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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 261
From: TRE Public Account | Posted: 9/20/2005 10:44:39 AM | Message Detail
Um...are you people insane? As of right now this match has 7500 more votes than Crono-Mario, which finished, you'll remember, with 103,000. This is shaping up to easily be the most voted match of the contest. If you're curious as to why this match has so few votes compared to last year, last year was Cloud-Link was on a weekend.

I realize this is the kind of vote total that other characters can only dream of, but this is Link and Cloud afterall. They are supposed to be on an entirely different level for vote totals. In 2k3 they drew in 11000 more votes than second place and last year it was 23000 more votes. With the generally higher vote totals this year, most people were hoping to at least beat last years record of 124000 and maybe even surpass 130000. If the vote really picks up later, it can still do it, but right now it doesn't look so great.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 10:55:02 AM | Message Detail
Honestly, I think that's because the voter movement didn't have time to gear up before the match. In 2k3 and 2k4, people had plenty of time while voting for their favorite to see where things were headed. (Incidentally it was 14,000, not 24000, in 2k3)
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 10:56:47 AM | Message Detail
Let me try that again.

Votes over next highest

2k3= 14,000

2k4 = 23,000
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/20/2005 10:56:48 AM | Message Detail
Link breaks 2000!

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:07:04 AM | Message Detail
Hm, it looks like Cloud (and Vincent) did get a pretty huge AC boost after all; this is quite disappointing for Link. It's a shame Mario won't be able to beat Seph tomorrow because of it, but at least this way we avoid any SFF in the ToC.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:07:50 AM | Message Detail
Honestly, I think that's because the voter movement didn't have time to gear up before the match. In 2k3 and 2k4, people had plenty of time while voting for their favorite to see where things were headed. (Incidentally it was 14,000, not 24000, in 2k3)

Took the words right out of my mouth.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:13:49 AM | Message Detail
Hm, it looks like Cloud (and Vincent) did get a pretty huge AC boost after all; this is quite disappointing for Link. It's a shame Mario won't be able to beat Seph tomorrow because of it, but at least this way we avoid any SFF in the ToC.

...Just no.

The AC boost in almost non-existant, so far. We haven't even hit the afterschool vote and Link is ddoing extrememly well against Cloud.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:14:20 AM | Message Detail
As long as Link finishes at the same or better on Cloud as he did last year, this isn't disappointing. AC was leaked only a little while ago.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:15:58 AM | Message Detail
Huh. First substantial update Cloud's put up in a while.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:18:23 AM | Message Detail
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 2:13:49 PM | #257
The AC boost in almost non-existant, so far. We haven't even hit the afterschool vote and Link is ddoing extrememly well against Cloud.

Link/Cloud has always been a "typical patterns go out of the window" type of match. If Cloud manages to keep it at 52% for the remainder of the match, it's going to depend on how both Mario and Link do against Sephiroth.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:21:29 AM | Message Detail
I agree with you...if Cloud is able to keep it around 52%.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:22:23 AM | Message Detail
Also, how well would Mario have to do on Sephiroth to support that AC did not have any effect?

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:22:50 AM | Message Detail
Weird. That update was the first sub 400 total we've had in...a while.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:25:41 AM | Message Detail
It's not that crazy. Cloud is no slouch with the day vote. In fact, he and Crono are the only Square characters that go out of the "night wolf" mold.

Anyway, if Mario manages to make it close tomorrow, like, 53-47 or something like that, THEN it virtually puts an end to that boost talk - though completely excluding the possibility of Vincent benefitting a Mario/Cloud-like spike, although to a much lesser magnitude, isn't what I'd want to do. SMS' effect completely vanished when it came to the Crono match, after all.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:26:12 AM | Message Detail
Cloud win another update, albeit by 7.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:27:46 AM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:28:42 AM | Message Detail
Or, alternatively, Sephiroth clobbers Mario 58-42 or something en route to a respectable 54-46 defeat against Link, showing Cloud DID SFF Sephiroth last year and he never really dropped at all.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless
From: Lopen | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:29:39 AM | Message Detail
Cloud just needs to take the after-school block and he's back in this. I'm not counting him out yet.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:31:14 AM | Message Detail
The only problem is that his opponent s Link. Link doesn't lose the afterschool vote. :P

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:31:20 AM | Message Detail
Link back with a 16 vote gain.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: TRE Public Account | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:32:59 AM | Message Detail
Cloud just needs to take the after-school block and he's back in this. I'm not counting him out yet.

Link is not going to choke after getting a 2000 vote lead. Cloud might make it closer, but he's not going to win.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:34:06 AM | Message Detail
Also, how well would Mario have to do on Sephiroth to support that AC did not have any effect?

Unless Mario beats Seph, it's fairly self-evident that AC had an enormous effect.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:36:02 AM | Message Detail
Unless Mario beats Seph, it's fairly self-evident that AC had an enormous effect.

No. Sephy is expected to beat Nintendo-boosted Mario without AC. Just barely beating im doesn't figure in any AC boost.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:37:02 AM | Message Detail
Link over 2100 with a 30 vote gain. We should start to see the votes rise in the next 10 minutes or so, the after school vote willl likely sustain 600+ once it hits stride.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:37:53 AM | Message Detail
No. Sephy is expected to beat Nintendo-boosted Mario without AC. Just barely beating im doesn't figure in any AC boost.


No, he's not. Sammy > Sephy, and Mario > Sammy, so obviously Mario > Sephy...unless you believe what Mario did to Sammy was all rSFF?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:39:10 AM | Message Detail
Samus higher than Sephiroth? Based on what? 0_o
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:39:21 AM | Message Detail
No, he's not. Sammy > Sephy, and Mario > Sammy, so obviously Mario > Sephy...unless you believe what Mario did to Sammy was all rSFF?

No, Mario is legitimately stronger than Samus. However, Samus is not stronger than Sephiroth. I don't get where you got that from.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:40:46 AM | Message Detail
Samus higher than Sephiroth? Based on what? 0_o

Spring Contest, of course. Unless you wanna tell me that Ganon is stronger than Crono, which even I have a hard time believing.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: transience | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:41:19 AM | Message Detail
you are nuts. get that Samus > Seph talk out of here, you're basing it on a potential SFF match.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:41:38 AM | Message Detail
Cloud has slowed Link down a tad since 11:00 contest time... look out, citizens! The afterschool vote looms!

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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:42:50 AM | Message Detail
Spring Contest, of course. Unless you wanna tell me that Ganon is stronger than Crono, which even I have a hard time believing.

This is the same Spring Contest that shows Sephiroth > Mario through Bowser/Snake?
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:43:56 AM | Message Detail
you are nuts. get that Samus > Seph talk out of here, you're basing it on a potential SFF match.


Huh? There was SFF in Seph vs. Ganon? WTF are you talking about?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: transience | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:45:18 AM | Message Detail
Samus/Ganon, of course.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:45:31 AM | Message Detail
This is the same Spring Contest that shows Sephiroth > Mario through Bowser/Snake?

The same Snake who had a 15% underperformance on Frog thanks to his sprite? If Bowser overperformed even half that much, Mario would have the match vs. Seph in the bag. As it is, however, the match will probably be pretty close.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:46:07 AM | Message Detail
Spring Contest, of course. Unless you wanna tell me that Ganon is stronger than Crono, which even I have a hard time believing.

...Hello? SSBM SFF? Seems to me that's your problem right there, taking obvious SFF at face value.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:47:05 AM | Message Detail
Samus/Ganon, of course.

I'm not even taking that match into consideration, I'm just talking about the Spring Contest.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:47:57 AM | Message Detail
The same Snake who had a 15% underperformance on Frog thanks to his sprite? If Bowser overperformed even half that much, Mario would have the match vs. Seph in the bag. As it is, however, the match will probably be pretty close.

So you believe in Pic factor but don't believe in SFF? That's rather choosy of you.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:50:21 AM | Message Detail
I'm not even taking that match into consideration, I'm just talking about the Spring Contest.

What possible relation does Ganon have to Mario if you're only looking at the spring contest?
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:56:14 AM | Message Detail
*sighs*

Looks like Link's after school vote is here.

Man, this match really fell behind Link/Cloud 2004, huh?
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:58:21 AM | Message Detail
Will Link never lose again?He will have only 1 loss from Cloud?And if Sephiroth beats Mario,what percentage will he get on Link?Less than 40%?
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From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/20/2005 11:59:51 AM | Message Detail
What do you mean if? Sephiroth is going to defeat Mario tomorrow, I'd stake my LIFE on it.

VENI VENI VENIAS
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~*Ex~Tha*~
"What is most important to you, Cloud? Would you give me the pleasure of taking it away?"
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:05:33 PM | Message Detail
O_O

Oh yeah, baby!

Go after-school vote. ;)

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:06:05 PM | Message Detail
Link's last update was insane.
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:06:38 PM | Message Detail
wow. 150 vote gain in one update.


KB
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:06:58 PM | Message Detail
Thats Link for you.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Mugen no Jyuunin | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:08:37 PM | Message Detail
61.68 - 38.32. O_O

That's... insane. And awesome.

... So much for Cloud even gaining percentage during the afterschool vote, let alone chipping at the lead. <_<

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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:08:42 PM | Message Detail
Or someones cheating. Either way.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:09:49 PM | Message Detail
Samus > Sephiroth

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:10:08 PM | Message Detail
So does this mean Links getting the afterschool vote? Who usually wins it between these two? I don't remember, since the last match was a weekend.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/20/2005 12:10:35 PM | Message Detail
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