SSBM is my #3 game. I play it like, every day almost every year since day one. You can ask me anything.
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I got MARIOWNED by Jman_gamerX8, winner of the Guru contest.

SSBM is exceptional... for a fighting game. But overall there are quite a few games I like better. As in, around twenty or so.
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I took a test today, at the free clinic for Hepatitis. Kicked ass too, got an A, two Bs, and a C. -Rezzman

SSBM is #12 on my list. And it only recently got displaced from my top 10 this year. Impressive especially since I didn't play it nearly as much as other people on this boards (no tournament playing, 4-player parties, etc.)
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Never been in a tourney, haven't had any four-player parties in forever (at least two years, maybe three), and my disc stopped working on a regular basis for months now (which sucks; for as good of care as I have for my games, it and Halo 2 [the main reasons to own each system] no longer work right for me)...yet it still earns a legit spot in my personal top-ten list and #5 on my GameFAQs list.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

M|E|L|E|E - My anti-drug
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

I said I was gone until the next contest... remember (actually, you probably don't... very sneaky)? Heh... actually I still am mostly gone. Just as long as I don't spend hours on end here like I had been some days... I'm okay with it. Anyway, time to get to my true purpose of posting in this topic.

1 - transience
2 - UltimaterializerX
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
52 - RPGGamer0
53 - Lopen
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
-Slow Beef

The people saying that they dislike SSBM are a rare exception. That game is one of the all-time best games in terms of good aging.

But why did LTTP get such a low seed?

I think that one, Super Metroid got more nominations, and two, CJayC wanted to set up Super Metroid/LTTP. 3-6 or 4-5 were the only spots in the quadrant where that would have made sense to set up.

Chichiri: Did you get make it all the way through that dungeon with the slime and the Isis gear?

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Fire Emblem 8, Advance Wars 2, We <3 Katamari

*get TO make it

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Fire Emblem 8, Advance Wars 2, We <3 Katamari

If that's the case, it's amazing how FIVE SNES games would have been seeded ahead of the highest-seeded Genesis game.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Genesis games are pretty weak though. only the Sonic games have really stood up as classics.

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take your armour off you're not under attack

Which would have made the most-nominated Sonic game a six-seed. You could argue about the spread-out nominations, but, when you couple that idea with how Sonic 2 turned out in the contest x-stat-wise, it actually might not be all that surprising I suppose.....
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

hmm.... that said, if I were to seed the 16-bit division:

1 - CT
2 - LTTP
3 - FF6
4 - SMW
5 - Sonic 2
6 - SM

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take your armour off you're not under attack

which brings me to a thought: if you take the Halo defence (people nominated it just because they had to nominate an X-Box game), you'd think Sonic 2 or 3 would have been up there in the seedings..

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take your armour off you're not under attack

True as well, though I would think more nominations like that than your average would have been to Sonic 1 than either of the other two, and I wouldn't think the number would be near as high as what Halo was fortunate with.

Off to my first of two Spanish midterms today (damn you, foreign language classes).....
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

hmm... maybe, but if you say that then you've gotta say that five SNES titles split nominations as well.

personally, I think that an effort was made not to give Mario and Zelda games high seeds every time. that explains the 7 seed for M64 and the 6 for LTTP.

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take your armour off you're not under attack

I fully endorse the five highest-seeded SNES games splitting nominations; my point is that, if LoZ:LttP really was lowered one seed to make it face SM, the five highest-seeded games in the division DESPITE undoubtedly splitting nominations amongst each other (among the other four SNES-only and three SNES-and-others games that made it) were SNES games and still outdid the highest-seeded Genesis game (which only had three games make it in, two of which were fodder and one of which bombed). Couple that with how Sonic 2 looks in the x-stats, and perhaps it didn't bomb so much because of it facing Super Mario World but more because of its own inherent weakness.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

What if S3&K was allowed in as a single entity? Would it be a bit better, you think? I know I've seen quite a few people in the BOP pick Sonic 2 in their favorites lists because S3&K wasn't in the database as one game.
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I took a test today, at the free clinic for Hepatitis. Kicked ass too, got an A, two Bs, and a C. -Rezzman

Hoo boy, SCLegacy strikes back. Check out their front page.
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I took a test today, at the free clinic for Hepatitis. Kicked ass too, got an A, two Bs, and a C. -Rezzman

I don't think S3&K would perform that much better than Sonic 2 in a contest setting. S3&K may be technically better, but I don't think there would be a whole lot of instances where someone would vote for S3&K when they WOULDN'T vote for Sonic 2 (at least not where it would make a huge difference). I think the same could be said for the difference between Mega Man 2 & Mega Man 3, or the SNES Mega Man X games. If you vote for one, you'd likely vote for the other.

As for the nominations, I think we are putting too much stock in them overall. We don't have the exact data and don't know WHAT Ceej did as far as the seedings go. Could come back to bite some people if they take everything at face value...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

1 - transience
2 - UltimaterializerX
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
52 - RPGGamer0
53 - Lopen
54 - chocoboslayer
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You are to be executed for causing this situation. People are ignorant. They'll feel better as long as someone is punished. ~Rufus Shinra, FFVII

*Might sign up for the guru contest*
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.

http://www.alexa.com/site/site_stats/signup?site_url
=www.gamefaqs.com+www.diabloii.net+halo.bungie.org
+www.sclegacy.com&range=1y&widget=g&style=c&
submitted=true&mode=graph&range=3m&amzn_id=

Put them together, and you'll see that it's not near as popular as either Diablo's or Master Chief's sites that are notorious for linking. Furthermore, it's asking people to fill out two different lists (and sign up if they're new), whereas DiabloII and HBO were merely asking for three clicks of your time.

I ain't gonna discount it though; if another Blizzard-fanbased site or two links up (doesn't matter if it's Starcraft, Diablo 2, or World of Warcraft), I may start to reconsider my list. 'Til then though, that site alone doesn't scare me.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

I got one of the Iris treasures, then I decided it was time to beat the game so I never went back. Usually if I don't get myself to beat an rpg in a certain amount of time it goes to the wayside, no matter how good it is, and such a lengthy distraction would cause that to happen. Same thing happened to me with FFT, I was so engaged in the practice of having all jobs maxed out (because I could, of course) that I only barely got to chapter 4 and didn't play again for a logn time. By then I no longer had the memory card my old game was on...
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Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

Hoo boy, SCLegacy strikes back. Check out their front page.

Um...who wants to put StarCraft in their Top 10 that hasn't already?
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So, if someone says "Who are The Patriots?" people will be able to answer "Oakland"? ~paperwarrior
Jman_gamerX8 + me + Guru Contest = PWNED!

Those who haven't entered yet.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Heh. Hey, keeping StarCraft in the Top 10 wasn't that bad an idea then!

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Wildness borne of a violent rage, for the sake of what is important to him, this boy calls upon the beast : Uzumaki Naruto

That site is nothing of the size of either site that helped Diablo or MC (...or Arbiter, ahem) on multiple occasions though, and it asks for alot more time (and potentially signing up as well). The only plus-side going for it is that it's got two weeks to be up and gathering, but I would think it'd be pretty weak and front-loaded as far as support from that linkage. Now, if another one or two fansites do this, especially larger ones like DiabloII -- for any of the big three of Blizzard's games -- I won't be afraid to change my #10 (I'd take MGS for probably Diablo 2, saving for multiple sites being from SC/WoW).

If DiabloII was to link here, that would do alot more damage; it's noticably bigger, and it's linked to four previous Diablo matches; their base is more familiar with GameFAQs and are more likely to already have accounts (though anything but guaranteed). THAT, to me, would confirm a Blizzard game would make the list, though not necessarily Diablo 2.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

it's a lot more work to make an account, make a favourites list and and a top 10 overall list than it is to simply vote. I'm really not sure how much effect that's going to have.. though Starcraft is certainly a contender for the top 10 now.

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take your armour off you're not under attack

Was it ever not? There's a good 25 games with a shot at making the list, and Starcraft is among them.
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I took a test today, at the free clinic for Hepatitis. Kicked ass too, got an A, two Bs, and a C. -Rezzman

I don't think SClegacy is that popular anyway. If this was on, say, GosuGamers, than I'd be worried.

Although, why anyone would think Starcraft wasn't a contendor to begin with is beyond me. It's obviously the most popular PC game (or damn close to it) as far as open-ended nominations go.
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MasterMage119/Adept Of Aiur

I still don't consider SC to be in real contention for a top 10 slot.
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Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

it's a contender, but more of a darkhorse. the BOP should line up with that. it went from being about #20 in my mind to #11 or #12.

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take your armour off you're not under attack

Hmm, is it just me, or is the scoring system not exactly clear? If a game places Xth and you guessed that it would place Yth, you obviously get abs(X - Y) points, but what if you didn't pick that game to be in the top 10? I would *guess* that you would get 10 points, but it might be more.

This case is mentioned nowhere in the official rules. In fact, I read all of the fine print, and in the 'official' official rules, it says:

Contest winners will be selected via the method outlined in the description on http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/sum05.html from among all eligible entries received.

That link points to the wrong contest, and even if it pointed to the right contest (http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10.html), it still doesn't contain the exact scoring method.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

If the game makes the top 10 and you don't have it there it does nothing. It's all about how far away your answers are from the final result. Say you have:

FF7
OoT
CT
SSBM
Mario 3
LttP
Halo
SC
GTA VC
Katamari Damacy

and they actually rank:
1
2
3
5
4
6
10
14
23
87

You get 1 point for melee being one off, 1 for smb3 being one off, 3 for Halo, 6 for SC, 14 for VC and 77 for Katamari. Your score is then a total of 102.
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Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

So like I said before, Chichiri's explanation would mean that there will have to be a Master List of all the games chosen so that they can be properly ranked... unless Ceej will only bother to give the top 10 entries scores and forget about all the rest of the entries...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

if that's so and we don't get the list, we'll have to do some major comparing to figure out what placed where..

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ice age coming ice age coming

Now that I think about it though, I don't see why Ceej wouldn't place all of the listed games in user favorites list in a Master Ranking, unless he's just extremely lazy. It doesn't take much to do. Hell, Slowflake is doing a damn good job of it with the BOP. Now whether or not he decides to disclose the list is a different story, although it wouldn't be too hard to figure out where each game ranked by comparing lists and scores.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

It's the same scoring system that was used in past 4 Top Ten Contests (Top Ten FAQs of '99-'02), which is making me hopeful that we're going to get to see a Top 100 listing after it's all said and done, as we did for those. HOWEVER, even if he doesn't officially release anything beyond 10, we should be able to piece together most of the Top 25 or so, just based on Guru results. (If someone gets 9/10 games, we'll be able to tell what place that incorrect game ended up, etc.)

And I definitely wouldn't discount that sclegacy posting... True, HBO and diabloii draw more traffic, but don't forget that it will only take a fraction of all that potential traffic to have a huge impact here. Instead of swinging the trends on a poll that's going to draw 100,000 votes, we're talking about changing a voting trend on something that only 10,000 or so are going to have their say on. A few hundred new #1 rankings for a game could potentially make all the difference.

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the-elite.net congratulates Jman, Guru Contest Champ!
Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/

I don't tihnk it'll draw that many, really. It takes effort most people don't want to put forth to do that sort of thing.
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Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

Yeah, the breaker is that you have to be a registered user anyways. How many people are gonna go through all of that trouble?
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I'd be surprised if it'd be enough to move SC up a spot from where it'd have gotten otherwise, not that we'll ever know that.
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Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

I would also like to enter the guru contest.It will be funny to have a guy that will have all predictions wrong.Anyway here is my top 10 also:
1)FFVII
2)Ocarina Of Time
3)A Link To The Past
4)CT
5)SSBM
6)SMB3
7)Halo:Combat Evolved
8)Starcraft
9)KH
10)Diablo II

I think the first 6 are a lock,not in this order though.The other 4,well it was somewhat random.
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~

I still don't think Starcraft will make top ten, but I've been wrong before.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Fire Emblem 8, Advance Wars 2, We <3 Katamari

1 - transience
2 - UltimaterializerX
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
52 - RPGGamer0
53 - Lopen
54 - chocoboslayer
55 - expaniol
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Got crushed between Jman_gamerX8, at the top of Guru leaderboard, and ground.

1 - transience
2 - UltimaterializerX
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
52 - RPGGamer0
53 - Lopen
54 - chocoboslayer
55 - expaniol
56 - FastFalcon05

hey, everyone, I know I haven't been posting as much (not that you've all noticed, >_> ) but I"m still here. College apps are just so much fun...

And just to throw my two cents in, I don't think
Starcraft will be Top Ten either.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
Crushed by Jman_gamerX8 as badly as Link beat Cloud.

Hmm, that scoring system makes sense.

I agree, I doubt that StarCraft will make the top 10. While it is a great game, and it certainly deserves to be in the top 10, it won't be on the top of peoples' lists. It may ring in in the 7-10 range, but that won't be enough. There are too many users whose top 10 lists are filled with RPGs/adventures/platformers/shooters.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

My lists:

GameFAQs Top 10:

1. FFVII
2. OoT
3. Chrono Trigger
4. LttP
5. SSBM
6. Super Mario Bros 3
7. StarCraft
8. Super Metroid
9. Metal Gear Solid
10. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

MY Top 10:

1. Star Fox 64
2. OoT
3. Fire Emblem
4. Sonic & Knuckles
5. Sonic 3 (yes, I put both parts on the list)
6. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
7. SSBM
8. Mario Kart 64
9. Super Mario World
10. Metroid Prime
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"Your inane hipster slang is an affront to my ears and a waste of my time." - Von Bolt after being yelled at by Jake

There are people in this topic who are very good with computers. Does anyone know how to search through a cache in Firefox? I need to fish something out from within it, but I don't know where to look.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Fire Emblem 8, Advance Wars 2, We <3 Katamari

Type about:cache into Firefox (had to Google a bit to find it).
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Jman_gamerX8 hath verily pwned me.

1 - transience
2 - UltimaterializerX
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
52 - RPGGamer0
53 - Lopen
54 - chocoboslayer
55 - expaniol
56 - FastFalcon05
57 - Vortex268

I have a strange feeling that either MGS or Super Metroid might sneak into the top 10, though I'm not sure.