I changed the last spot on my list from FFX to Super Mario 64. I was debating between SM64 and FFVIII, but in the end, I decided to put more faith in the plumber.
---
Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

considering the so-called Nintendo boost, I'd take the Nintendo game over the Square game in the event of a tossup.
---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

I don't think past contest boosts really apply in this case, as those have much more to do with casuals and new visitors, neither one of which having a very prominent voice in this one.
---
Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

well, I've always seen the boards as being pro-Nintendo. granted, I don't hit too many other social boards, but it sure seems that way.

---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

Yeah, it being a write-in has completely screwed it. If it wasn't though, I'd probably put it at #5 (I have Halo at #6, currently).
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Hmmmm... I'm now wondering if most people that would write-in Halo 2 would also add Halo to the list... If that's true, then Halo would be the higher ranked one by default due to Halo 2 being a write-in.

But then there is the issue of if Halo 2 is ranked higher and by how much... So I think it cancels out. :-/
---
*Is therealmnm*
Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5

I'd actually expect Halo to outrank Halo 2 if they were both listed. Added to that, I cannot possibly see either one of them as high as harrich does. Frankly, if Halo would have had any competition for its slot I think it'd have missed the 1 seed. Hell, if couldn't even beat a game that I don't think would make better than a 5 seed now... it'll get some heavy support that will drop off rather quickly, it doesn't have the ability to reach the depths (games like LttP won't always be number one, but when there's a top ten list its not often forgotten either) as far as I can tell. On GF it's love it or hate it and very little inbetween.
---
Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

see, I think love/hate games will do best in a top 10 environment. it doesn't suffer from anti-votes, basically, and there's a huge population of people who think Halo is the best game ever. it's also why I think LTTP might get shafted - I rarely see anyone say LTTP is their favourite game as compared to CT or SMB3 or OOT or whatever.
---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

I didn't consider seeding when thinkin' about Halo...at all. You're right though; throw a game on the level of even Super Mario Sunshine on the Xbox, and I imagine it would have had to fight tooth and nail not to lose its 1-seed to SSBM. I'm also siding with tran here about how love/hate games stand the best chance at Top Ten lists (which really makes me rethink snubbing MGS2 for MGS), as long as it's popular and their love and hate are of comparable levels (the debatable part). For as high as it ranked in the Game Contest though, even assuming alot of unsolved controversy like Starcraft over-performing and such, and for all the talk that Halo 1/2 is (as well as Halo 1 is, for whatever reason, an easy substitute for Halo 2), not to mention a large portion of the Xbox fanbase is undoubtedly going to be behind it (while the smallest of the three bases of systems, there's not many other games to rally behind for the system outside of the Halo's), and I think it's gonna be hard to keep Halo off the Top Ten list.

Gone to bed, g-nite.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Yeah, but scraping together 1-3 points evertime someone thinks "oh yeah, can't forget ____" adds up. Sure, it doesn't automatically make you top 10 material, but when the game is obviously already amoung the top 20 in raw "best game ever" considerations those will add up to a much better ranking inthe end. Seriously, I'd bet money that LttP makes more top tens than Halo and Halo 2 combined, and that's considering that many people who have one will have both. When as many of those are upper 5 as lower 5 you can bet it's a top ten game.
---
Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

No discussion about today's match? Surely Microsoft acting like Tanner is worth some note.

Haha, j/k.
---
=P-L= "It's not a secret board, it's an isolationist colony." - SilverbananaX
Ifnkovhgroghprm for SC2k6

I rarely see anyone say LTTP is their favourite game as compared to CT or SMB3 or OOT or whatever.

*ahem*
---
MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

LTTP is my favorite game too. Hell, outside of FFVII and OoT its the most common favorite game I see people having.
---
Jman_gamerX8 is sexier, funnier, and all around better guy than I am, because he won the Summer 2005 Guru Contest.

Yeah...LttP is my favorite game as well, and my cousin's too. There are plenty of people who love LttP.
---
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Char, I'm guessing your GC games are SSBM and...Metroid Prime? I'm also guessing your three N64 games are LoZ:OoT, SM64, and...Goldeneye?

The second GC game was Resident Evil 4 (but it's also getting released on the PS2)
---
Congrats to Jman_gamerX8 for winning the Guru Contest.

No discussion about today's match? Surely Microsoft acting like Tanner is worth some note.

Are you surprised? Xbox only came out this generation.
---
Congrats to Jman_gamerX8 for winning the Guru Contest.

Almost all my friends has Lttp as their favourite game. I don't understand why I picked both FFVI and CT over it in the spring contest. I think Lttp is a bigger lock in the gamefaqs top 10 then say... SSBM

No discussion about today's match? Surely Microsoft acting like Tanner is worth some note.

I've been waitin' on commenting until after the day-vote swings by; that might explain some strength that the Xbox voters have and why they're the way they are, heh.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

I had LoZ:LttP gettin' to the championship and losing to FF7 in the Game Contest, and that burnt be badly in a great match (I felt like Master Mage after MC/Frog, except alot more was on the line). Perhaps that's part of the reason why I didn't initially give it more credit in this list, and I just don't know it yet...?

Nah.....
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - transience
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
---
Summer Contest 2k5 Guru Challenge Winner: Jman_gamerX8

LttP is my favorite game, as well...
---
pi

the seedings in the game contest should give some kind of indication. at any rate it shows that starcraft might have problems making the top 10 thanks to the diablo/warcraft series
---
Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

On the contrary, seedings are the worst thing ever. Starcraft had to compete with every PC game made, EVER, to get a 16-seed, and yet it has a realistic shot at the top 10. Meanwhile, Phantasy Star had a 5-seed, and it's not going anywhere. Not to mention Tetris.
---
I took a test today, at the free clinic for Hepatitis. Kicked ass too, got an A, two Bs, and a C. -Rezzman

As long as you take the seeding along with the context though, it's not all that bad. We know just because Halo got a one-seed that doesn't mean **** (though many/most of us still expect big things from it, just not for reasons involving its seed). Likewise, as I've recently come to decide, LoZ:LttP being a six-seed likely isn't going to hurt it in this contest. However, there's no doubt in my mind that seeding can be a decent guide with the right context.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

LttP is my third most favorite game ever, which means its damn good.
---
So, if someone says "Who are The Patriots?" people will be able to answer "Oakland"? ~paperwarrior
Jman_gamerX8 + me + Guru Contest = PWNED!

I still don't think Starcraft has a real shot at top 10, though. There's no rallying going on here, everyone votes based on their preference, and even with hardcore rallying Kerrigan only made the equivalent of an 8 seed (likely 9th if you put clinkeroth back in the mix). I don't think the difference between unrallied SC and rallied Kerrigan is that huge. SC might make top 20, as it's like Halo (going to recieve a lot of 1s and a hell of a lot of people won't have it at all) in that it hasn't got depth but it's not as fresh as Halo.
---
Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

I don't know if this has been directly asked before, but if it has, I'll ask again:

Super Mario World or Super Mario 64?

Lesse...they've both had rereleases, but Mario 64 had the most recent release, and it was a launch game for Nintendo DS, which was also after Sp2K4. Advantage: Mario 64

In SpC2K4, Super Mario World got a 4-seed while Mario 64 got a 7-seed. There are more strong 16-bit games than there are 32-bit games; heck, Super Mario World beat Zelda: LttP, while Mario 64 was beaten by Perfect Dark in terms of nominations. The only thing to wonder is...did CJayC mess with the seedings? No idea. Well, anyway...advantage: SMW

Which one's stronger? No idea...SM64 would've needed to be SFFed pretty hard to be stronger than SMW. Yet, I could see Mario 64 beating SMW's 41% against CT...

I have Super Mario 64 for now...who knows, maybe both could make it? But...I have a certain 8 that I refuse to move, and I just don't know if the next two in line could be two Mario games. :P

---
Jman_gamerX8 defeated me! Let's par-TAY! *distributes cake and punch to everybody*

I knew that when I made the "I rarely see LTTP as someone's favourite game ever", that a bunch of people would suddenly emerge out of the woodwork. I like LTTP, and it's probably my favourite Zelda, but I don't think it's near my top 10.

my Mario rankings go 3 > 64 > World >= 1. just a gut feeling.
---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

*waits for HaRRicH to talk about the infamous Microsoft day vote in today's poll*
---
Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

I called a minimum of 2% last night for Microsoft. oops.

---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

Bah, I missed perfect noon; we're just gonna have to work with, what, 40 Microsoft-votes we missed in thirty-five minutes?


What company made the first video game system you ever owned?

At 12:35 PM GameFAQS-time:
Atari 18.54% 8881
Microsoft 0.9% 431
Nintendo 58.29% 27920
Sega 12.29% 5886
Sony 4.5% 2154
Other 5.48% 2625
TOTAL VOTES 47897

At 7:00 PM GameFAQs-time:
Atari 18.02% 13767
Microsoft 0.85% 653
Nintendo 59.69% 45606
Sega 12.08% 9232
Sony 4.35% 3325
Other 5.01% 3826
TOTAL VOTES 76409

Between 12:35 PM and 7:00 PM GameFAQs-time:
Atari 17.14% 4886
Microsoft 0.78% 222
Nintendo 62.03% 17686
Sega 11.74% 3346
Sony 4.11% 1171
Other 4.21% 1201
TOTAL VOTES 28512


For Microsoft to be as great with the day-vote as it normally is and for as much as many of us would like to think our relatively-small Xbox-owner demographic only cares about the Xbox, it only got 222 votes in about 6 1/2 hours. I'm not really sure what to make of it, myself, though I'm curious how many Xbox owners had a PS2 for their first system...but, for what it's worth, all the companies but Nintendo (even Sega) went down with the day-vote as well. For the raping DK took against MC in the day-vote, Nintendo returned the favor in a fashion I would expect from a Link/Spark 343 match.


*waits for HaRRicH to talk about the infamous Microsoft day vote in today's poll*

Ask and ye shall receive.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Guys, this isn't a preference poll, it's a fact poll.
---
MasterMage119/Adept Of Aiur

Maybe so, but think about how much more popular Xbox is in America than anywhere else in the world (except maybe Europe? Not sure on that one). As far as GameFAQs-visitors go, you would still think there'd be more than THAT in the dominantly-American hours of the poll when we saw how pathetic the earlier hours have already proven to be. Fact or preference, it's shocking. You can't really say disappointing from anybody's case, but it's still surprising to see.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Maybe so, but think about how much more popular Xbox is in America than anywhere else in the world (except maybe Europe? Not sure on that one). As far as GameFAQs-visitors go, you would still think there'd be more than THAT in the dominantly-American hours of the poll when we saw how pathetic the earlier hours have already proven to be. Fact or preference, it's shocking. You can't really say disappointing from anybody's case, but it's still surprising to see.

I'd think most XBox lovers started with Playstation.
---
MasterMage119/Adept Of Aiur

I'm curious how many Xbox owners had a PS2 for their first system

I acknowledged something along those lines already, and I can believe alot of them had a Playstation system first.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Plus, it's not even lovers so much as owners. Facts and not preferences, remember? =P
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

the result isn't surprising, it's how bad the result is. I thought at least a couple percent had an xbox first.

that said, take that poll in five years and I bet Microsoft does better. most people start playing video games at a young age and I wouldn't expect too many 6 year olds to be voting.
---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

not to mention that the X-Box is not even remotely kid-friendly. i mean, can you name 10 X-Box games that are rated "E"; not counting sports and racing games? the X-Box was a system bought by mature gamers, which are obviously people who have played video games before.

---
Jman_gamerX8 - i had no idea who this guy was until he whomped us all in the Guru Contest.

Despite all the controversy surrounding game content recently I'd be willing to bet that the average 14-15 year old's parents will still buy them games like GTA and Halo. I've seen it happen before in Gamestop and I don't even work there, that's just how common it is. Guidelines are guidelines, and many parents will get there kids games a couple years beyond the "appropriate" age.
---
Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

W.o.w. T.h.i.s. t.o.p.i.c. i.s. s.l.o.w.

No problem keeping up now when I go out of town!

As for XBox, I'm not surprised at all at those results. I doubt many new gamers begin with XBox unless it was just a surprise buy from their parents or something.

With all the mainstream advertisement that XBox 360 is getting (MTV, Mountain Dew, etc.), I wouldn't be surprised if more people started off with the XBox 360 than the XBox. Although we wouldn't be finding out on GameFAQs anytime soon...
---
MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Yeah, the 360 will be better for that than the Xbox, but it's not gonna be hard to outdo that lil' stat.
---
Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.

Hmm, new contest. Interesting. My top 4 games are pretty much locked in stone, but after that there's like 10 that I love but have a hard time ranking. After the dust settled, here's what it came out to:

1. Final Fantasy VI
2. Final Fantasy IV
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Final Fantasy VII

5. Super Smash Bros. Melee
6. Mega Man X
7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
8. Super Mario 64
9. StarCraft
10. Tetris

Honorable mentions: FFVIII, MGS, Blast Corps, Sonic 3 & Knuckles (though that wouldn't be eligible anyways), Banjo-Kazooie

And here's how I think GameFAQs will turn out:

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Super Smash Bros. Melee
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Final Fantasy VI
6. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
7. Super Mario Bros. 3
8. Final Fantasy X
9. Super Mario 64
10. Halo: Combat Evolved

My reasoning: FFVII wins easily. This contest is different from past contests in that a game that is loved by many but hated by many will do far better than a game that is generally well liked by everyone, but not one of their all-time favorites. Pretty much every game on that last falls into that category, with two exceptions: SSBM and Halo. FFVII, CT and LttP, and FFVI, OoT, SMB3, FFX and SM64 to an increasingly lesser extent, boast tons of fans on GameFAQs that hail them as one of top 3-4 games of all time (see: me). This will earn them tons of points. Even if they are #32,767 on XBox Fanboy #31415's all-time list, it doesn't hurt them squat.

Now, onto SSBM and Halo. SSBM is the GameCube game. If you have a GameCube, you have SSBM. And I don't know a single GameCube owner who doesn't love it. While I don't think too many people have it occupying one of the top slots, I can fathom that enough people will have it somewhere on their list, and that adds up to a lot of points. Perhaps not enough to displace CT, but it can definitely get up there.

Halo is an entirely different beast from SSBM. Until Halo 2 came out, it was the XBox game, but that's about where the parallels end. I've never played either Halo, but from I can gather, the second seems to be more popular than the first, but there are still plenty of people who like the first better (but please correct me if I am wrong).

The first issue is that Halo 2 was not in the dropdown list, causing unintelligent or lazy users not to put it on their favorites list. This will severely hurt Halo 2, but Halo will only benefit an immeasurable amount - the only way it would substantially boost Halo is if there were users who were originally only going to nominate (for lack of a better word) Halo 2, but because it wasn't on the list, nominated Halo instead. I would imagine that most fans of the series would nominate both games, so dropping Halo 2 would only cause Halo to gain one rank/point at best.

Now, getting back to why I have Halo in the 10 slot instead of another Squintendo game. I'm betting that most XBox owners will have it in their top 3-4, which will earn it a good amount of points. However, as we all know, the percentage of XBox owners on GameFAQs is significantly smaller than that of PS2 or GameCube owners. This, coupled with the fact that many XBox fans also enjoy the FF, Mario, and LoZ series, leads to Halo not doing exceptionally, but well enough to beat all of the non-top-notch Squintendo games.

Wow, that was a long writeup. I'll discuss my choices more some time in the future.
---
For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Oh, and:

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - transience
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
---
For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

And I don't know a single GameCube owner who doesn't love it.

*raises hand* SSBM is my least favorite game.
---
SC2K5 and SpC2K5 First Vote Champion
Jman_gamerX8 kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - transience
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
---
This signature now property of Jman_gamerX8, who owned my ass in the Guru contest.

Yeha, I don't have much lovin for the Melee. Hell, I couldn't stand playing long enough to unlock MewTwo on my own.
---
Jman_gamerX8 teamed up with Mario to kick my ass!

1 - transience
2 - UltimaterializerX
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
5 - Sephirot1
6 - lettuce Kefka
7 - Mac Arrowny
8 - Tai
9 - DomaDragoon
10- TNote
11- dethfdddddh
12- Tediz247
13- HaRRicH
14- Ed Bellis
15- yoblazer33
16- Janus5000
17- Dranze
18- charmander6000
19- red sox 777
20- meche313
21- Yesmar
22- MegatokyoED
23- Abomstarrunner
24- Weird Kirby Dude11
25- Tirofog
26- fastpawn
27- arkenaga
28- SephirothG
29- swirldude
30 - Explicit Content
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - ChichiriMuyo
33 - XxSoulxX
34 - BigKevinm84
35 - cyko
36- Jman_gamerX8
37 - Kaxon
38 - Mithrandir1331
39 - outback
40 - Silverflame
41 - jonthomson
42 - Applekidjosh
43 - voltch
44 - Phediuk
45 - Shivan Reincarnated
46 - NewLib
47 - Prometheus321
48 - Draco1214
49 - rpgapzx
50 - Aprosenf
51 - Gr8CyberMonkey
52 - RPGGamer0


~RPGGamer~

I perfer Halo to Halo 2.
---
Welcome to Moonside. Wecomel to Soonmide. Moonwel ot cosidme

I find Melee to be a somewhat enjoyable game that I never care to play. I wouldn't put it in my top 50, I know that much.

---
metroid: zero mission - 28:50

I like Super Smash Brothers Melee and I absolutely adored it when it first came out, but it really lost its luster over the years.
---
Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."