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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 251
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:40:20 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:40:39 PM | Message Detail
Thing is, if it wasn't for Advent Children, I'd think long and hard before taking Tifa over Yoshi.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:41:37 PM | Message Detail
I think we should get to vote on who gets to be in the analysis crew. good lord.

people are saying this match is going to be painfully close. I get the feeling it's going to be anticlimactic.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:41:38 PM | Message Detail
I'm getting the same vibe that I got for Vincent/Squall that I am for this match. I honestly have no clue who's going to win, and that it's going to be a toss-up.

And yeah, the things Vlado says...
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Crono vs. Vincent - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Crono (92/112)
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:43:06 PM | Message Detail
Nominating people based on past performances and what not for the analysist crew sounds like a good idea. Some people just don't deserve to be there.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:44:34 PM | Message Detail
It'd been tougher, yeah, but I still would have taken Tifa over Yoshi; I know he showed signs of increasing against Laharl and Pac-Man, but Luigi turned what should have been a loss against KOS-MOS into a near-doubling that outdid Ryu. I'm not saying I'd take Luigi over Yoshi, per say, but I think they're very close this year...

...unless Mega Man didn't over-perform against Yoshi, in which case Luigi smokes his ****.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:44:36 PM | Message Detail
I think we should get to vote on who gets to be in the analysis crew. good lord.

I promise I'm not going to be so...open next time.

Besides, alot of people want in, so it's going to be tough to narrow it down.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Crono vs. Vincent - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Crono (92/112)
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:46:25 PM | Message Detail
I can think of a few people who post regularly in here that would be good choices.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:47:39 PM | Message Detail
I make analysises (is that the right way to say it plural?) for myself before contests anyways, heh; I should have really thought to myself and realized it'd been nice and easy to send 'em to ya.

There's always next year.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:49:33 PM | Message Detail
it's analyses, I think. you and Leon would be my first choices.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:49:52 PM | Message Detail
That also makes me wonder: How long will Cjay hold these contests?
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:52:13 PM | Message Detail
Good question. I remember saying if Tifa and Vincent took this one by storm it'd be over, but they didn't.

Off-topic... your opinion on a certain website saying their source said the Revolution controller sucked, when it turned out that source was Kutaragi?
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless
From: goku z | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:52:54 PM | Message Detail
I think anyone who finishes in the top 25 in this years contest should be able to joing the crew if they wish to. >_>
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Summer Contest 2005 Winner: Mario
Mario will SFF Samus, and pull it out against Crono.
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:54:34 PM | Message Detail
I think we need a year off from characters. a summer game contest would be suh-weet.

we've had four of these, five if you count the villain contest. I enjoy them and all, but if we had a year off, it'd be hella unpredictable. and that'd be great to see.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:55:24 PM | Message Detail
That's what I've wanted since the last off-season... ditching the spring contests altogether, and alternating between games and characters.
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What online fan couldn't get behind Trevor Murdoch? I mean, finally, a wrestler with our physique! -Sean Carless
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:56:11 PM | Message Detail
Kutaragi has no place to comment about controller designs.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:56:56 PM | Message Detail
I think we need a year off from characters. a summer game contest would be suh-weet.

NOMINATE BIG RIGS AND RESIDENT EVIL 4 FOR SC2K6!
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:00:08 PM | Message Detail
a game contest would be extremely unpredictable. for one, it's been two years since we've had one, and for two, the last one was riddled with games that shared consoles. if you make a real bracket, it would be just awesome to watch. CT vs. SSBM? FFT vs. Metroid Prime? MGS2 vs. Super Metroid? I just picked three random matches there, but I bet there's no consensus there whatsoever besides for MP.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:00:26 PM | Message Detail
I would rather hope to see how a Mega man game would perform in the game contest.

And then also maybe verify Super Mario 64's strength.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:01:26 PM | Message Detail
Appreciate the props transience.


As for character-contests taking a break...hey, I can work with that for one summer, but things are gonna be hella-unpredictable next year anyways. We've never had a big-name console be released since the contests began here, and now we're gonna have three. I understand that LoZ:TP, MP3, SSBO, Mario 128, KH2, FF12, and Halo 3 are all supposed to be out by next summer, too (probably with some other big-name games). Let's not forget that it's now somewhat-possible for Gordon Freeman to win a match, too...

...I want another Game Contest, too, but not at the expense of shoving the Character Contest aside next summer.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:01:34 PM | Message Detail
One more thing I'd like to point out is that maybe the new school games are more popular than the old school ones?
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:04:18 PM | Message Detail
Oh, not to mention FF:AC will be released in America and Vincent could be interesting to watch due to it, DoC, and probably KH2.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:04:28 PM | Message Detail
I don't think a MM title would do so hot. I'd hate to think which one you'd choose. I'd go with MM2 or 3, but I think it'd lose to a bunch of modern games. I love MM2 and 3, though.

I also think the new console titles are overblown. who's the strongest new character from the 128 bit era? Auron? it'll obviously help out the classic characters who get new games, but it usually takes a while before they get a title. I'd hate to see what SSBO does to the contest if it comes out with the revolution.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:19:49 PM | Message Detail
Why did Ulti's analysis consist of bashing the characters for two paragraphs and then giving an arbitrary percentage? o_O
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:24:41 PM | Message Detail
FYI, Vincent just took an update by 12. Here's to hoping he can keep that up.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:26:00 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Ulti's written a real analysis all year. hopefully he's savin' 'em for the PCA.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:26:26 PM | Message Detail
Now another; he took off four that time. Was this about the time he started to "take off" against Squall?
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:26:57 PM | Message Detail
2 updates now, actually. If he can keep the lead under 9292 in the next five minutes he officially wins a 15 minute update (I don't know many he's won so far, but any are impressive when you remember Crono held Mario to 3, IIRC).
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:27:26 PM | Message Detail
This is a bad performance by Crono. Aeris > Tifa > Vincent until proven otherwise. (That's before all of the new games Vincent is getting.)
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:28:34 PM | Message Detail
Well, again, this could be Advent Children, but I just don't see it doing that much...
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:30:31 PM | Message Detail
What's up with Ulti always bashing the Sonic series? Besides Sonic Heroes, all of Sonic's game have actually been GOOD! Didn't he only JUST pick up Sonic Adventure 2 no more than 2 months ago? Would he rather just have Sonic completely disappear from the gaming industry while Mario and Co. have every type of title and spinoff imaginable? >_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:31:22 PM | Message Detail
And Crono puts Vincent's delusions of winning that update to rest...
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:31:54 PM | Message Detail
But the Mario spin-offs are actually good.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:32:57 PM | Message Detail
in my mind, all of 'em are poor spinoffs. Mega Man 2/3 beat any Sonic or Mario game, so my vote be for MM.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:35:39 PM | Message Detail
Mario spin-offs are the best spin-offs ever made, you can't deny that.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:35:58 PM | Message Detail
Eh, I couldn't ever fathom voting Mega Man over Sonic. StH3+S&K owns anything the Mega franchise ever did, and despite the growing pains, Sonic has actually made a successfully consistent transition into 3D, for better or worse. Hell, if they had just made all the stages in SA2 Sonic/Shadow stages, I'd have been completely sold.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:37:19 PM | Message Detail
The Mario spinoffs are indeed awesome, but the fact that I know they're coming at the expense of a true followup to the next big Mario title angers me. That and the Mario Party series. They need to stop milking that and let it die.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:46:12 PM | Message Detail
I personally think Sonic is stronger this year than he was in 2003 or 2004. I think that Tifa, Aeris, and Vincent are all in the same general area. I'm banking more on Sonic being stronger than Mega Man being weaker here, though he has shown a couple of signs of that.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:49:25 PM | Message Detail
I hope you guys aren't alluding to me getting booted out of the analysis crew <_<

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 109/120 (Kefka, Magus (x3), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:50:33 PM | Message Detail
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6307/mariosnake1av.jpg

Polygons are a lot harder to work with than sprites, mostly because I'm stuck digging around the Internet to find pictures rather than taking them myself. Any suggestions on how I could improve this?
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:52:16 PM | Message Detail
What is that thing in the middle of the picture?
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:53:10 PM | Message Detail
Uh...wrong sides?
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:53:13 PM | Message Detail
nah, I like your analysis, tnote.

and man, the Revolution controller is, um, something.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:54:01 PM | Message Detail
It's supposed to be Mario's fireball and Snake's gunshot smoke, but I had to make half of the fireball and most of the smoke from scratch and I'm not particularly good at that kind of thing.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:54:21 PM | Message Detail
Something indeed.
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"Stay there for me, trapped in memories."
"I...I won't become a memory."
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:54:28 PM | Message Detail
Well guys, take a look at Nintendo's "revolutionary" controller:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782

I just died a little inside. Say goodbye to any multi-platform games, Nintendo.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:57:20 PM | Message Detail
BTW, SSBO is officially going to suck because Nintendo will try to "Revolutionize" it. Can you imagine playing SSBM with that thing?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:59:01 PM | Message Detail
Wait... that's not a joke article? That is what the "controller" will look like? Pardon me if I do not get in line to purchase a Revolution.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 109/120 (Kefka, Magus (x3), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/15/2005 7:59:41 PM | Message Detail
*sighs at Revolution controller*

I don't want new ways to play my games. I like the way I've been playing my games for the past 20+ years...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 8:00:36 PM | Message Detail
It could work, but Nintendo needs to get their heads out of their asses and realize that the 'nunchucks' thing is a really stupid idea. What they need is to just take the remote part, and allow it to be fitted into a bigger 'controller' that has the traditional control we're used to. So you can play games regularly, or detach the remote portion to utilize the 'revolutionary' game style. Everyone wins.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
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