Mario's lead is now exactly 2000.
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You know, I kinda wish Sephiroth were in the main bracket this year. If Samus were indeed rSFF'd, it would be more likely that both Mario and Samus would have a shot at Sephiroth, thus making it that much more likely that someone could take him down. Plus, the match could have potentially happened before the AC release, giving them the best shot possible to do it.

...as it stands, though... = /
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For the record, Crono needs to get below 46% for Kirby > Squall.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
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Mario wont beat Sephiroth.


KB

And geez, he just may get it. Mario's going on a second tear right now.

I shudder to think what happens when the afterschool vote proper hits...
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Mario wont beat Sephiroth.

*sigh* No one listens to me, do they?
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Who is better with the day vote, Snake or Crono? Assuming it's Snake, yeah, Mario should just explode soon.

I hope Sephiroth has a good enough lead by the time the day vote hits that he doesn't get a scare.
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Well...

you said it so drawn out and bland.


^_^

KB

Well, at least the good thing about the ToC is that we should see some high vote totals, at least for the first two. I'd expect Sephiroth/Mario to break 110,000.
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Snake is absolutely pitiful with the day vote. Crono by far.

However, it wasn't a school day on Mario/Snake. Mario made most of his gains in the morning. That hasn't happened here, but soon will when school lets out and Mario will explode in a much more concentrated voting bloc.
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Crono is better with it, actually. The day vote is how Mega Man pulled away from Snake.

I hope Sephiroth has a good enough lead by the time the day vote hits that he doesn't get a scare.

Sephiroth's day vote is exceptional, too. He did take it from Bowser and Ganon, after all.
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Estuans interius
ira vehementi
Estuans interius
ira vehementi
Sephiroth
Sephiroth

Estuans interius
ira vehementi
Estuans interius
ira vehementi
Sephiroth
Sephiroth

Sors immanis
Et inanis
Sors immanis
Et inanis

Estuans interius
ira vehementi
Estuans interius
ira vehementi
Sephiroth
Sephiroth

Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias

Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias

Veni, veni, venias, Gloriosa
Ne me mori facias Generosa
Veni, veni, venias, Gloriosa
Ne me mori facias Generosa

Veni, veni, venias, Gloriosa
Ne me mori facias Generosa
Veni, veni, venias, Gloriosa
Ne me mori facias Generosa

Sephiroth
Sephiroth

Well, it's hard not to take the day vote from your opponents when you do so comparatively worse with the first night vote...man, the boards loathe Sephy.
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Heh, I liked the redone version of OWA in Advent Children.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Lilium > Liberi Fatali > One Winged Angel.

Or so I say.

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You know, I kinda wish Sephiroth were in the main bracket this year. If Samus were indeed rSFF'd, it would be more likely that both Mario and Samus would have a shot at Sephiroth, thus making it that much more likely that someone could take him down. Plus, the match could have potentially happened before the AC release, giving them the best shot possible to do it.

Agreed... I don't like the whole ToC idea, but then again, I don't like Link and Cloud being in the main bracket...

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Don't you ever put that in this topic again!!!
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blah, Crono's getting his ass kicked. no surprise, but blah anyway. this is incredibly boring to watch. oh well, Clink tomorrow.
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Well, it's hard not to take the day vote from your opponents when you do so comparatively worse with the first night vote...man, the boards loathe Sephy.

Exactly. Quite frankly, if Mario doesn't have a lead going into the day vote, he's not winning. Sephiroth will slowly but surely pull away.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

You know a Squall increase isnt out of the question.

Many of you think that Vincent gained only from the AC Leak against Crono, But Squall could be stronger than he was last year.


KB

I know last years stats really aren't reliable, but what would Seph be expected to get on Crono?

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Mario will have a lead vs. Seph. 500-500 vs. Bowser, anyone?
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Oh, I know he'll have a lead at first, but if he can't maintain it when day hits, he's not beating Seph.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Definitely wrong topic, Leonhart. I was in the wrong window, actually. >_<

If Link did catch some of the (apparent) shift towards Nintendo and Cloud didn't boost more than a percent or two, the morning is going to be rather ugly for that match.

Hopefully AC has Cloud keeping it close. I'd like to either see Cloud keeping it very tight (Frog/Liquid Snake tight would be more than I could dream of...) or seeing Link smash him. 52.5%-ish for Link would be a rather boring match.

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Of course Mario will have a lead...it's just a question of if he'll hold it into the morning.

And I really, *really* doubt that Squall increased, especially as much as AC'd Vincent suggests on Crono. One KH2 screenshot, as you have suggested, is not going to cause that kind of a boost.
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Or maybe Squall was just that strong to begin with.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

He was also in a GBA game, along with the KH2 hype. I think is not impossible he increased some.


KB

That second statement was to KB.
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/19/2005 11:54:13 AM | #070
You know a Squall increase isnt out of the question.

Many of you think that Vincent gained only from the AC Leak against Crono, But Squall could be stronger than he was last year.


KB

Do you have any idea how high that puts Knuckles and Dante? Not to mention Magus...
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Well, you've seen how high Kirby is, and he faced Squall last year, heh.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

I don't doubt that Squall was likely underrated in 2k3, and is certainly behind SFF in 2k4, but again, I don't see it to the extent that Vincent suggests, especially since I would expect KHF degradation as time goes on.

And I would expect CoM to do *nothing* for Squall other than perhaps buoy past strength a bit, as his role in it is virtually nonexistent. Quite the badass look, though.
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It's not as if we had a good gauge on Squall anyway after last year with Cloud... though he was in 2K3. It's possible though I highly, highly doubt it.

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It goes back to Link/Samus SFF, and how much you think there was there, if any at all.
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Well, you've seen how high Kirby is, and he faced Squall last year, heh.

I like to think this site being so incredibly Nintendo crazed, and Kirby: Canvas Curse being one of two must-haves for the DS are responsible for that.

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True actually... I forgot about Samus/Link for a second there. After seeing what Mario did to Samus, I would think Link SFF'd him, to what degree, I don't know.

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especially since I would expect KHF degradation as time goes on.

Maybe, but with a new KH would make up for any loss and CoM would help him to a small extent as well.

KB

Heh, and based on the current stats, Knuckles would be expected to get 44.52% on Solid Snake. Man, imagine how many people would've been calling for his head against Bowser if that had happened...

For the record, Knuckles would have to be around 34.5% on Mario for Snake to get 60/40 against him. In other words, if that holds true, Vincent did receive a noticeable benefit from AC.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Well then, what would a Squall/Vince match look like after AC.

KB

well it looks as though my winning streak extends itself to 3 contest in a row for predicting the correct.
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Vincent would get 56.27% on Squall if the Snake/Knuckles ratio held firm.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

vote totals seem so low for a final though.

and tomorrow we get a cool link/cloud match
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Ok. do you really think Vincent gained 10% from the AC leak?

Do you really think Squall would only get 34% on Crono?


KB

Well, he'd get about 36.5% on Mario if that ratio is intact, so he'd actually get somewhere around 38-39% on Crono.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

So either Squall is 5% stronger than we are giving him credit for, or Vincent "Gain" from AC wasnt as big as many are suspect of?


KB

No, those would be the same thing.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

what would be the same thing?


KB

Saying Squall is 5% stronger than we think would be the same thing as saying Vincent didn't get anything from AC.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

If Squall is 5% stronger than we are giving him credit for the AC gain isn't as big as suspected.

OR

If Squall isn't 5% stronger than we are giving him credit for the AC gain is as big as suspected.

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i'm currently 352 with mario cloud and sephiroth winning the next matches. do i have a chance at making the top fifty?
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I doubt it... if you had Mario > Seph maybe, but I doubt it.

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