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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 267.
From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:29:55 PM | Message Detail
...what the hell? I come home to this weird contest?

I haven't read anything, but I don't see Halo 2 on there and that worries me. I'm also rather mad at some of the snubs. only three of my top 10 make the list, getting sacrificed for stuff like Adventure.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:32:53 PM | Message Detail
The Worst Top Ten Ever (AKA Ulti's Entry):

1 - Final Fantasy 7
2 - Ocarina of Time
3 - Halo
4 - SSBM
5 - San Andreas
6 - Halo 2
7 - Chrono Trigger
8 - Mario 3
9 - LTTP
10 - Final Fantasy X

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From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:36:26 PM | Message Detail
heh, mega man got snubbed again.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:37:37 PM | Message Detail
1-FF7
2-CT
3-LoZ:OoT
4-SSBM
5-SMB3
6-Halo
7-SM64
8-FF3/6
9-MGS
10-Diablo 2

My bottom three worry me the most, especially Diablo 2 and FF3/6.
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From: MnMZero | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:38:15 PM | Message Detail
You damn copycat!!!! j/k Add in SM64 and take out Halo and you pretty much have my list, although in a different order. Of course, having a very similar list to the winner of the Best.Game.Ever. contest can't hurt. <_<
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:39:45 PM | Message Detail
Blah, this is hard...only 10 games? FF7, OoT, and CT are locks...I can't guarantee any others. SMB3 and FF6, most likely...probably LttP and SSBM...

I wonder how the next gen games will do...that won't be easy.

Could a GTA game make it? If any's capable of making it, it'd be GTA:SA as it's fresh on people's minds. Of course, that's not to say that GTA:VC could more votes...however, I REALLY doubt GTA:VC would make the Top 10.

As for Halo 2...it's not on the stupid list. I figure too many people will be too lazy...so I guess it's safe to say that it won't make it. HOWEVER...Halo 1 might actually steal some of Halo 2's votes, as it's the only Halo game on the list. So, I think Halo has quite a good shot of making the list.

I can't count out WoW, either...it's rather new, and it's insanely popular. I'd expect WoW to make the list before Starcraft.

SSBM will PROBABLY make it...after all, SSB will be virtually no competition for it, and almost -every- GC owner has SSBM. It seems like I don't see it TOP very many favorites lists, which is the only thing that's a minor concern.

Could FFX make it? Personally, I'd pick FF6 to make the list before FFX (or FF8)...so, I'd have to guess that it won't. Kingdom Hearts might have a slight shot, come to think of it, since it IS one of the few popular games that doesn't have any sequels to compete it.

I'll say right now that I'll be shocked to see any MGS game get on the list...there's just much competition within its own series, this generation, and Nintendo/Square.

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:39:48 PM | Message Detail
1. FFVII
2. OoT
3. CT
4. SSBM
5. SMB3
6. LttP
7. FFVI
8. FFX
9. KH
10. MP

Prime and FFX worry me the most out of those.
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Jman_gamerX8 has owned us with his sexy plumber bracket.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:40:55 PM | Message Detail
The total of all of the points you score determines your final score, and the 10 users with the lowest scores will win prizes:

The ten highest scoring entries will be awarded the listed prizes.

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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:44:17 PM | Message Detail
You know, maybe it's just the paranoia and popcorn talking, but I can't help but think that Ceej has some ulterior motive for this. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that we're having another anniversary contest, and I love the premise for this one. It's just... I think it's a little too close to a BGE contest to be mere coincidence.

It would certainly make it easier on Ceej to have the bracket become the top 64 scoring games. And if that's not his focus, I'd really hope to see a top 100 list.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:45:01 PM | Message Detail
here's my current entry, which is sure to change in about two minutes:

1. FF7
2. OOT
3. Halo
4. SSBM
5. CT
6. SMB3
7. SM64
8. LTTP
9. MGS
10. FF6

I'm already considering bumping CT higher up the list. this is totally different from the usual contests because casual games are not going to do as well. they're going to be games with big fanbases that feel they're the best game ever.

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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:46:26 PM | Message Detail
anyone have a good guess at the tiebreaker? I have literally no idea what to put there.
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From: Bocase | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:47:09 PM | Message Detail
Once again another contest I have no chance at losing ;_;, but at least I don't have to wait as long to see who won.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:47:42 PM | Message Detail
I have 21 as my tiebreaker.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:49:15 PM | Message Detail
I can't believe 1 in 5 people think FF7 is the best game ever. that's really high.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:50:24 PM | Message Detail
Considering it won the Game Contest, is the foundation of this site, and recently had FF:AC to bring it back up to attention, I wouldn't be so surprised.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:50:40 PM | Message Detail
On this site, I'd believe it. Though it seemed a bit high.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:50:42 PM | Message Detail
Tentative list that I'm feeling totally unconfident about:

1)FF7
2)Zelda:OoT
3)CT
4)SSBM
5)SMB3
6)Halo
7)FF6
8)WoW
9)Super Mario 64
10)Zelda: LttP

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From: Bocase | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:50:43 PM | Message Detail
Oops of course I meant winning. Guess I've been thinking about losing this contest too much :/
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:50:49 PM | Message Detail
This is 1 in 5 people on GameFAQs though. Think about it.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:51:16 PM | Message Detail
I can't believe 1 in 5 people think FF7 is the best game ever. that's really high.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1664

If anything, your estimate is low.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:53:56 PM | Message Detail
if you wanna put 28%, feel free. this is a different kind of contest, one where only the entries count. the casual votes don't exist. I'd put it at something like 13-15%.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:54:16 PM | Message Detail
Are we going to be having a Guru contest for this? I'd like to see a list started soon if there is (lookin' at you, Ulti/Ngamer).
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:55:31 PM | Message Detail
My Current List:

1. FFVII
2. OOT
3. CT
4. SMB3
5. SSB:M
6. Halo
7. GTA: SA
8. FFVI
9. Starcraft
10. WOW

I lost complete faith in LTTP. I really doubt it'll make the list.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 10:56:40 PM | Message Detail
Looking at entries only, FF7 still got a one-seed (on a system that had more respresentation than any other system in its division, no less). It had enough entries there to back it up, so that doesn't worry me much.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:08:34 PM | Message Detail
http://microsites.ign.com/kfc/top99games/10.html

Just because I thought it might be interesting. Recent games could turn out to be quite the force.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:13:13 PM | Message Detail
Ah, that is a thought to consider.

Anybody got a link to Holy Excalibur's Top 100 Games/Characters lists according to this board?
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:15:00 PM | Message Detail
a thought: is it safe to assume that Summer Contest bracketmakers will be the ones filling out their top tens? if so, we could probably look at the prediction percentages and guess who's going to do well..

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:26:01 PM | Message Detail
Holy Excalibur's Top games project link:

http://www.freewebs.com/board8
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:30:44 PM | Message Detail
It'd probably be somewhat safe to see how many people predict certain games to be on the list, but that's it...the only game-related contest we've had was a year and a half ago. While those stats probably aren't COMPLETELY useless now, that's more time than even before (the biggest gap between same-themed contests has been about ten months), plus you have to factor in the new voter pool we have that's come along since last year and that this isn't the same kind of game contest as what we had in April/May of 2k4.

I wouldn't trust it much.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:37:29 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and since you said summer predictors...you would then need to make conversions from characters to games, which could be dangerous if you're wanting to pull that card out. I doubt LoZ:OoT, CT, or Sonic 2 should be the favorite over FF7 (though I wouldn't rule out LoZ:OoT).
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:42:37 PM | Message Detail
yeah, I knew someone would call me on the games->characters thing. what I was thinking is how Kefka always does great with the bracketeers and how MC and Crono had the same prediction percentage for their match.

obviously, not everyone's bracket is a favourites bracket.. just something to think about.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:45:23 PM | Message Detail
What's interesting this time is that, while there probably still will be, there really shouldn't be any favorites-brackets this time. There's a separate list for it this time, so there should be even less than usual (though it won't be none due to some people still being dumb).

Just an observation.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: transience | Posted: 10/7/2005 11:50:36 PM | Message Detail
heh, idiotic thought I had earlier:

"so much for zero brackets!"

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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/8/2005 12:03:34 AM | Message Detail
Some FACT or FICTION, for those interested: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=23953574

Gone to bed, g-nite ya'll.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/8/2005 12:11:01 AM | Message Detail
Wow, another Contest already! And I love this idea... it's no replacement for a second Great Game Contest, of course, but should be fun to predict/follow along with nonetheless.

And yes, I would be more than willing to run a "Guru Contest" for this Top Ten. Though essentially there wouldn't be much more to it than the sig bet aspect... no leaderboard or updates or any of that. But that's fine by me.

Ulti, feel free to get the signups going whenever you get the urge.

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From: transience | Posted: 10/8/2005 12:27:05 AM | Message Detail
I can start a list if you like:

1 - transience

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/8/2005 12:37:03 AM | Message Detail
Oh, also, I just finished creating a listing of the most-nominated games from our last Game Contest. Needs to be taken with a grain of salt (or three), of course, but here it is.

Spring '04's Top 25 Nominations

1 FF7
2 Ocarina
3 Mario 3
4 Chrono Trigger
5 Halo
6 Melee
7 FF3/6
8 Goldeneye
9 Super Metroid
10 Tetris
11 Metal Gear Solid
12 FFX
13 Zelda 1
14 Mario World
15 Metroid Prime
16 FF Tactics
17 Sonic 2
18 LttP
19 Wind Waker
20 Perfect Dark
21 Mario 64
22 Vice City
23 Earthbound
24 Final Fantasy
25 Mario RPG


Problems: Firstly, were the seedings even accurate as to total nominations? Personally, I think that they are, but others have argued that CJay must have messed with them in places in an attempt to create matchups (like boosting PD up so it would have a shot at GE in the second round). Even assuming the first point to be moot, these ranks remain impossible to determine because of what must have been a wide discrepancy between the eras, in terms of what a seed was worth. If you think being 5th or 6th in 8 Bit is just as impressive as doing the same in 128 land, you've got another thing coming. I tried to account for this in my 25, but we'll never know how successful I was.

And finally, even a perfect Top 25 wouldn't be all that useful, because you have to remember that these picks were submitted under an entirely different (and entirely horrible, incidentally) nom system, with that one game per system cap. But is an old nomination listing more useful than an old X-stats listing, given that the group who nominates has vastly different tastes than the group that votes in polls? (As SC's 16 seed and LttP's 6 seed can attest to.)

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From: WiggumFan267 | Posted: 10/8/2005 12:38:46 AM | Message Detail
Obligatory post in 267th topic. >_>


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COMMENTS COMMENTS COMMENTS
From: WiggumFan267 | Posted: 10/8/2005 12:40:00 AM | Message Detail
And shouldn't Starcraft be > Halo??


and Halo 2 > Halo.


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From: jonthomson | Posted: 10/8/2005 2:55:59 AM | Message Detail
My entry:

1 - FF7
2 - SSBM
3 - CT
4 - OoT
5 - SMB3
6 - Starcraft
7 - LttP
8 - GTA: SA
9 - Halo 2
10 - MGS

You never know. A mix of classics and popular new stuff can't go wrong.

My actual top 10 as entered:

1 - Super Metroid
2 - SMB3
3 - Metroid Prime
4 - Elite
5 - Ikaruga
6 - SF2 lost?
7 - Contra
8 - Mega Man 2
9 - Tetris
10 - Doom
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From: Dranze | Posted: 10/8/2005 3:09:59 AM | Message Detail
This is just teasing me for a game contest now.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 10/8/2005 3:13:20 AM | Message Detail
Come to think about it, I recall the top 100 games list I did on Newgrounds, where Vice City was higher than San Andreas, and Goldeneye won everything. If the average GameFAQs user was slightly different, I'd stick in Goldeneye as an upset special. And putting in VC instead of SA is tempting.
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Jon Thomson - inferior to Jman_gamerX8. Pesky Crono.
From: Smurf87 | Posted: 10/8/2005 3:16:35 AM | Message Detail
Ugh... I sure there isn't a game contest, that was the worst contest of all time on this site (yes, worse then the villains one.)

It'd be utterly pointless as well, since we all know who wins.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 10/8/2005 3:56:30 AM | Message Detail
And how does the game contest suck, actually?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/8/2005 3:57:17 AM | Message Detail
Sure, a Guru contest for this wouldn't bug me.

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - transcience
3 - Ngamer64

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From: transience | Posted: 10/8/2005 4:06:44 AM | Message Detail
and my name gets misspelled for the thousandth time. :(

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From: transience | Posted: 10/8/2005 4:08:33 AM | Message Detail
a guru contest made me think, are we going to get the list all at once? is it going to be revealed slowly? all at once would ruin any semblance of fun.
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From: greatone10 | Posted: 10/8/2005 4:09:47 AM | Message Detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - transcience
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/8/2005 4:30:14 AM | Message Detail
From: Dranze | Posted: 10/8/2005 6:56:30 AM | #094
And how does the game contest suck, actually?

Only one Sonic game, and it completely stinked.

C'mon, it's Smurf. Can it really be anything else?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/8/2005 4:40:32 AM | Message Detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - transience
3 - Ngamer64
4 - greatone10

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