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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 264
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 9/22/2005 3:42:37 PM | Message Detail
Link > Cloud
Link > Sephiroth
Link > ALL

Congrats on taking home another victory Link!

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
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''If I were the rain that binds together the earth and sky, who in all eternity will never mingle, would I be able to bind the hearts of people together?''
From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 9/22/2005 3:44:03 PM | Message Detail
Clinkeroth> everyone else to ever encounter this contest, and for that matter anyone else to join this contest.
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 9/22/2005 3:44:12 PM | Message Detail
Woot for Link!

Knux > Squall
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Xenobi lost everything he owned in Katrina, works 60 hours a week, and still had time to own me!
I just got GURU'D by Jman_gamerX8!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 3:44:28 PM | Message Detail
Link > Cloud
Link > Sephiroth
Link > ALL


Quite unfortunate it has to be that way...

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 9/22/2005 3:45:19 PM | Message Detail
*Clinkiroth
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/22/2005 4:13:05 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles >>>>> Magus.
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Much like priest-sex, Jman_gamerX8 molested gurus by the hundreds.
Congrats, for your dominance has now been compared to priest-sex.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:30:37 PM | Message Detail
Next topic
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Congrats to Jman_gamerX8 for winning the Guru Contest.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:30:43 PM | Message Detail
Link is really doing well here. Next year he might even go as far as to clear 55% on cloud if tp ends up being incredibly successful (when I say successful I mean even for a zelda game. Of course it won't have a problem churning out a profit for nintendo).
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:31:52 PM | Message Detail
Greatest 500 post ever.
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Pwned by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru Contest.
Nominate Sub-Zero and The Prince of Persia for SC2k6
From: sidharta | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:32:58 PM | Message Detail
So if a couple of old games being repackaged to people who were already fans of the Zelda series increased Link's popularity nearly 10%, I shudder to think what an actual new game would do for him.

TP will be bought mostly by Link fans, while those people buying a GC may not be Link fans previously.

You don't buy a GC only for LoZ, you know.

But if you get an LoZ game with it, you'll eventually play it even if you've never heard of it before.

It essentially did for Link what KH did for Cloud, introducing them to a relatively new audience.

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Jman_gamerX8 59.94% 205 * It's not even close folks.
sidharta 40.06% 137 * Fair warning to any who dare to challenge Jman_gamerX8.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:32:59 PM | Message Detail
Link is really doing well here. Next year he might even go as far as to clear 55% on cloud if tp ends up being incredibly

Yeah, he isn't going to be doing anything like that.

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:34:02 PM | Message Detail
Link is gonna completely and utterly destroy Cloud next year.
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Pwned by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru Contest.
Nominate Sub-Zero and The Prince of Persia for SC2k6
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:34:07 PM | Message Detail
Why not? If tp is marketed correcting it could be one of the top selling games in this generation of consoles.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: transience | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:34:17 PM | Message Detail
you know, I've never seen a game automatically anointed as the greatest game ever like TP. I've seen Ulti say it'll give FF7 a run for its money in a game contest and no one's even played the damn thing.

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Jman_gamerX8:Link::me:Jay Solano.
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:35:28 PM | Message Detail
You don't buy a GC only for LoZ, you know.

I know a few people would actually would.. >_> <_<
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MARIOWNED
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:36:56 PM | Message Detail
Link is gonna completely and utterly destroy Cloud next year.

He was suppose to go and get 55% this year wasn't he?

Why not? If tp is marketed correcting it could be one of the top selling games in this generation of consoles.

You act as though Cloud has nothing going in his favor. Kingdom Hearts II, Advent Children, and any potential role in Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core -- on top of any potential demographic switch thanks to the variety of big Square titles that will be coming out -- would result in him increasing by a good percentage himself. People can foolishly claim Link for 55%+ like they did this year, but it isn't going to happen.

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:38:30 PM | Message Detail
He was suppose to go and get 55% this year wasn't he?

No, 53%. He'll be pushing 55% next year.
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Pwned by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru Contest.
Nominate Sub-Zero and The Prince of Persia for SC2k6
From: sidharta | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:38:51 PM | Message Detail
I know a few people would actually would.. >_> <_<

Well, HM (or TS or whatever you want to call him) once said that he would buy the PS3 for a remake of FF VII alone.

Obviously, he's the exception.

Same deal with those few people you know who would buy a GC only for a new LoZ game.

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Jman_gamerX8 59.94% 205 * It's not even close folks.
sidharta 40.06% 137 * Fair warning to any who dare to challenge Jman_gamerX8.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:39:09 PM | Message Detail
Man, that was an amazing 500th post, if I do say so myself. Certainly better than the first post of this topic.
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:39:46 PM | Message Detail
No, 53%. He'll be pushing 55% next year.

He didn't get 53% this year either and he won't be "pushing 55% next year."

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:40:11 PM | Message Detail
you know, I've never seen a game automatically anointed as the greatest game ever like TP. I've seen Ulti say it'll give FF7 a run for its money in a game contest and no one's even played the damn thing.

I don't think that it's going to be one of the greatest games of all time (that's the kind of expectation that leads to a game turning into a disapointment), but it well probably still be very, very good. It won't have a problem outselling wind waker, or being the top selling gamecube game as long as nintendo does a proper job marketing it, and it's all but obvious that they well. It's already been the feature of a nintendo power cover. They're going to do everything in their power to make it as successful as possible because they know that the zelda series is possibly the best thing they have going for them in north america.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: transience | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:40:19 PM | Message Detail
hey HM, you wouldn't happen to have a list of best-selling ps1/n64 titles, would you?
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Jman_gamerX8:Link::me:Jay Solano.
From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:41:47 PM | Message Detail
*tags*
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:41:47 PM | Message Detail
He didn't get 53% this year either and he won't be "pushing 55% next year."

He managed to increase his 2k4 victory by a decent margin. With tp on his side (assuming it's highly successful), he could push for 55%.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:42:36 PM | Message Detail
hey HM, you wouldn't happen to have a list of best-selling ps1/n64 titles, would you?

I'll check up on that and see if I can put something together. The highest selling game of the generation was Super Mario 64, though. Goldeneye 007, Final Fantasy VII, and Ocarina of Time all within the top 5.

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: transience | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:43:22 PM | Message Detail
if you could, that would be awesome. thanks.

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Jman_gamerX8:Link::me:Jay Solano.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:43:49 PM | Message Detail
He managed to increase his 2k4 victory by a decent margin. With tp on his side (assuming it's highly successful), he could push for 55%.

Yeah, right, if you think Link is going to cancel out everything Cloud has next year and then push ahead by 2 - 3% we're finished talking on the subject.

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:45:50 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, right, if you think Link is going to cancel out everything Cloud has next year and then push ahead by 2 - 3% we're finished talking on the subject.

Yeah, because a cameo, a movie, and a rumor about a minor role in VINCENT'S game will cancel out the most anticipated game this gen.
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Pwned by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru Contest.
Nominate Sub-Zero and The Prince of Persia for SC2k6
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:46:16 PM | Message Detail
I'd also appreciate you doing that.

Just out of curiosity, do have any idea why so many people who I've never see on this board seem to come out of nowhere and criticize you in all of your topics hm? A lot of them know about your megaman pick in 2k4 and still use it against you. I'm just wondering if there's an actual reason for these people, or if it's just one of the mysteries of life.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:46:44 PM | Message Detail
a cameo

Certainly didn't hurt him last time.
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:46:49 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, because a cameo,

Yeah, KH did so little for Cloud. KH2 isn't going to do anything at all.

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“Damn. Jman_gamerX8 is insane—he kicked my ass in the Guru Contest.”
“This guy are sick!”
From: sidharta | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:47:50 PM | Message Detail
or if it's just one of the mysteries of life.

I think you have just answered your own question.

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Jman_gamerX8 59.94% 205 * It's not even close folks.
sidharta 40.06% 137 * Fair warning to any who dare to challenge Jman_gamerX8.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:48:11 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, right, if you think Link is going to cancel out everything Cloud has next year and then push ahead by 2 - 3% we're finished talking on the subject.

A role in KH2, and ummm.... the official AC release in NA? I don't see why TP wouldn't overpower those things.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:48:29 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, KH did so little for Cloud. KH2 isn't going to do anything at all.

Yeah, because Cloud winning the 2k3 contest had absolutely nothing to do with him being underrated statistically, thanks to the Mario/Cloud anomaly. It was all the KH boost right.
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Pwned by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru Contest.
Nominate Sub-Zero and The Prince of Persia for SC2k6
From: transience | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:48:55 PM | Message Detail
HM is, um, outspoken. when he claims for two months that MM is going to win and gets absolutely owned by Link, that stuff comes back to bite you. I don't think anyone means anything vicious by it, it's just poking fun at our favourite biased user.
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Jman_gamerX8:Link::me:Jay Solano.
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:48:55 PM | Message Detail
Let's give Sephiroth some credit here. He's the only NPC that could put up numbers like this against the most popular character here. And after KH2 and AC... it can only get better. =D
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~*Ex~Tha*~
*is RKO'd by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru contest*
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:49:03 PM | Message Detail
So how close to Link do you honestly think Cloud was before KH?
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:49:46 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, KH did so little for Cloud. KH2 isn't going to do anything at all.

To be fair the anomoly that is mario vs. cloud 2k2 makes it hard to know just how much kh really did. I'd base it off of how much it did to sephiroth myself, but I'm unsure how big cloud's role was, and sephiroth is, from what I've heard just an optional boss.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:51:47 PM | Message Detail
Well, here's the All-Time "Optimum Bracket", based on RPGuy's preliminary standings (1 vs. 64, 2 vs. 63, etc.)

Hyrule Division:

1- Link
16- Nemesis

8- Luigi
9- Claire Redfield

5- Zelda
12- Scorpion

4- Zero
13- Wario

6- Squall Leonheart
11- Felix

3- Magus
14- M. Bison

7- Frog
10- Morrigan Aensland

2- Sonic the Hedgehog
15- Revolver Ocelot

Zebes Division:

1- Samus Aran
16- Bomberman

8- Vivi
9- Liquid Snake

5- Shadow the Hedgehog
12- Riku

4- Auron
13- Ness

6- Kirby
11- Aya Brea

3- Vincent Valentine
14- Kefka

7- Knuckles
10- Rikku

2- Mario
15- Fox McCloud

Jenova Division:

1- Sephiroth
16- Viewtiful Joe

8- Yoshi
9- Donkey Kong

5- Ryu
12- Diablo

4- Tifa Lockheart
13- Ken Masters

6- Master Chief
11- Chun-Li

3- Ganondorf
14- KOS-MOS

7- Sora
10- Yuna

2- Crono
15- Kasumi

Midgar Division:

1- Cloud Strife
16- Dr. Wily

8- Leon Kennedy
9- Alucard

5- Aeris Gainsborough
12- Strider Hiryu

4- Bowser
13- Tails

6- Tidus
11- Tommy Vercetti

3- Solid Snake
14- Ryu Hayabusa

7- Dante
10- Jill Valentine

2- Mega Man
15- Ramza Beoulve
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:52:12 PM | Message Detail
With the starring role in a movie that's been downloaded a few hundred thousand times and has clearly benefited both Vincent and Sephiroth, Cloud still managed to lose to Link worse than last year, when Link didn't have anything going for him other than a new TP trailer that came out 4 months ago. Twilight Princess is going to be bigger than anything short of a FFVII remake for Cloud.
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Congrats to Jman_gamerX8, who pwned all the Gurus in SC2k5!
From: sidharta | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:52:21 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, because Cloud winning the 2k3 contest had absolutely nothing to do with him being underrated statistically, thanks to the Mario/Cloud anomaly. It was all the KH boost right.

As under-rated as Cloud can be in 2k2, I don't think he can even come close to scratching 46% on Link in 2k2.

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Jman_gamerX8 59.94% 205 * It's not even close folks.
sidharta 40.06% 137 * Fair warning to any who dare to challenge Jman_gamerX8.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:53:14 PM | Message Detail
6- Squall Leonheart
11- Felix

3- Magus
14- M. Bison


*smirks*
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:54:39 PM | Message Detail
you know, this match is reminding me why we have the term "Clinkeroth". two months of hard work owning the main bracket and Sephiroth is treating him like the Midgar Zolom. ~transience, on Sephiroth vs. Mario

Gotta post that.
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~*Ex~Tha*~
*is RKO'd by Jman_gamerX8 in the Guru contest*
From: sidharta | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:55:57 PM | Message Detail
I still don't get how Mario got seeded lower than Samus, when Samus has done nothing but disappoint the whole contest.

Not to mention Magus getting seeded higher than Squall...

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Jman_gamerX8 59.94% 205 * It's not even close folks.
sidharta 40.06% 137 * Fair warning to any who dare to challenge Jman_gamerX8.
From: dethwing | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:56:06 PM | Message Detail
5- Ryu
12- Diablo


I'd take Diablo without a second thought.
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"Kefka and pictures go together like gordon freeman and winning."
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:57:11 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Diablo without a second thought.

Asmuch as I like diablo he barely managed a victory over bison. Ryu would take him easily.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:57:52 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Diablo without a second thought.

He did nearly 15% worse on Sonic, but feel free to waste points.
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:58:04 PM | Message Detail
He must have been talking about in a 0 bracket...at least, I hope he was.
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I can't see why kids love CTC, but I can see that Jman_gamerX8 owns all gurus.
Final SC2K5 Bracket Score: 140 (Horrible, I know)
From: sidharta | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:58:21 PM | Message Detail
you know, this match is reminding me why we have the term "Clinkeroth". two months of hard work owning the main bracket and Sephiroth is treating him like the Midgar Zolom. ~transience, on Sephiroth vs. Mario

That will be my new sig right after 2 weeks has passed since Link vs. Seph.

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Jman_gamerX8 59.94% 205 * It's not even close folks.
sidharta 40.06% 137 * Fair warning to any who dare to challenge Jman_gamerX8.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/22/2005 7:58:47 PM | Message Detail
Incidentally, I just looked at the torrent site that I use and the number of times AC has been downloaded is now in the 180,000 range. And that's just torrents. P2P is much easier for the layperson to use, even if it comes with lots of annoyances, so I'd guess that at least that amount of people have downloaded it through other means. That's quite remarkable.
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Congrats to Jman_gamerX8, who pwned all the Gurus in SC2k5!ntla
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