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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 268
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:34:15 PM | Message Detail
I'm just worried this whole thing will actually make people care about him.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:36:44 PM | Message Detail
Me too, which, in a weird way, would take away joke-votes in a sense, heh. I know what you're gettin' at though.....
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:37:57 PM | Message Detail
The whole point is to get him in and then not vote for him. We care about him solely so we can have someone that Tanner would blow out -- that means voting for Jay Solano is actually like voting against Jay Solano (or voting for Tanner by proxy). Besides, there's only ~70 people on the board that know who he is, and even Tanner managed ~4500 votes against Snake. It wouldn't make that much of a difference.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:39:28 PM | Message Detail
I'll go one further:

if you're part of the JS army, not only do you vote against him, but you vote against whoever beats him as well. this is all about making him look like pure crap. no one will vote for him.

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From: Pianist | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:45:54 PM | Message Detail
It's rather sad how many people will generalize stats topics instantly. I visit the stats topics pretty rarely. I make a few posts defending an idea that is far from ludicrous, and suddenly people are knocking the entire stats topic for coming up with ridiculous theories.
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From: Tai | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:49:18 PM | Message Detail
solid snake seems the perfect opponent cause to the casual gamer both are hardcore super soldiers and your always gonna vote for snake in that case

Could Snake get 95% on Jay Solano? I don't know...I feel Snake's a tad too high as a N9 to really give Jay Solano the beating and embarassment you all seem to be hoping for.

I think Bowser's the best choice by far to get this operation done, and I think the chances for him are realistic. He could indeed put a beating that would easily put Jay Solano under Tanner if given the chance, because I think as a Nintendo character, he'll usually be voted for over a N-Gage character. I mean, Mario's arch villian, or anything from N-Gage? Look at Guybrush. Totally quadroupled, and only avoided getting quintupled by 1529 votes. Ness? Oh noes, Bowser FTW with SFF, and leaving Ness tripled thanks to it. Yes, he has the required credentials!

It's true Snake easily outranks Bowser (upset hype LOLZ!), but I don't know if he'll get the unanimous appeal since he's not a character from either Square or Nintendo. Yeah, sounds a bit distorted, doesn't it? It's true the highest seed Bowser can get is a 3, which puts a lot of pressure on Jay Solano to come through. However, with all the potential hype, I think it's possible to get Jay Solano a 14th at max. Yeah, I like where this can go. We just need as many nominations as possible. I mean, about 60 members for the army already and we have 9 to 10 months.

Yeah, this is going to take a lot of faith and believing.
Let's do it. :-) I'm going to sig him for now. How does it look?

Be proud. Nothing's made me replace my sig for my petition in a long time (I think I even forgot to change for the SC2K5 Guru winner, so congrats to him for pwning me and everyone else >_>')
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:51:38 PM | Message Detail
Kerrigan was uber-fodder, probably got in on board nominations alone, and got the equivalent of a 7-seed in a 4x16 format. There's a chance for Jay Solano to go somewhere.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:55:09 PM | Message Detail
Kerrigan had a lot of board nominations though, didn't she? I seem to recall that she was the highest-nominated character on board 8. JS has some work to do if that's going to be the case.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/20/2005 3:56:43 PM | Message Detail
IIRC, in the nomination tally topic, Kerrigan had 70-80 noms.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:00:57 PM | Message Detail
Kerrigan also wasn't perceived by all to be a joke character, either.

We're gonna have the nominations, no doubt on that; the question is if CJay accepts.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:04:31 PM | Message Detail
yeah, that's what I'm wondering. that's why TRE made his little JS page - so we could get a picture on GIS. that's why we need even more nominations than usual - just in case he's perceived to be a joke.
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From: Tai | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:05:05 PM | Message Detail
IIRC, in the nomination tally topic, Kerrigan had 70-80 noms.

Good improvement from the Villians Contest, where she got 48 nominations according to my topic. =\

Jay with 59 nominations since I joined. Yum. :-)
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From: transience | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:05:25 PM | Message Detail
oh, and judging by his Big Rigs comment in the current contest, I'd say the chances are good he'll throw out any joke nominations. my hope is that he doesn't realize it's a joke.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:07:47 PM | Message Detail
You know when he does the profiles for the characters that he'll do a double-take when he realizes it's a character from an N-Gage game.

New sig, by the way.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: Tai | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:08:23 PM | Message Detail
If such a joke like Tanner was able to get in, then hopefully so can Jay Solano. When was Operation Shadow released?
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From: Tai | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:09:27 PM | Message Detail
Hell, CATS keeps getting in every year, and we all know he's a joke. What, people care about him? No, only his notorious saying. XD
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:10:23 PM | Message Detail
Note that Driv3r was released just as the nominations ballad was too though. Tanner just had very fortunate timing; I don't think there was a single person on our board who knew who he was.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:11:15 PM | Message Detail
I remember joking around before the match that Tanner from the Bond movies would do better.

I stand by it, of course.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:11:49 PM | Message Detail
Yes, but CATS is the joke of the contest. Neverminding the fact he's actually shown some strength this year, the contest wouldn't be the same without him.

For better or for worse, mind you, but it wouldn't be the same.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: swirldude | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:27:05 PM | Message Detail
CJay probably knows already about this, he need only read one stats topic for someone to mention Jay.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:29:36 PM | Message Detail
this is a good thing - I get less and less "who the hell is Jay Solano?" questions lately. soon I can just call him "Jay" and everyone will know.

and nice sig, Harrich. between that and your user bracket, you get a huge gold star as my kickass user of the day.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:51:38 PM | Message Detail
Much appreciated. I plan to switch up the second line through-out the off-season (unless I find somebody else I wanna get behind heavily to nominate).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 10/20/2005 4:52:22 PM | Message Detail
Super Mario 64 = 3rd favorite game
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/20/2005 7:50:39 PM | Message Detail
At 11:00 AM GameFAQs-time:
DS 5.69% 1773
PlayStation 3 32.94% 10255
PSP 3.81% 1186
Revolution 20.58% 6406
Xbox 360 22.36% 6962
A new PC 6.76% 2105
A new video card for my PC 5.22% 1626
Other 2.63% 820
TOTAL VOTES 31133

At 7:30 PM GameFAQs-time:
DS 5.39% 3609
PlayStation 3 32.66% 21874
PSP 3.65% 2444
Revolution 20.83% 13951
Xbox 360 23.38% 15660
A new PC 6.51% 4363
A new video card for my PC 4.87% 3259
Other 2.7% 1810
TOTAL VOTES 66970

DS - -.3
PS3 - -.28
PSP - -.26
Rev. - +.25
360 - +1.02
New PC - -.25
New card - -.35
Other - +.07

I got the first data about an hour earlier than when the after-school vote traditionally starts, so excuse me on that. Regardless, the Xbox pulls out another after-school boost, though one could question how much of it is really FOR the system (for a lack of a better way to say it); consider that it's supposed to come out the soonest of the other gaming-only choices by a significant margin (unless it's been delayed and I don't know it).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/20/2005 8:47:51 PM | Message Detail
On Sephiroth breaking 60% on Ganon/Bowser: he probably would, but not necessarily because Bowser/Ganon overperformed like hell on Seph. Didn't everyone see Sephy and Cloud (and to a lesser extent, Vincent) go SSJ after Advent Children's release?

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/20/2005 11:49:41 PM | Message Detail
Cloud's boost was much smaller than Vincent's. It's a lot harder to get a boost when you're already a big character, and Vincent already had Kingdom Hearts going for him.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/21/2005 1:43:28 AM | Message Detail
What the hell are you two talking about? Cloud did worse on Link this year than last year. There was no gain, not even a small one, and at best he stayed perfectly level. To say he increased is to say nearly every character in the contest increased.
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From: rpgapzx | Posted: 10/21/2005 3:29:10 AM | Message Detail
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but what if CJay pit Jay against Master Chief. He'd get sucked into mediocrity all the way up to a "respectable" percentage.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/21/2005 4:12:48 AM | Message Detail
That shouldn't be too likely.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/21/2005 7:05:12 AM | Message Detail
I doubt Ceej would pit him against MC. That would totally defeat the purpose of having Mr. Solano in the contest. I'm sure Ceej actually pays attention to these things. Unless he just wants to piss us off, if Jay gets in the contest he will get put against someone that will destroy him.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 10/21/2005 8:25:33 AM | Message Detail
Jay vs CATS then?
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From: transience | Posted: 10/21/2005 8:31:40 AM | Message Detail
no, Jay vs. a real character. no anti-votes.

or so we hope. Jay would get 20% on MC.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/21/2005 8:36:20 AM | Message Detail
Jay VS King of all Cosmos? I can't see any anti-votes there. =P
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:01:19 AM | Message Detail
...I'd vote for Solano against the King.

Seriously, why is Bowser being considered the "best candidate to get the job done?" If he was that popular and unhated as it was, he'd be high elite. Honestly, Solid Snake or Mega Man would be best because they don't seem to draw a lot of anti-voting hate.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:02:13 AM | Message Detail
But regardless, any of the Noble Nine is more than capable, quite frankly.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:03:45 AM | Message Detail
There was no gain, not even a small one, and at best he stayed perfectly level.

Link likely boosted to, unless you think that Ganon 2k4 is as strong as Ganon 2k5.

To say he increased is to say nearly every character in the contest increased.

Well, lots of characters had good reasons to increase, so it does make sense.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:13:19 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but even with a slight Cloud drop the bulk of the field increased to monstruous proportions. Just look at every freaking Nintendo character (except Link, Zelda and Samus, probably), the Sonic characters, Dante, MC, Freeman... blargh.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:15:54 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but even with a slight Cloud drop the bulk of the field increased to monstruous proportions. Just look at every freaking Nintendo character (except Link, Zelda and Samus, probably), the Sonic characters, Dante, MC, Freeman... blargh.


No Zelda increase? What?

Dante, MC, and Freeman all had good reasons to boost, and there's always the Devil Division adjustment.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:16:20 AM | Message Detail
Heh, just as a funny thought, imagine this scenario: the contest starts on July 1st (like it did for two years), and we use the 8x8 bracket-format again (like this year). Jay gets to be a 7-seed in the first division...Jay, being an army character, would be gettin' his match on the 4th of July. Add to it possible 2-seeds like MC or Squall (or MGS1/2 Revolver, if you fancy), and Jay could actually surprise...

...ya know, as in gettin' above Tanner (like that would take a hell of a lot).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:18:49 AM | Message Detail
Even with that adjustment, Dante still goes up quite a bit. Not anywhere near what Kirby did, but he still goes into new territory.

Zelda? Comparing 40% on Megaman to 45% on Snake... I'd take the latter, but not by much by any means. Now what she did to Vivi... dot dot dot. Vivi's 2005 value would just barely be enough to defeat the DK of the old days.
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From: Tai | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:22:48 AM | Message Detail
Seriously, why is Bowser being considered the "best candidate to get the job done?" If he was that popular and unhated as it was, he'd be high elite.

*Shrugs* He's high elite in my book. He did really well against Snake. Hell, he was probably did the best out of all the hypemen (characters people thought would pull a N9 upset) Who would you put above Bowser before the Noble Nine? I'd only offer Vincent.

Honestly, Solid Snake or Mega Man would be best because they don't seem to draw a lot of anti-voting hate.

Ness and Guybrush wanna talk to you. They wanna know why Guybrush was almost quintupled and Ness tripled, and they won't take anti-votes for answer if that wasn't enough to keep them out of such a big hole.

And I think I'll say that it was because Bowser is the main villian of the best series Nintendo has. Samus got shown that the hardway from Mario.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:28:20 AM | Message Detail
I'd like to show you something about the Guybrush thing:

--In 2004, in a match with about 74,000 votes, Guybrush got 17.01% against Bowser.
--Two days later, in a match that got about 85,000 votes, Earthworm Jim got 17.02% against Mega Man.

I'm far more impressed by Mega Man's decimation of EWJ than Bowser's of Guybrush.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:31:06 AM | Message Detail
Megaman broke 92% on freakin' Ms. Pac-Man. Seriously, she may not be all that popular, but we all know Ms. Pac-Man, right? And he STILL broke 92%.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:33:53 AM | Message Detail
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/21/2005 2:49:41 AM | Message Detail | #126
Cloud's boost was much smaller than Vincent's.


Yes, if you assume that Link didn't go nuclear.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/21/2005 9:34:14 AM | Message Detail
Heh, I was wantin' to mention Ms. Pac-Man...but, if Yoshi supposedly SFF'd Pac-Man and Mega Man supposedly SFF'd Yoshi, then I would hate to imagine what Mega Man did to Ms. Pac-Man.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He, too, hates the Black Eyed Peas. Enough said.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/21/2005 11:36:16 AM | Message Detail
Well, Cloud's was smaller than Vincent's pretty much no matter what you assume. The stronger Link is, the stronger Vincent is by reflection. And Sephiroth's gain was obviously bigger than Cloud's as well, considering how the gap between them has closed since last contest, and even last year.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/21/2005 12:15:31 PM | Message Detail
I need a link to a favorite TOS character poll, stat.

Please? >_>

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/21/2005 2:57:22 PM | Message Detail
So I submitted a feedback ticket to suggest a "Favorite TOS Character" poll...

Message From GameFAQs at 2005-10-21 21:07:19
The majority of site users haven't played ToS, unfortunately.


Damn.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/21/2005 3:38:00 PM | Message Detail
What did you expect Ulti take a look where Lloyd and Kratos rank.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/21/2005 4:26:07 PM | Message Detail
Let me copy-paste the tail end of my PCA to see what the stats topic thinks about it....

The (lol) Extrapolated Standings

I did something a bit different this contest. I took creativename's numbers, but actually bothered getting off my lazy ass and made some adjustments to them. Normally I just do a copy-paste job on cn's numbers and leave it at that.

I also made a vain attempt at putting ranges into these stats. Note that the numbers on the left are my version of the 2005 Xsts, while the numbers on the right are ranges based off of creativename's numbers, specifically Base Link. I cannot stress this enough, because this might look a bit weird in some cases if you forget to note this. Also note that the contests in parenthesis are Base Link Xst values that I threw out out of feeling that the numbers are not valid. It'll make sense in some cases and no sense in others, so feel free to ask questions if you're confused about anything or if you want to tell me that I'm an idiot for not considering a Summer 2005 value to be very valid once the time comes <3

By the way, this is the first time I've ever bothered making adjustments and to my knowledge no one has ever bothered with ranges. If you see anything that's odd, feel free to yell.

And awaaaay we go....
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