Since I don't have a list for me to avoid lots of math, I'll pick two fodderish characters to do for ya: Kerrigan and Agent 47.

--Kerrigan would get 55.4% on unadjusted CJ.
--Agent 47 would get 55.69% on unadjusted CJ

Hope that helps out.
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Heh, now that I did that, I didn't realize how close Kerrigan and Agent 47 really are.

Kerrigan VS Agent 47, who wins (assume she gets the same pic as she did against Vincent)? Also, how big of a difference would Kerrigan getting her face-shot from Brood War make in this match?
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HaRRicH, Kirby in SSBM is just awful. Even casuals aren't a big fan of him. I doubt he'd get much SFF there.

And...if Seph would SFF Squall, what about Auron/Vivi? Auron being SFF'd by Seph certainly looks good for Ganon. I'd like to see adjustments for Ganon's half-division that use Auron-through Tails...is that much different from using Spring Ganon?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
Congrats to Jman, for knowing that on GameFAQs, men are always > women.

As a side-note, Link has now broken 55%. Here's to hoping he finishes this way.

Thanks to you too ShadowOwns. Sheesh, now that the contest is over, despite sucking horribly in this contest (129/216, how 'bout that?), I now get props and recommendations to be on the analysis crew? Granted, score doesn't determine knowledge and I like the props, but, come on now.....
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Yeah, Bowser and Samus really caused my score to take a dive although I didn't miss many matches overall.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

So is Harrich pronounced with a "Itch" at the end or an "Ick?"

>_>

I've always thought you to be an ick kind of a guy.

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HaRRicH, Kirby in SSBM is just awful. Even casuals aren't a big fan of him. I doubt he'd get much SFF there.

From personal experience, all the casual gamers that I have gotten to give SSB/M a chance have been quick to pick Kirby. That's not to say everybody does or even a majority, but I don't think that's worth throwing out the window either. Even if the casuals aren't a big fan of him, it's a tough argument to say Bowser's got more of a fan following in SSBM than Kirby does in SSB and/or SSBM.


And...if Seph would SFF Squall, what about Auron/Vivi? Auron being SFF'd by Seph certainly looks good for Ganon. I'd like to see adjustments for Ganon's half-division that use Auron-through Tails...is that much different from using Spring Ganon?

I don't have the adjustments for that, though I think you're right that the two values are close. However, it's still tough to say that Ganon (and Samus) have suffered as much SFF as it takes for Ganon to be comparable with his VC-value against Sephiroth. Not that it's impossible, mind you...but didn't the Samus/Ganon match turn out nearly as expected? Also, before the contest started, it was common belief that Mario/Samus would have no SFF (not that everyone agreed, but it was still common belief). Now, suddenly, both stats and our common beliefs are wrong enough to bring Ganon back up that high? While it's possible, especially with the Auron-through-Tails bit, I remain skeptical of there being that much SFF.
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heh, does score really matter? ive been a regular during the contest for the past 3 years, and barley knew about 2002 and i only have a score of 113+link winner today out of whatever it is -.-
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

So is Harrich pronounced with a "Itch" at the end or an "Ick?"

It's misleading; I pronounce it like "each", personally. I just think it'd look stupid trying to spell it like that, heh, so I push the boundaries with this.
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Harrich, are u in the same club that i was, having magus winning the devil division?
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

Yeah, Samus and Magus put the biggest hurts on me...though Tidus didn't do me any favors either.
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Yep; I even got the t-shirt from that club. It's got a big arrow on the back pointing down, saying "insert x-stats here".

I'm so glad Knuckles beat him though, he he he.
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that was the highlight of my weekend xD. And tidus and samus hurt me too >.> *made stupid assumputions based on the xstats too-.-* though i did make up that bracket in less than 10 min and still managed 113+link winner today so <.<
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

*had tidus winning the dream division -.-*
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

I just got on, and I haven't done any math yet but man, what a letdown from Link. Failing to do as well as Sephiroth on Cloud, despite beating said Cloud worse than last year... bleh.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

=P. Somehow, I managed to get my ass intot he top 50. woot.
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"Yes, yes, yes….the black wind howls…wails…blows…….does a somersault….whatever" ~MMXcalibur

I too recommend Harrich to be on the next contest analysis crew for having more deliberative, unbiased, informative posts than most other users during the course of the contest. Although his correct pick percentage by match might be a liability, there's always room to improve.

Hmmkay. Sephiroth is now pegged at 47.74% on BL, decent increase from last year. Link currently has 55.20% on him, which puts him at 53.28% on BL, stable from last year, and Cloud at 50.68%, slight drop from last year. Hum. Seph goes up, but Cloud goes down... and Link seems unaffected by the Nintendo boost. Hmm.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

Well while things are relatively the same for Link 2K3 to 2K5 I say we set him as the new BL.

>_>

Actually, I just wanted an excuse to get rid of BL.

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Link 2003 is BL too, you know... it's just that 2004/2005 are clearly not.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

It was always theorised that Sephiroth got SFF'd in '04, (There were any number of reasons proposed why that didn't happen in '03, the most likely one IMO being Cloud was getting revenge antivoted) and it looks like that was indeed the case, because '04 Link was supposed to get 58% on Sephiroth.
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(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)

Harrich is one of the best posters in this topic. He actually responds to people rather than just ignoring stuff. And he can reason pretty well. He would do good on the analysis crew. I pronounce his name with an "ick" though.

My bracket overall was really good. Samus and Magus screwed me over though, and I somehow didn't have faith in Sora or Kirby for the sweet 16, and I didn't trust Ness or Pac to win either. Those were my only mistakes, but they costed me. My alt had Mario > Samus though, and it got on the top 50 for a day after Mario beat Crono, which was awesome.
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I got smoked by Jman_gamerX8 in the guru topic! Congrats!

i had mm beating crono amazingly -.-
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

Hey now, my Summer 2k4 and Villain brackets looked great (both times, too much faith in a character involved in a debated match kept me from the leaderboard and prizes; thanks, Mario and Ridley). My Game Contest bracket wasn't bad either...it's just this bracket in particular that owned the hell out of me; heck, I might have done worse this time than I did in 2k3.

Next year though, I'm comin' back like Jesus. Just you wait.
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Sephiroth has gained since 2002, just like Cloud. I really didn't expect Link to pull 57%+ again. Also, Sephiroth got SFFed last year against Cloud. Hes only a few percentage points away from Cloud in strength.

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Not including the ToC (Link, Cloud, Seph), who do you guys think the strongest 20 characters are in the contests? By that, I mean not just this contest, but everyone before it as well (except for the Game contest).
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Heh, it's strange how everyone was talking about how vulnerable Sephy looked after the Villains Contest, and look at him now. Link probably won't even outdo Cloud here.

I really don't think it's a stretch just to think that the Final Four was the flukish part, nothing else. Heck, after seeing Sephy lay the smack down on Mario from start to finish while he at least struggled with Bowser and Ganon for a little while, that seems to be a reasonable conclusion.
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."

it's just this bracket in particular that owned the hell out of me; heck, I might have done worse this time than I did in 2k3.

Welcome to my world. Thanks for nothing, Mario Mario and Janus Zeal.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

since i have class now and need to complete 2 more assn.s in 1 hour ill just name the top 6.(excluding mario)

1.Samus
2.Crono
3.MM
4.Sonic
5.Snake
6.Bowser
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

Hey, I tried to warn you guys about Magus over and over again. Not my fault you thought it was just fanboyism.
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."

Ir's nice waking up and finding Link over 55%, yo. ;)

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

Hey, not my fault Magus owns so much he practically forces himself through our brackets. Why, Magus is Board 8's favorite character. I <3 this place.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

Why, Magus is Board 8's favorite character.

That's not what it looked like on the day of Knuckles/Magus. Most of the people here were praising Knuckles and happily ripping their brackets to shreds, while damning the Stats and Magus to hell.
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I can't see why kids love CTC, but I can see that Jman_gamerX8 owns all gurus.
Final SC2K5 Bracket Score: 140 (Horrible, I know)

People like Knuckles too, what can I say. Why, Ulti pretty much mirrored the sentiment of the entire board when he said if anyone HAD to beat Magus before the Elite 8, he'd love it to be Knuckles. I know I'm in the same situation.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

I really don't think it's a stretch just to think that the Final Four was the flukish part, nothing else. Heck, after seeing Sephy lay the smack down on Mario from start to finish while he at least struggled with Bowser and Ganon for a little while, that seems to be a reasonable conclusion.

Just to argue a lil' bit more, we don't know anything about anybody from Sephiroth's division except Liquid, and we had only seen him from one controversial match the year before...and Liquid was even leading Sephiroth after the first minute, now that I look, heh, so it looks like Sephiroth had to fight off some hate in that match too, even if he beat Liquid worse than expected.
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Most of the people here were praising Knuckles and happily ripping their brackets to shreds, while damning the Stats and Magus to hell.

*waves hand*

LOVED it.
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i now have faith in knuckles never loses in the 1st round xD.
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

I didn't love that at all. Knuckles may very well be the most liked character on this board. I don't love Magus or anything, but I prefer him to Sonic characters, not to mention a nice -7 to my bracket.
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This match makes Bowser and Ganon look way better than before. If you assume that Seph 2k3 = Seph 2k5 (which is what this match seems to be indicating), then Bowser and Ganon are higher than Mario 2k3.

...if you don't acknowledge the AC boost, fo course. I can't imagine anyone still denying it.
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Link vs Sephiroth 2k5- 3:00 PST
Link 55.29% 43408
Sephiroth 44.71% 35104
TOTAL VOTES 78512

Link vs Sephiroth 2k2- 3:00 Central
Link 57.56% 39888
Sephiroth 42.44% 29410
TOTAL VOTES 69298

Things have changed quite a bit over the last 3 years. While Link has definitly improved, Sephiroth has also gone up quite a bit. After this point in 2k2, Link started to decrease in percentage while he still seems to be on the rise here.
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''If I were the rain that binds together the earth and sky, who in all eternity will never mingle, would I be able to bind the hearts of people together?''

That's because the first Link/Sephiroth match took place on August 31, 2002. Not the end of September.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

I recall that before the contest started I said that Link vs Sephiroth would score higher than Link vs Cloud.

My statement is looking good right now. If this match picks, up a lil', my statement will be proven correct.

Go Link! Break 55.5%!
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Opus 13 in C minor.

Hopefully Sephiroth can get this over 45% before the match is all said and done, but at the least, it's nice to see that he's increased from last year. And even better that the gap between him and the everyone else is that much bigger.

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i have a new idea reguard it as u want but here it goes. How about we disreguard the "NN" concept all together and make it "Clinkeroth" and whatever fancy name u want to make for mario, samus, crono, mm, sonic and snake because as we can tell, as long as link, clound and sephy are in these contests, they are untouchable from anyone but eachother.
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

The "Noble Nine" still stands though, despite the hell of a test they had to face this year. Although there probably is somebody who could beat somebody in the Noble Nine, this year made me a believer of the term again now that it looks and feels more noble than ever, so to speak.
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i know the NN will stand strong forever(maybe not after these new systems but...)but what im trying to say is that the top 3 of the NN will never be scratched by anyone other than those 3 themselves. We need a new term for the 6 remaining NN members that cannot even scratch Clinkiroth as i just explained.
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

w00t time to go home now after a long day of class. when i get home in about an hour, ill continue my quest to make a new name for the 6 that cannot be beaten by anyone other than themselves. (because Clinkiroth is way to high above the rest of the NN)
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

The Noble Nine actually has a better track record than Clinkeroth against outsiders.

Noble Nine: 94-0
Clinkeroth: 38-1

Okay, so that doesn't mean much, but still...

I think if anyone beats a Noble Nine character next year, it's going to be a FF7 character, be it Vincent, Tifa, or Aeris. Okay, maybe not Aeris, depending on whether she appears at all in AC, but that's besides the point. Bowser could conceivably do it too, although he had the best chance he could have this year and blew it.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

thats because theres more of the NN than there is of Clinkiroth. But that 1 loss came in the most unpredictable contest to come(because it was the 1st) and there is no way in hell cloud would ever lose again to mario, or for that matter anyone outside link.
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*sigh* sonic's never going to be in the final 4 -_-

Watch out when Mario 128 comes out, I'd take Mario over Cloud then... fo sho (assuming it's got Mario 64esque popularity rather than Mario Sunshinesque). Not as a lock or anything, just as a viable pick.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Jman_gamerX8 puts not only Lopen's bracket making skills to shame, but also Raiden's... unheard of!