Sir Crono is highly offended by your rush to judgment.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Mario is going to win because I said so.
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MARIOWNED

Sir Crono clearly has the right idea.

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“I think my burden has lightened… Maybe I dragged it along so much that it wore down.” – Cloud Strife

So what is everyone expecting mario to get tomorrow? I'm expecting anywhere from 52.5-55% myself.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

I want Crono to win, but...its not happening.

What we need in this contest is Musashi! I just bought Samurai Legend Musashi and its awesome.
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

Sir Crono is highly offended at your thoughts that he will be defeated so easily.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Tequilla Gundam thinks Crono will win.

Therefore Mario wins. That's perfect logic!
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MARIOWNED

Why does everyone think Mario has gained so much? Honestly, his match against Zero was the only impressive one. Him vs Ness and Samus only proved that he is the prince of SFF (Link is still the king), which has no relevance to the upcoming final.
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"Let's mosey"
Summer Contest Score: 152/160, Predicted Winner: Crono

Hey Leonhart, how well does Mario have to do on Crono for Kirby > Crono?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

And Rikku > Crono?

>_>
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

Him vs Ness and Samus only proved that he is the prince of SFF (Link is still the king), which has no relevance to the upcoming final.

Forgot about Snake? Snake's obviously a lot stronger than he was last year, or he would've lost to Zelda...and Bowser...and Kirby.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

It'd take too much for Kirby to be stronger than Crono.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Mario would need 59.55% for Kirby = Crono, which is rather unlikely.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

Forgot about Snake? Snake's obviously a lot stronger than he was last year, or he would've lost to Zelda...and Bowser...and Kirby.

Umm... No

Snake absolutely disappointed in all of his matches except for Manny & Sora, and he did so-so against Mario.
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"Let's mosey"
Summer Contest Score: 152/160, Predicted Winner: Crono

Why does everyone think Mario has gained so much? Honestly, his match against Zero was the only impressive one.

You don't think what he did to ness and samus was impressive? SFF aside getting 60% on samus is nothing to scoff at.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

What Mario did to Samus was impressive, but it was still SFF.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Snake absolutely disappointed in all of his matches except for Manny & Sora

He definitely didn't underperform on zelda.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

Snake absolutely disappointed in all of his matches except for Manny & Sora, and he did so-so against Mario.

LOL
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.

Snake absolutely disappointed in all of his matches

I barely find being spring Bowser dissapointing and a possible increased Zelda by a good amount dissapointing either. Snake isn't anything to scoff at right now. He's at least at his 2003 levels.
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MARIOWNED

What Mario did to Samus was impressive, but it was still SFF.

It couldn't of been any more sff then what link did. It's not like the match would be 50/50 without sff, and even if it would be that's still impressive.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

What we need in this contest is Musashi! I just bought Samurai Legend Musashi and its awesome.

No. BRAVE FENCER Musashi is awesome. Samurai Legend Musashi is mediocre. I rescinded Musashi's nomination this year just for the existence of that game...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

But SFF is still SFF. It's not indicative of true strength.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

I also like how Snake doing so-so against Mario is a bad reflection on...well, Mario.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.

Mario would need 59.55% for Kirby = Crono, which is rather unlikely.

Damn, that's stretching it, even for me. Oh well, I can still dream...who wouldn't love seeing Kirby at #3?

Snake absolutely disappointed in all of his matches except for Manny & Sora, and he did so-so against Mario.

WTF? His match vs. Manny was his most disappointing by far. Against Bowser wasn't terribly impressive, I'll give you that, but it was still pretty good considering that he had his sprite to contend with.

What Mario did to Samus was impressive, but it was still SFF.

Yeah, and it puts Mario above 42%, far out of Crono's reach.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Yeah, and it puts Mario above 42%, far out of Crono's reach.

However, Snake does not.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

who wouldn't love seeing Kirby at #3?

Me. That'd be disgusting.

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“I think my burden has lightened… Maybe I dragged it along so much that it wore down.” – Cloud Strife

Oh man... Michael Moore fart contest.
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"Let's mosey"
Summer Contest Score: 152/160, Predicted Winner: Crono

But SFF is still SFF. It's not indicative of true strength.

We've seen samus get sff'd before by link. Do you think mario is capable of sffing her harder then link?
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

No. BRAVE FENCER Musashi is awesome. Samurai Legend Musashi is mediocre. I rescinded Musashi's nomination this year just for the existence of that game...

Aw...it looks cool so far...
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

RPGuy said that Mega Man couldn't have SFF'd Yoshi more than Link did, and thus Sonic had no chance. Let's not go there because you really have no idea, when it comes down to it. It's baseless assumption.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

But baseless assumptions is what we do best!
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

Yeah, and it puts Mario above 42%, far out of Crono's reach.

However, Snake does not.

Oooo, Snake 2k3 (which is Snake's floor, IMO) puts down to a pitiful 41.9%. Definitely within Crono's reach there, despite Crono's showing no signs of even being close to 40%.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Do you think mario is capable of sffing her harder then link?

That would not surprise me in the least. The majority of his performance against Samus WAS SFF. I really don't see him being but a smidge higher than her.

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“I think my burden has lightened… Maybe I dragged it along so much that it wore down.” – Cloud Strife

Aw...it looks cool so far...

I guess you don't notice how slow and repetitive the gameplay is compared to the original. Don't get me wrong, the game LOOKS cool as hell. But it just doesn't have the same feel as the first game.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

*puts Mario down
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

despite Crono's showing no signs of even being close to 40%

Other than that Diablo guy from the Spring Contest. Extrapolating through him puts Crono up there.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

I guess you don't notice how slow and repetitive the gameplay is compared to the original. Don't get me wrong, the game LOOKS cool as hell. But it just doesn't have the same feel as the first game.

Actually, I'm still in the tutorial. >_> <_<
Never played the original, though it already seems repetitive. =/
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

That would not surprise me in the least. The majority of his performance against Samus WAS SFF. I really don't see him being but a smidge higher than her.

Yeah, but he also completely destroyed zero. That's got to at least add evidence to him being a lot stronger then usual this year.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

Heh, I just realized that this is Sir Crono's Veteran's day. Maybe it's a sign.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Putting Snake at his 2003 value puts Mario right near Samus's value--around 39.11%, I believe. That means Mario is projected to win with 52.46%.

That's nothing that Crono cannot overcome.

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“I think my burden has lightened… Maybe I dragged it along so much that it wore down.” – Cloud Strife

Sir who what day?
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MARIOWNED

Sir Crono became a Veteran today, that is to say.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

I believe his performance on zero (if we assume hes constant which his performances indicated) put him alittle below samus, if not almost right at her level.
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee

He hasn't exactly been looking capable of overcoming something like that. Besides mario's absolute floor still looks to be ahead of where crono likely is. I'm done for now, I'll just wait and see tomorrow. I doubt crono has it in him though.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy

Other than that Diablo guy from the Spring Contest. Extrapolating through him puts Crono up there.

Extrapolating Mario through Diablo puts him way higher. I don't think that he's too reliable.

Incidentally, what's Diablo expected to get on Kefka? It'd be amusing if their ratio was the same as in the Spring.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Yeah, but he also completely destroyed zero. That's got to at least add evidence to him being a lot stronger then usual this year.

Adjusted Zero puts Mario on level with Sephiroth, whereas unadjusted Zero puts Mario right around Samus's value. Just to note. The latter falls in line with 2003 Snake.

But to put Mario on that Sephiroth level, he'd be projected to get ~56% against Crono. I find that to be extremely unlikely myself.

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“I think my burden has lightened… Maybe I dragged it along so much that it wore down.” – Cloud Strife

Extrapolating Mario through Diablo puts him way higher. I don't think that he's too reliable.

No kidding. Ganondorf's on the receiving end of double SFF.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."

Ganondorf's on the receiving end of double SFF.

And just when I thought it couldn't get as bad as it did last year for Ganon...

As for adjusting Samus, I guess I would be alright with adjusting her equal, or slightly under Mario.

And really, relying on Spring Diablo is silly. It's obvious to see that he wasn't at Spring Contest level.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Crono vs. Mega Man - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Crono (108/144)

the other thing is we really have no clue how strong samus is this year. She beat Yuri, a newcomer who was obviously fodder anyway, Frog, who was apparantly overrated alot the problem is we dont know how much, ganondorf which was without a doubt affected by SFF, and then promptly beaten 60-40 by mario in a match decided completely by SFF.
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee

It's obvious to see that he wasn't at Spring Contest level.

Perhaps it would be if Mega Man had beat down Sonic. As it stands, we can't really say.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."