005 9:50:14 PM | Message Detail
yet FF7/SSBM is problematic?

...It is?
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