...This match is nothing like Mario/Crono... at all. And you should fear about getting attacked for saying that, it's just ridiculously stupid.

XD, did you just make a threat, HM?

That's ****ing delicious.
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George Romero > You.

And how many times have I been wrong?

Frog/Liquid.
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*is Karma Hunter*

Magus/Knuckles?

Probably Master Hand/Kuja, too.
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George Romero > You.

Okay, so Link has an even LARGER lead on Cloud than he did last year at this point. That's being chalked up to the morning vote. Link is expected to have an even LARGER surge than last year due to the "after-school" vote.

Yet Cloud is supposed to be gaining on him sometime soon and potentially take the match?
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Yet Cloud is supposed to be gaining on him sometime soon and potentially take the match?

Maybe he will when HM threatens to slit our throats.
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George Romero > You.

...This match is nothing like Mario/Crono... at all. And you should fear about getting attacked for saying that, it's just ridiculously stupid. Everyone knew, even before the match started, that Link's two biggest times were going to be now and the afterschool vote.

And he's making quick use of them.

The fact that he's doing this now shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Yes, it would have been nice if Cloud could have managed to get a 300 vote lead or so last night in order to make Link's lead smaller, but by no means is that going to kill.

True

Cloud has to weather the storm right now and then use the time in between the morning and afternoon vote (day vote) in order to get this thing back down to a more reasonable level in preparation for the afterschool vote.

By the time the morning vote is over Link should have at least a 800 vote lead. It not like Cloud is going to crush Link with the day vote and the best I think he can do is stall him and take out 200-300 votes

Hell, I would even say that he'll take the lead and gather something small before it arrives. After that, he'll rely on the night vote to either win this or fall short. But by no means is this thing over. Calling it now was just as foolish as saying Link was going to get 55%.

Anything the day vote does Link will take back by the time the night vote comes Link's lead will probably be too big.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

I...I thought we were all aware of how trends differed in school compared to weekends...

In any case, for all this arguing, I still very much doubt Cloud's ability to come back and make this close, much less win the match. Link's got this thing 95% in the bag, IMO. But when the other character has a 5% of coming back, I don't see the logic in calling the outcome of a match...which, reminding me, does what now?
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*is Karma Hunter*

...I can't believe that some actually still think that Cloud has a chance in this. This morning vote for Link is little compared to the afternoon vote Link will get.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

Link will break 53% when the after school vote rolls around, and he'll be able to keep it over 52.5% until the end. Ulti's pick is pretty much out of the question, though. Meh, hopefully tomorrow's match will be more interesting.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/20/2005 7:38:56 AM | #158
...I can't believe that some actually still think that Cloud has a chance in this. This morning vote for Link is little compared to the afternoon vote Link will get.

It's really only HM. He'd still think Cloud had a chance if Link was winning 60-40 right now.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

Frog/Liquid.

I called it for Frog

Magus/Knuckles

Calling it not predicting.

Probably Master Hand/Kuja, too.
I was sleeping while Kuja had the lead and it was 50/50 when I woke up. I later called it for MH.

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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

...I can't believe that some actually still think that Cloud has a chance in this. This morning vote for Link is little compared to the afternoon vote Link will get.

Actually, looking at Mario, his morning and afterschool votes were extremely similar. Now, some of that is due to that he is far more comparatively worse with the first night vote than Link is, but the fact of the matter is that they're not that far apart.
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*is Karma Hunter*

Cloud took back some votes.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

I called it for Frog

Not what I remember you telling me. Besides, I'm *certain* that you called Frog/Master Chief...for BOTH of them.
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*is Karma Hunter*

I...I thought we were all aware of how trends differed in school compared to weekends...

We all know the trends on weekdays differ from weekends. But there's a difference in saying that Cloud will do better in between the morning and after-school vote rather than saying that Cloud WILL be taking the lead back from Link. I've never seen a weekend vote differ THAT much from a weekday vote.

But anyways, it remains to be seen. Right now, I have a tropical storm to outrun. I WILL be back on around 4:00 PM EST. HM had BETTER be right about this.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Not what I remember you telling me. Besides, I'm *certain* that you called Frog/Master Chief...for BOTH of them.

I'm 100% sure I didn't call it for LS, he took the lead at the morning and it was something like 200. I didn't call it for Frog until I got home from the beach. Frog/MC was a weird match, me like everyone in this topic probably called it for both characters at one point. Come on gaining after being down 2400 votes then make a 600 vote lead before losing it all by 7.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Well, I don't think Cloud will be taking the lead back from Link with the day vote...that's an extremely farfetched scenario IMO. But he *will* be cutting the lead, and at the absolute least stalling him. I'd be flabbergasted if he didn't.
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*is Karma Hunter*

One reason Cloud still has a chance *although a small one* is Advent Children. That has to have some sort of effect, although maybe not enough.

Think of the day vote on school days as a night vote, but weaker.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

I'm 100% sure I didn't call it for LS, he took the lead at the morning and it was something like 200. I didn't call it for Frog until I got home from the beach.

Liquid Snake took the lead several times in the match, including near the tail end.

Frog/MC was a weird match, me like everyone in this topic probably called it for both characters at one point. Come on gaining after being down 2400 votes then make a 600 vote lead before losing it all by 7.

Oh, you mean UNEXPECTED OUTCOMES ACTUALLY HAPPEN?!?!

-_-
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*is Karma Hunter*

Here are some preliminary adjusted stats. The Zebes and Devil divisions have to be taken with a grain of salt, it goes without saying.

4 Samus Aran 42.36
5 Mario Mario 41.79
6 Crono 38.51
7 Megaman 37.59
8 Sonic the Hedgehog 37.33
9 Solid Snake 35.9
10 Bowser 35.48
11 Vincent Valentine 34.55
12 Ganondorf Dragmire 34.18
13 Kirby 33.98
14 Zelda 32.74
15 Tifa Lockheart 32.61
16 Squall Leonhart 31.72
17 Auron 31.38
18 Zero 31.16
19 Luigi Mario 30.42
20 Master Chief 29.98
21 Dante Sparda 29.53
22 Donkey Kong 29.51
23 Knuckles the Echidna 29.31
24 Ryu (SF) 29.02
25 Yoshi 29.01
26 Sora 28.93
27 Janus "Magus" Zeal 28.81
28 Tidus 28.77
29 Leon Kennedy 26.7
30 Yuna 26.52
31 Vivi Ornitier 26.47
32 Alucard Tepes 25.83
33 Rikku 25.77
34 Frog 25.37
35 Riku 24.52
36 Chun-Li 24.2
37 Diablo 23.53
38 Ryu Hayabusa 23.06
39 Kratos (GoW) 22.98
40 Ness 22.71
41 Tommy Vercetti 22.58
42 Gordon Freeman 22.13
43 Kefka Palazzo 22.07
44 Sam Fisher 20.79
45 KOS-MOS 20.69
46 Carl Johnson 20.38
47 Kratos Aurion 20.35
48 Pac-Man 20.3
49 Revolver Ocelot 19.79
50 CATS 18.68
51 Conker 18.06
52 Zidane Tribal 18.03
53 Big Boss 17.91
54 Jin Kazama 17.84
55 Agent 47 16.94
56 Cecil Harvey 16.85
57 Terra Branford 16.83
58 Lloyd Irving 16.63
59 Joanna Dark 15.99
60 Geno 15.96
61 King of all Cosmos 15.8
62 Laharl 15.28
63 Albert Wesker 15.11
64 Vyse 14.3
65 Sarah Kerrigan 13.48
66 Manny Calavera 11.43
67 Yuri Hyuga 10.74
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

Liquid Snake took the lead several times in the match, including near the tail end.

Frog had the night vote.

Oh, you mean UNEXPECTED OUTCOMES ACTUALLY HAPPEN?!?!

There was no stats ready to explain what would've happened
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Frog had the night vote.

Like you knew that.

There was no stats ready to explain what would've happened

Bull, the characters had been seen in action at LEAST once before, which is more than can be said for Frog/LS.
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*is Karma Hunter*

Frog/MC was a weird match, me like everyone in this topic probably called it for both characters at one point. Come on gaining after being down 2400 votes then make a 600 vote lead before losing it all by 7

Was I the only one who DID see that coming? Or was I the only one who understood the concept of the XBox demographic's afternoon vote? The only thing unexpected was that Chief was able to go 50/50 with Frog AFTER Frog came back at night. But that would most likely be attributed to mass vote stuffing.

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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

On a side note, that next to most recent update for Link was absolutely insane, though it looks that Cloud may have just been a bit late picking up his vote total there.
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*is Karma Hunter*

Mario is legitimately stronger than Samus this year. I don't think you should adjust Samus to be over Mario.

And with that, I'm REALLY leaving to outrun this storm. I'm just letting it get close because I live life on the edge. <_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Like you knew that.

I used Crono and Magus for Frog and Snake for LS and both have similair voting patterns, but CT is stronger with the second night vote

Bull, the characters had been seen in action at LEAST once before, which is more than can be said for Frog/LS.

I knew MC would gain during the day, but there was no way he could've came back by that much that soon. Frog had the night vote, but he barely pulled it off from LS so I thought he wasn't that good compare to Crono and Magus
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

As I said... to be taken with a grain of salt. Anything that doesn't put Samus at 42-43% puts her at 38%. I'm out of ideas.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

Holy ****, yo.

Did you see that?

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

A match I got wrong by calling it was SC/WW.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Feel proud... a match I got wrong by calling it was EVERY MATCH EVER.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

I also got Sonic/Samus I wrong
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Link is still gaining, he might even break 52% before I have to go to school in 2 hours.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

I used Crono and Magus for Frog and Snake for LS and both have similair voting patterns, but CT is stronger with the second night vote

Crono and Magus' voting patterns are about as different as night and day--literally. Crono is better at night, but very good in the day as well, while Magus absolutely stinks it up. It's like assuming Tifa would follow the trends of her FFVII brethren when it's nearly not the case. You had nothing to judge that match with, and if it had been held on a different day or if Liquid had started his final comeback a little earlier you would have been proven dead wrong. Which is basically the tale that can be told for most of the close matches that you've 'called'. I've 'called' matches like that as well (though never to the degree you do it), such as Sonic/Mega Man of this year. But even though Mega eventually pulled it out, I have not the gall nor the arrogance to justify that pick in retrospect. That match could have just as easily have gone to Sonic, and if it had I would have ended up with egg all over my face. Just because a pick works out barely doesn't mean that it's a justified one. Otherwise, we might as well call all the matches after the first 30 seconds of the poll.

I knew MC would gain during the day, but there was no way he could've came back by that much that soon. Frog had the night vote, but he barely pulled it off from LS so I thought he wasn't that good compare to Crono and Magus

Which was, again, appraising a character based on their performances with an unknown, which burned you. Twice.
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*is Karma Hunter*

Damn, that pattern of stall, stall, spike is getting annoying. If you want to make a move, Cloud, at least don't **** up getting it started!
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

I made a post saying if Mega Man broke 1000 he would win, but when I came home I wanted Sonic to win.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

btw if anyone thinks I'm bragging I'm not I'm just stating what I've said before.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Uh oh, Cloud's stalled Link twice again. I think we all know what happens next...
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*is Karma Hunter*

Link + billion votes. >:)

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

Well, not a billion, but painful nonetheless. Like I said before, things are looking especially dire for Cloud. He'd better hope he can ride out that afterschool vote when it comes and save himself with the second night vote, because it's ALL uphill from here.
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*is Karma Hunter*

Last year, votes were 23,746 at 6:15 and this year they are 24,014. Hopefully they pull ahead more later today.

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Second rule of war! He who holds the land can conquer Heaven! - Magatsu Taito

Now, can we all agree that the idea of Cloud coming back is silly at best?

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

Well, this is surprising. It's...pretty much the same match as last year.

Advent Children cancels out Twilight Princess hype? o_O
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Or TP hype has no affect, because hype never has an affect.

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~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~
Cheer up Emo kids.

Pretty much, yeah. It's more the Nintendo boost than anything.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless

Link is ahead of last year's pace. Granted, Cloud will probably cut into this percentage over the next five hours, but expect the after school vote to be big, and expect it to be for Link.
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SC2K5 Guru Contest: Where _______ kicked my ass.

522 vote lead at the same time last year, 905 vote lead this year.

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Second rule of war! He who holds the land can conquer Heaven! - Magatsu Taito

Whoa... I just noticed we're ahead of last year's pace, and this isn't even a weekend match.
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SC2K5 Guru Contest: Where _______ kicked my ass.

I'm thrilled.

125,000+, please. =)

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Second rule of war! He who holds the land can conquer Heaven! - Magatsu Taito