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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 266
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:14:09 PM | Message Detail
I can't believe some of you haven't even played Fire Emblem 7 and don't know who Lyndis is... her and her game are awesome. I think I'd take here over Geno... but if not, she'd at least put up some sort of fight. It's such a shame that Fire Emblem isn't very popular on Gamefaqs...

And Fox beating a 1 seed with ease would rock.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:18:05 PM | Message Detail
As a 16-seed, no less. Think Fox would still be the favorite amongst bracket-makers if that was the bracket we got instead of the one that just finished?
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From: cyko | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:34:18 PM | Message Detail
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2005 9:44:28 PM | Message Detail | #041
*floods the topic so cyko can't keep up* =P


*kicks HaRRicH* =P

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 12:14:35 PM | Message Detail | #062
I'm curious to hear the common consensus on this...who's the strongest character from SSB/M we haven't seen in a contest yet?


Peach, easily and by miles.

From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2005 6:39:11 PM | Message Detail | #074
Who in the ****ing **** is Lyndis? I can't see him/her/it even coming close to Geno for the life of me.

And counting out Mewtwo and Lloyd against Geno is just... wrong.


Lyndis vs. Geno is the perfect example of a match that would be greatly influenced by the match pic. and since Lyndis is a cute chick, while Geno is a blue doll, i would definitely pick Lyndis over Geno. although, i don't think Lyndis would be much higher in the x-stats than Geno was this year. and i would personally take Mewtwo over Lyndis, Geno, and Lloyd. he does have SSBM behind him and isn't hated nearly as much as Pikachu is.


(8) Super Metroid
(9) Super Mario Kart

Who ya got?


someone mentioned a topic or so ago that Mario Kart could do some serious damage in a game bracket and i whole-heartedly agree. Mario Kart is more than just a Mario spin-off. it revolutionized and practically created a sub-genre of racing games.

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From: cyko | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:35:59 PM | Message Detail
oh, and if anyone is gonna rally for a Fire Emblem character, then it had better be Tethys. she is the best of the best.

<3
Tethys

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:42:45 PM | Message Detail
Maybe so, but beating an SFF'd-SM would still be a feat...Super Metroid without the SFF would be a good deal stronger, and I don't have much faith in SMK bein' much stronger than, say, Street Fighter 2 was.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:43:56 PM | Message Detail
If an FE character gets in -- and has any hope of being respectable -- it better be Marth or Roy. Otherwise, unless given a lucky lucky draw, they'll be a one-and-out.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:49:23 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and that's not to say Marth or Roy would be guaranteed to be respectable if they got in; they're still optional characters in SSBM that're generally considered to be weaker than Peach, who's been debated to be weaker than Wario, who lost to Shadow during his fluke 2k3 run and is most likely over-rated in the stats of the one year he made it in.

Shew...point is, I doubt any FE character would be more than just above fodder, and putting Marth or Roy there when others can't feels dirty to me.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2005 7:55:09 PM | Message Detail
It might just be my peach bias/wario dislike, but why would Wario ever be strong? I was new/uneducated, so I did have shadow (come on, he does LOOK cooler), and I never really expected much out of Wario. Does he have any smash hit games that would make him really popular?

Not to say that Peach does (by herself), but she has to be more well known than Wario, she is having her own game soon, and well, just look at Zelda. Peach does as much or more for her series than Zelda does for hers. She doesn't have the title factor, which could hurt, and she's not from the Zelda series, so I guess that could hurt, too...Still though, I don't see her being much weaker than Yoshi.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 8:27:11 PM | Message Detail
My thing against Princess is this: aside from SMB2, I can't think of a game where she's even among my top three characters in a game, playble or otherwise (that's right, even the Mario spin-offs...except maybe Mario Kart 64). Furthermore, Princess was nearly doubled by Wario in the fave-Mario-character poll, and I think she only beat Waluigi by a percent or two.

Now, throw her against an unknown or some fodder and there'll be no question I take her. However, much higher and I start having my doubts; while people certainly know her, I also think few people feel more than indifferent to her. Seeing her be comparable to Waluigi when he is as hated and new as he is (not to mention not in SSBM), and I just can't get myself to give alot of faith.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 10/1/2005 9:06:30 PM | Message Detail
So, looking back at the contest...what were all your favorite matches?

1)Ness vs. CJ - yeah...it was nice seeing my predicting something the board didn't...for ONCE. And it was the only time I did in this contest...or the previous...or the one before that...

2)Snake vs. Manny...Manny was above 20% for a looooong time. Yes, and I -so- voted for Manny, because Manny's just great...

3)Kefka vs. Vercetti...the closest we've gotten to an epic close match.

4)Kerrigan vs. Vincent...just hilarious to see the Kerrigan predicters lose horribly.

5)Magus vs. Knuckles...the greatest upset in the history of GameFAQs (in my opinion).

6)Squall vs. Geno...Geno was WINNING for, like, 15 seconds. Way longer than what other fodder's accomplished. I mean, I vote and Squall's winning 60/40...I was really disappointed that Geno never got the lead. Then I refreshed...Geno with the lead! I even refreshed quite a FEW times and Geno was still leading! I was crying with joy (almost). Ulti didn't Geno justice in the post-contest analysis.

7)Luigi vs. KOS-MOS...I love it when the green plumber looks ferocious.

8)Ocelot vs. Pac-Man...I love huge upsets.

9)Kirby vs. Tidus...it was wonderful seeing Kirby winning handily. <(*_*<)

10)Master Chief vs. DK...DK was leading by a large amount at one point, which was great...not to mention it was just neat to see such a large vote swing take place, when DK's supposed to be pretty GOOD with the day vote. I still wish DK won, though...

11)Mega Man vs. Yoshi...it was just hilarious to see Mega Man 0wning so much...even though I like Yoshi better.

That's it...I didn't enjoy the later rounds.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/1/2005 10:49:06 PM | Message Detail
Maybe so, but beating an SFF'd-SM would still be a feat...Super Metroid without the SFF would be a good deal stronger, and I don't have much faith in SMK bein' much stronger than, say, Street Fighter 2 was.

Really? I'd bet on SMK being at least as strong as SMRPG...it's a huge, HUGE game...the second most popular on the SNES, I believe. I'd put SMRPG as its floor, and I'd give it a shot against Metroid Prime. Still quite possibly below Super Metroid, but it would be a pretty good match.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 10:54:46 PM | Message Detail
1) Knuckles > Magus -- Had Mega Man beaten Crono, Magus would have been the Ultimate Loser of 2k5. Yet, despite not officially earning that title, I can't think of a bigger loser now, and there couldn't have been a better character to put him in his place than Knuckles.

2) Mega Man > Sonic -- My #1 beat my #5 in the closest match of the contest. Hard to complain, really.

3) Tommy Vercetti > Kefka -- This match, as noted by somebody at the very end of the match, seriously had EVERYTHING in a great match; a hero-VS-villain by board standards (as-in Kefka's not the villain this time), a comeback, Slowflake's curse, the new-found popularity of a term (barriers!!!1!), CJay talking, cheating, and close all day. The only thing it lacked was a wire-to-wire finish, and it would have had it if CJay could have waited another hour or so to call the cheating.

Honorable Mention) Mario > Crono -- Let's face it, Mario deserves that ****, especially after the immense crap that was done in their 2k4 encounter (which cost me prizes AND a position on the Top Fifty).
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From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 10/1/2005 10:56:31 PM | Message Detail
4)Kerrigan vs. Vincent...just hilarious to see the Kerrigan predicters lose horribly.

Indeed it was: proves that Blizzard does not equal instant win.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 10/1/2005 10:57:47 PM | Message Detail
1) Kefka vs. Tommy Vercetti




2) Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
3) Revolver Ocelot vs. Pac-Man (I was one of the few that thought Pac-Man had a very good chance at the upset).
4) The first five minutes of Dante vs. Vincent
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 10:58:52 PM | Message Detail
That's gonna be where we differ, I guess; you think SMRPG would be SMK's floor, I think SMRPG would be SMK's ceiling. I understand and respect how many sales and how much love it's got, but I don't see it out-doing SMRPG here indirectly (though quite possibly head-to-head; I don't know how the spin-offs would favor against each other).
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From: swirldude | Posted: 10/1/2005 10:59:43 PM | Message Detail
Furthermore, Princess was nearly doubled by Wario in the fave-Mario-character poll, and I think she only beat Waluigi by a percent or two.

I forgot how much that poll matters, seeing as Yoshi wins the contest every year.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:00:33 PM | Message Detail
Lyndis would not beat Geno. She'd be another Kerrigan.

And what happened to Leonhart4? I haven't seen him around.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:06:49 PM | Message Detail
I forgot how much that poll matters, seeing as Yoshi wins the contest every year.

You're right, the polls are inaccurate, my bad...that's how Wario smoked Shadow, right?

The thing about those polls is that we're all too quick to try to rank them in numerical order and treat it like a commandment. However, you gotta sift through the obvious crap; OBVIOUSLY, Yoshi's not #1 in the contests, this we know. We can tell which ones are the most loved though (Yoshi, Luigi, Mario, and Bowser), which is most likely what we all assumed before the poll. Meanwhile, in that same poll, Princess has only beat somebody that's been around for...what, I'm guessing two years? And absolutely annoying and uninspired at that, too. She was far and away from third-from-last, too, so it's not like it's a bad bet to think she's weak.
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From: greatone10 | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:17:06 PM | Message Detail
I bet Yoshi was number one in that poll only because he went solo in a few games, one of which was Yoshi's Island.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:19:50 PM | Message Detail
All that poll does is ask your favorite Mario character. I doubt Peach is anyones favorite but that doesn't mean that most Mario fans won't vote her over anyone else that isin't Mario or Nintendo.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:24:48 PM | Message Detail
Trusting polls like that is as silly as trusting Link vs. Ganondorf. The SFF in an X-way poll like that would be ridiculous.
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From: transience | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:36:46 PM | Message Detail
I love super metroid more than anyone, but I don't think it's as strong as people think. I think SMK could get 55% on it. I'm probably the person who said that the MK series would do a good amount of damage - I would seriously consider it over a game like MGS.

Wario has a fanbase, but it's not a casual one. I think Peach would do all right simply because she's associated with Mario, but she'd get SFFed in a way that makes Link/Ganon look like nothin', if you know what I mean.
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From: Heroic Hentai Fanboy | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:56:52 PM | Message Detail
How is Lyn/Geno even discussed? Sadly, nobody cares about FE, and she isn't ever the main character. Plus she's the most average thing on the world. At least Geno is cool.
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From: Heroic Hentai Fanboy | Posted: 10/1/2005 11:57:26 PM | Message Detail
Not to mention, do you see her breaking 20% on Squall? I sure as hell don't.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:03:48 AM | Message Detail
It's not like we're putting all the faith in the world for polls like that; it's just that, when a character is as low as she is, she's most likely weak. You know who else we've seen that low before on a favorites-poll? Dr. Robotnik, and he's weaker than CATS despite being probably the most fought villain ever.
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From: Heroic Hentai Fanboy | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:13:17 AM | Message Detail
*looks at current poll*

I stand corrected. But then again, such mighty competition...
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:17:33 AM | Message Detail
...FE's gettin' a console game? This month? I might stand corrected, too, but I think Geno/Lyndis would still go in Geno's favor if they faced today.
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From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:19:31 AM | Message Detail
This might be a ToS fluke through there actually was some competiton in that poll.
From: Heroic Hentai Fanboy | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:21:12 AM | Message Detail
This might be a ToS fluke through there actually was some competiton in that poll.

Probably. And if it wasn't, it would mean Ike would be the guy to nominate on 2K6, not Lyn.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/2/2005 5:15:13 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, totally huge competition here. Though I'm surprised the Europeans didn't come out en masse for the soccer game... whatever.

Marth and Roy are definitely somewhere between Master Hand and Ness. That's a huge range, sure... but I'm thinking they'd end up a few points lower than Ness. They just don't have the uber-rabid fanbase to keep up with him. Sure, Marth would probably nab most of the SSBM vote, and with it the win, for obvious reasons, in a direct match, but that's not the point. If Marth and Roy get most of their strength from SSBM and still end up near the fodder line, there's just no way another FE character is going to be able to take on Geno successfully. After all, SMRPG DID beat SF2 handily... but we all know that, right?

I think Geno/Lyndis would still go in Geno's favor if they faced today.

That bracket was intended to be a SC2K5 bracket, so just act as if the match was taking place in early August.
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From: cyko | Posted: 10/2/2005 6:12:06 AM | Message Detail
so, noone on this site cares about Fire Emblem, eh?

*points at today's poll*

Which scheduled October console release are you most looking forward to?
Vote Accepted
FIFA 06 5.79% 541
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance 42.97% 4013
Ratchet: Deadlocked 11.23% 1049
Romancing SaGa 9.79% 914
SOCOM 3: U.S. Navy SEALs 9.5% 887
SSX on Tour 7.79% 727
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland 12.93% 1207
TOTAL VOTES 9338


ok, so those aren'e the most anticipated games (WHY does Square keep making Saga games?! bah.), but keep in mind that FE's SpC2K4 match took place only a few months after it's release. it barely had time to sink in and leave an impression on people. i'd be willing to bet that if a Fire Emblem game made into a game contest this year that it would do much better.

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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 10/2/2005 6:18:31 AM | Message Detail
*looks at current poll*

Sigh, I was hoping to see Soul Calibur 3 on this poll today. It would have been FE's only competition.
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 10/2/2005 6:43:16 AM | Message Detail
soil calibur 3. fire emblem in 3d, and castlevania ds.......WHAT A MONTH
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From: voltch | Posted: 10/2/2005 8:00:21 AM | Message Detail
after pondering about it for months i've come to the conclusion that there is a FFIX character in KH.
it's the flippin parasite cage
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 10/2/2005 8:29:28 AM | Message Detail
And what happened to Leonhart4? I haven't seen him around.

I asked the same thing earlier. He hasn't logged in for about a week, and nobody's mentioned seeing any sort of explanation from him =/
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/2/2005 8:45:42 AM | Message Detail
Ike for SC2k6!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/2/2005 9:06:41 AM | Message Detail
Today, yesterday, early August...whichever; point is, before this FE game is released, I'd have taken Geno.
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From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 10/2/2005 9:56:09 AM | Message Detail
Picks on that board bracket...

(16) Fox McCloud
(8) Mario Mario
(5) Megaman
(4) Frog
(6) Chun-Li
(3) Zelda
(10) Yoshi
(2) Kratos Aurion

Zelda vs. Knux was tricky, but the others were all pretty cut and dry.

(1) Tifa Lockheart
(9) Squall Leonhart
(5) Diablo
(4) Link
(11) Luigi Mario
(3) Samus Aran
(7) Bowser
(15) Carl Johnson

Lot of tough matches in that first round. Diablo vs. Ness, Luigi vs. Vivi, Terra vs. CJ. And poor Shadow.

(1) Lloyd Irving
(8) Geno
(12) Serge
(4) Vincent Valentine
(6) Solid Snake
(14) Locke Cole
(10) Sonic the Hedgehog
(15) Ryu (SF2)

Geno vs. Lyndis and The Boss vs. Locke were tough ones. I actually didn't think Lloyd was really in danger of losing to Mewtwo, but I can see the other viewpoint.

(1) CATS
(8) Zidane Tribal
(12) Shadow the Hedgehog
(13) Crono
(11) Zero
(3) Janus "Magus" Zeal
(10) Kirby
(15) Rikku

I think Leon was overrated by the X-Stats, so I picked Rikku there. Other tough matches were Zidane vs. Wario, Shadow vs. Kefka (I think Shadow's a bit overrated in any data we have of him), and CATS vs. Laharl, but less so on the last one. Can't see Laharl keeping it close with Ansem, and CATS has proven he has the ability to beat people.

(8) Mario Mario
(5) Megaman
(3) Zelda
(10) Yoshi

Shame that all the second round matches are so easy to pick.

(1) Tifa Lockheart
(4) Link
(3) Samus Aran
(7) Bowser

But I think Tifa vs. Squall would be a 51-49 affair. I don't think Tifa is too much stronger than Vinny.

(1) Lloyd Irving
(4) Vincent Valentine
(6) Solid Snake
(10) Sonic the Hedgehog

I think Lloyd's gotta be high-end fodder, no matter what the stats say... and I have no faith in Geno, Lyndis, or Mewtwo. But that's a tough four pack. It's much harder to pick fodder vs. fodder matches, now, since we've figured almost everything else out.

(8) Zidane Tribal
(13) Crono
(11) Zero
(10) Kirby

Easy stuff, though I wonder if CATS would keep it close with Zidane.

(8) Mario
(3) Zelda

(4) Link
(3) Samus Aran

Wish we'd had the presence of mind to make a Linkless board bracket back then, seeing as Link was cut out of the real thing. It takes a bit of the interest out of this one.

(4) Vincent Valentine
(10) Sonic the Hedgehog

This is actually a really tough division. Snake, Sonic, and Vinny are fairly close in strength.

(13) Crono
(10) Kirby

There's my risky pick for the tourney. Kirby definitely could beat Zero with the strength he's shown of late (and Zero's weakness compared to his old value).

(8) Mario
(4) Link
(10) Sonic the Hedgehog
(13) Crono

(4) Link
(13) Crono

Although I expect Crono vs. Sonic to be a close one that could go the other way.

(4) Link

ANTICLIMAX'D
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 10/2/2005 10:04:32 AM | Message Detail
Damn, today's poll rocks! GameFAQs is showing Fire Emblem some much deserved love. I hope that the lead from Path of Radiance (Ike) will be cool and likeable enough to rally into next year. It's never worked for Lyndis, but perhaps with the Gamecube game out, it can work. I don't care if they end up losing horribly, I want an FE character into the contest. (FE vs. FFTA never happened.)

I was thinking about something. People have been discussing about Nightmare (or another SCII non-Link character) being in the contest. Let's pretend that it's a 4 vs. 5 seed match, with Kratos Aurion with the 4 seed and Nightmare with the 5 seed. They both have the coolest pic imaginable and the vote totals average about 100k... Who wins?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/2/2005 10:11:52 AM | Message Detail
I have no idea how supported Nightmare is, so I couldn't tell you.

I'm of the belief that Yoshimitsu would be the best representer of both SC and Tekken though, so I would take him over Kratos Aurion without alot of thought; I see him being just short of Diablo.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/2/2005 10:55:22 AM | Message Detail
Furthermore, Princess was nearly doubled by Wario in the fave-Mario-character poll, and I think she only beat Waluigi by a percent or two.

The thing about those polls is that we're all too quick to try to rank them in numerical order and treat it like a commandment. However, you gotta sift through the obvious crap; OBVIOUSLY, Yoshi's not #1 in the contests, this we know. We can tell which ones are the most loved though (Yoshi, Luigi, Mario, and Bowser), which is most likely what we all assumed before the poll. Meanwhile, in that same poll, Princess has only beat somebody that's been around for...what, I'm guessing two years? And absolutely annoying and uninspired at that, too. She was far and away from third-from-last, too, so it's not like it's a bad bet to think she's weak.

One thing about favorites polls that people don't really emphasize is that it is a FAVORITES poll! Peach is a different situation from the typical hero in those polls. Her very character is one that wouldn't be a FAVORITE of many people. Thus she will always do badly when it comes to those polls. It doesn't mean at all that people wouldn't vote for her though.

People were saying the EXACT same thing about Zelda in 2003. They said that even though she is the leading lady of the Zelda series, people don't care about her enough for her to be much of anything in a contest setting. But now that we've actually seen her PERFORM in these matches, it's a different story.

I think it would be nearly the same thing for Peach. She may not have the series name recognition that Zelda does... but people KNOW who she is whether she is Peach or Princess Toadstool. She's been more to her series than Zelda has, with cartoon appearances, playable in SMRPG and SMB2. She has just as much going for her in SSBM as Zelda does. She kicks ass in the Mario Kart games. Of course there may be people that don't care for her at all, just as there are people that don't care for Zelda. But there's nothing to make me believe that Peach wouldn't have a respectable ranking of at least around 25% on Base Link in these contests.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/2/2005 11:06:56 AM | Message Detail
and castlevania ds.......WHAT A MONTH

Just saw that! You, sir, have lost all credibility... (-_-)
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/2/2005 11:52:45 AM | Message Detail
I kept in mind that it was a favorites-poll...but the number of people who had Waluigi as a favorite as nearly as many as the number who had Princess as a favorite, and she's been around infinitely longer as well as been in so many more games (not to mention any given role she's had is better than anything Waluigi's ever done). When I see that, compare the gap between Mario/Bowser/Yoshi/Luigi and Wario in strength, then see how much lower Princess is in that poll than Wario...I gotta be skeptical about it. She screams Dr. Robotnik at me right now (loads of exposure, loads of apathy)

I'll give you that she does have a big range though, 'cuz she could have a Zelda-esque relationship with Mario, but I don't think that's what we'd be seeing.
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Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 10/2/2005 11:55:12 AM | Message Detail
Jay Solano, CATS, Gordan Freeman, and Tanner should have a Fatal Fourway Match <_<
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 10/2/2005 11:58:24 AM | Message Detail
Prince of Persia vs Kratos(GoW). Discuss this match plz <_<
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From: Heroic Hentai Fanboy | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:05:36 PM | Message Detail
PoP is hotter and wins in a nailbiter.
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Well, when the parents are away... brother and sister can play...
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:12:47 PM | Message Detail
And with regards to the Princess, keep in mind that we'll be seeing Super Princess Peach by the next contest...which is apparently like Yoshi's Island, so it could be quite good.
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:17:14 PM | Message Detail
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:06:56 PM | Message Detail
and castlevania ds.......WHAT A MONTH

Just saw that! You, sir, have lost all credibility..


why? the ds castlevania game (dawn of sorrow) looks to be fantastic.
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:29:07 PM | Message Detail
why? the ds castlevania game (dawn of sorrow) looks to be fantastic.

I know that! Your first post seemed to be loaded with sarcasm.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/2/2005 12:33:01 PM | Message Detail
I'll give you that she does have a big range though, 'cuz she could have a Zelda-esque relationship with Mario, but I don't think that's what we'd be seeing.

Well, in my book Zelda is a lot closer to Link than Peach is to Mario... I'd expect a lot of people to feel the same way. I get that Eggman vibe too... probably not as low as CATS, but more around the level of Tails or Fox.
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