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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 268
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:07:52 PM | Message Detail
SSBM will be #8.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:08:18 PM | Message Detail
My money's on Super Mario 64.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:11:01 PM | Message Detail
I remain unusually confident SMW won't make the list, though I'd love to see it up there.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:13:50 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum with regards to that one. I'm confident that SMW will place higher than SM64.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:17:57 PM | Message Detail
I'll say FF10 -> SM64 -> LTTP.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:50:52 PM | Message Detail
I think Super Smash Brothers Melee is being overestimated. I just can't see it beating out some of the biggest names (FFVII, OoT, Mario 3, Chrono Trigger). I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it tomorrow.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 10/28/2005 1:54:27 PM | Message Detail
Tomorrow, Gamefaqs will gain every creditibility it has lost during all this contests. NO 8 will be Gunstar Heroes.

>_>


Seriously, I think Sonic 2 will be the next game on the list.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:06:12 PM | Message Detail
After just witnessing Halo beat FFVI, there's no doubt in my mind that SSBM definitely has the ability to outrank Chrono Trigger. Whether it actually does or not remains to be seen, but I'd be pretty surprised to see it outside of the top 5.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:08:21 PM | Message Detail
Meh, Final Fantasy VI has to split with its own series. Chrono Trigger has to split with...Chrono Cross?
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:17:43 PM | Message Detail
Huh...Didn't notice that until just now, but FFVI jumped up into the top 10 FAQs today. Maybe generating some more interest for it, perhaps. Who knows?
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:32:01 PM | Message Detail
It's funny how people always point to this as the reason generational divisions are problematic... when the strength of a division is ALWAYS based on how a single division winner stacks up against another division winner. The real reason generational divisions are questionable is that there's a lot more possibility for SFF inside the division than there would be if the generations weren't segregated.

*sigh* But no other contest had the same correlation within the division that the games contest had. And that's to go on TOP of all the potential SFF within the division. It's really a moot point though. You can trust the Spring contest X-stats if you want...

I think Super Smash Brothers Melee is being overestimated. I just can't see it beating out some of the biggest names (FFVII, OoT, Mario 3, Chrono Trigger). I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it tomorrow.

I have SSBM at #3. My main reason is that although it may not make the top of many lists, I'm fairly certain that it will get on a large percentage of overall lists at some spot. Think about all the fans that this game reaches out to. It pretty much is THE Nintendo game of the generation. And look at the correlation of XBox ownership to Halo ownership. SSBM is the Gamecube's version of Halo, and we know that Nintendo > Microsoft on this site. I agree that SSBM could pretty much land anywhere on the list, but I'm betting that it's Top 5.

Huh...Didn't notice that until just now, but FFVI jumped up into the top 10 FAQs today. Maybe generating some more interest for it, perhaps. Who knows?

How are the Top FAQs determined on this site? Is it how many hits the individual FAQs of a game receives? Or is it all activity on the game's info page (codes, boards, etc.)? Either way, a direct link on the front page would play some role in that. But then Halo is nowhere to be found yet... So I really cant say...
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From: voltch | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:35:06 PM | Message Detail
you know when one thinks about it the game contest was racist.stacking up the consoles together no equality between young and old consoles
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:35:46 PM | Message Detail
"Racist" isn't quite the word you're looking for there.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
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From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:39:14 PM | Message Detail
yeah, I think we can ignore that racist post.

SSBM is a funny game - I (and I'm sure many others) thought it would lose to either VC or FF10 in the Game Contest, but it ended up beating them both. now we all think it's going to do very well, some as high as #3. it really could go anywhere.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:41:08 PM | Message Detail
Well, I predicted SSBM's path correctly in the Spring Contest (and even won MMX's Prophet Challenge on FFVII/SSBM, shameless plug, yo). Yeah, it's THE definitive GameCube game, but I don't quite think that's enough to get it that high.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/28/2005 2:50:09 PM | Message Detail
I thought SSBM's path was obvious, although it may have been for the wrong reasons. I figured it was probably both the most universally loved game in the division. All the other games I figured had their haters (WW, GTA, Halo) or simply weren't as popular as SSBM (Metroid Prime, MGS2, Kingdom Hearts). The only game that I thought might give it a challenge was FFX, and I personally didn't care for that game. I wrote off the rest of the games in the division (didn't know a thing about Starcraft).

The biggest giveaway for me was that SSBM got a #2 seed in the division. I knew Halo wasn't going to win the division, so SSBM was my first choice.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/28/2005 5:31:44 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I had LoZ:WW > SSBM...to me, it seemed like SSBM's path was close-yet-obvious (in the same sense of Tidus/Shadow) BEFORE lock-down, but then I doubted it in every match it was in after it faced MGS2. Funny how that works.

I stick by SSBM gettin' #4 on the list for now though; while it could be as early as tomorrow, I can barely imagine it any lower than #6. Don't forget that, on top of it being the best-selling Gamecube game and most well-received from our generation of games (in terms of our board's current general opinion and the 128 Division a year and a half ago), it is now also packaged with the Gamecube for all sales. Let's also consider how Nintendo impressed this year and that SSBM is the newest game that we feel is practically a lock on this list (not to mention it's had great staying power), and I just cannot see it being lower than #6 at all.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/28/2005 6:27:53 PM | Message Detail
Do you own a copy of Halo: Combat Evolved?

At 11:55 AM GameFAQs-time:
Yes, and its sequel 28.82% 8686
Yes, on the Xbox 7.85% 2365
Yes, on the PC/Mac 9.16% 2760
No, it's just not my type of game 13.86% 4176
No, I guess I just never was interested 40.31% 12147
TOTAL VOTES 30134


At 5:55 PM GameFAQs-time:
Yes, and its sequel 30.42% 15317
Yes, on the Xbox 7.71% 3880
Yes, on the PC/Mac 9.04% 4552
No, it's just not my type of game 13.38% 6737
No, I guess I just never was interested 39.46% 19867
TOTAL VOTES 50353


Between 11:55 AM and 5:55 PM GameFAQs-time:
Yes, and its sequel 32.8% 6631
Yes, on the Xbox 7.49% 1515
Yes, on the PC/Mac 8.86% 1792
No, it's just not my type of game 12.67% 2561
No, I guess I just never was interested 38.18% 7720
TOTAL VOTES 20219



The Xbox vote came in big for the top option and the bottom two; the people who weren't interested in Halo for whatever reason dropped while the people who owned both rose. However, the people who just owned Halo and not Halo 2 dropped (for both the Xbox and computer). Considerin' Halo 2 outsold Halo and the two are undoubtedly the biggest games the Xbox has to offer, not to mention they're the same series, I can understand this...though still kinda weird.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/28/2005 7:42:11 PM | Message Detail
Impressive. As of this writing, 38.43% own the X-Box version of Halo. Based on the poll from two weeks ago, 40.25% own an X-Box. That means 95% of all X-Box owners here have Halo for it. NINETY-FIVE PERCENT. There's not a single game on Earth that can compete with that (although the percentage in the actual market is closer to 25%, and more for Halo 2... does Halo 2 still beat out SM64 there BTW?)
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From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 7:50:01 PM | Message Detail
well, to be fair, what if you don't own an X-Box but like Halo? which do you choose? there's no option there.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/28/2005 7:57:12 PM | Message Detail
That's why CJay shoulda ditched that fourth option for "No, but I've played it before" like what FF3/6 got; considering Halo is the inanimate god of multi-player for so many people and FF3/6 is an RPG, I mean, come on.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:03:02 PM | Message Detail
well, now that we're into what I assume is the 11th hour before #8 is revealed, here's the results of my prediction topic:

Starcraft - 19
SM64 - 10
FF10 - 10
MGS - 7
SMW - 5
SSBM - 5
FF8 - 5
LTTP - 4
KH - 3
Mario 3 - 3
Sonic 2 - 2
WOW - 2
Metroid Prime - 1
Earthbound - 1
SOTN - 1
GTA:VC - 1
GTA:SA - 1
Super Metroid - 1
MGS3 - 1
007 - 1
SSB - 1

my thoughts: wow, I did -not- expect Starcraft to get that kind of love. it's almost like people went 'well, SC barely beat Halo, so it's gotta be next!' I would have expected SM64 to get the most votes, but that's a landslide right there for SC.

another funny thought: if we never had a game contest, would SC get more than a couple votes?
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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:04:19 PM | Message Detail
If we never had a games contest, would Final Fantasy VI get more than a couple of votes?

And I'm the only pick for Super Metroid? Bah.
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pi
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:05:00 PM | Message Detail
you are the only pick for SM out of the last two days. I was kind of surprised and hoped it would get more support, especially considering some of those choices. (SSB?)
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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:05:31 PM | Message Detail
oh, and I had FF6 winning its division..

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:09:18 PM | Message Detail
I had FFVI getting to CT, but I didn't know/remember how much of a flop Kefka was. Had I known, I would have had it lose to LttP, but winning it's four pack (MK? EB? Doom?) was pretty much assured even if you thought it was weak. If we hadn't had a games contest and all I had to go on was Kefka and Terra's matches, I definitely would have had X or VIII on my list instead of VI.
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pi
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:13:38 PM | Message Detail
my problem was underestimating Trigger - I didn't think it could compete with the Final Fantasy name. wrong, I was.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:14:12 PM | Message Detail
Well, you still had those Favorite FF polls to fall back on, where Final Fantasy VI is consistently #2, with the lone exception being shortly after FFX's release.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:15:01 PM | Message Detail
And I was one stupid mistake away from a perfect Division 16, and it didn't involve LttP, FFVI, or CT.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:16:15 PM | Message Detail
and if you want to go way back..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:17:37 PM | Message Detail
And what a glorious poll that is. And, as it said, it ended the debate forever. VI is the best.
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pi
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:18:54 PM | Message Detail
one thing drives me nuts in that poll: FF4 easytype over FF4. argh.

I wish we could get a repeat of that poll, because I don't think we've had one in a while.
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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:20:01 PM | Message Detail
Well, I'm guessing that whenever that poll was taken, emulating J2E's (I think) translation wasn't the most common thing to do.
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pi
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:21:01 PM | Message Detail
Wait a second...

...SF2 LOST ?!?!?!?!?!?



I knew the winner of CT/LoZ:LttP would get to lose to FF7, I just picked the wrong one. That was the only thing keepin' me from a perfect 16-Division.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He believes you're a sexy beast. He'd go straight to HotOrNot and give you a 10.
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:21:22 PM | Message Detail
heh, I remember that translation. it would mess up at the Tower of Bab-il; the spot where Cid catches you in the airship never triggers. sucked, that.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:34:20 PM | Message Detail
Whoa, such support for Starcraft is baffling to me. Remember, it wasn't even the most widely nominated PC game last spring. I'm guessing it wasn't even very close, considering CJayC had to include it in an incorrect division as a 16 seed.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:36:03 PM | Message Detail
Wait a second...

...SF2 LOST ?!?!?!?!?!?


And to this day, I'm still amazed at how shocked people were by that result.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: longbladeofhiko | Posted: 10/28/2005 8:37:28 PM | Message Detail
I know right? I mean, c'mon, its Nintendo, its Square, and its Mario. That combination = death. Unless it comes in contact with a Zelda Game or FF7 or something, but thats a given.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:16:56 PM | Message Detail
to this day, I'm still shocked a game that never even came out in Europe beat the most important fighting game of all time (and also my favourite). there have been bigger shocks and that's just turned into a fad, but still, that was a sad day for me.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:17:26 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, like Europe matters.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:27:21 PM | Message Detail
I mean, I figured being associated with Mario alone would make it a threat. I just figured with so many Mario games in the bracket, that people who at least liked SFII would rally for it...

Of course, I never thought about people *gasp* voting for ALL of the games in a series... ¬_¬
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:28:08 PM | Message Detail
I just figured with so many Mario games in the bracket, that people who at least liked SFII would rally for it...

Well, that was my error in Division 16 as well.

Stupid Sonic 2.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:30:42 PM | Message Detail
I'd be hard-pressed to think of a Mario game that would lose to Sonic 2. I think even SMS would beat it.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:31:45 PM | Message Detail
Why do I have a sudden urge to see The Wind Waker staring at me at #8? I mean, it technically is THE Zelda game of the generation (until TP that is...) Of course nobody expects it, but I wonder what the reaction would be if it WAS on the list?
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:32:35 PM | Message Detail
Wind Waker making the list wouldn't overly surprise me, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:34:55 PM | Message Detail
I'd be hard-pressed to think of a Mario game that would lose to Sonic 2.

How about Super Mario Land?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:35:36 PM | Message Detail
Of course nobody expects it, but I wonder what the reaction would be if it WAS on the list?

Shock. I would be absolutely ****ing shocked.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:36:01 PM | Message Detail
Symphony of the Night needs to make it after the topic I made. That would rock.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
From: transience | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:36:22 PM | Message Detail
SML vs. Sonic 2?

hm. yeah, I guess you're right.

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xyzzy
10th anniversary contest score: 1
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 10/28/2005 9:36:37 PM | Message Detail
FFVIII for #1!
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Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."
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