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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 250
From: Tequilla Gundam
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:30:02 PM | Message Detail
Ulti is just mad that me and Chiri runs this ish!
I gotta stay high till I die!
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I gotta stay high till I die!
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From: transience
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:30:15 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Magus over the Chief.
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From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:31:26 PM | Message Detail
I'd take the Chief over Magus, though sadly. T'would have been heart-wrenching to see.
Oh, and go Snake! You'll break 1000 yet!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
Oh, and go Snake! You'll break 1000 yet!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: therealmnm
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:31:56 PM | Message Detail
If Mario and Samus had the exact same fanbase, Samus would've won without question.
Now, if Samus had only the Nintendo fanbase, she would be way weaker than Mario, to the point where she would be SFFed horribly.
Huh?! *Is confused*
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
Now, if Samus had only the Nintendo fanbase, she would be way weaker than Mario, to the point where she would be SFFed horribly.
Huh?! *Is confused*
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Lopen
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:32:19 PM | Message Detail
Well then, I hope it happens next year. Heheh.
For the record, I'd take Master Chief over Knuckles in a bit of a nail biter.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
For the record, I'd take Master Chief over Knuckles in a bit of a nail biter.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: Sir Bormun
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:32:21 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Magus over the Chief, though that'd be a close one. Still, the
Chief's done badly against lesser known characters before, and I still
say Magus>Frog.
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I can't think of anything to put here, but I can't just leave it blank, can I?
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I can't think of anything to put here, but I can't just leave it blank, can I?
From: Haste2
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:33:14 PM | Message Detail
Oops...I meant, if Samus got as much strength from the Nintendo fanbase
as Mario she would've...well, maybe not WIN, but make it close.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:33:50 PM | Message Detail
I knew the match would never be inquestion despite what Bowser was
doing during the day vote. Coming back from 2100 votes is hard and can
only be done by people who have strong day votes or 2nd night votes,
which Bowser is none.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:33:59 PM | Message Detail
I've siad it before, I'll say it again: I'd take Bowser over Ganon in a direct match.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Tequilla Gundam
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:34:07 PM | Message Detail
Knux > Chief > Magus imo.
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From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:34:08 PM | Message Detail
I'm pretty sure bandwagoned Magus > bandwagoned Frog > Magus >
Frog. I'd take the Chief over Magus with Halo 2 behind him.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:34:48 PM | Message Detail
Bowser beats Ganondorf. Argument over (no, not really, but I'd like to think my claims are POWERFUL ENOUGH TO END ARGUMENTS).
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From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:35:14 PM | Message Detail
There isn't much room between Knuckles and Magus for the Chief to
land...but I do admit it would be harder to take him over Knux.
I'm really eager to see Vincent/Crono now.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
I'm really eager to see Vincent/Crono now.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Sir Bormun
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:35:41 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Ganon over Bowser, but not with a large amount of confidence. Nintendo SFF is fickle.
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I can't think of anything to put here, but I can't just leave it blank, can I?
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I can't think of anything to put here, but I can't just leave it blank, can I?
From: Lopen
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:35:50 PM | Message Detail
Yeah I'd also take Bowser over Ganon directly... heck I'd take Zelda over him and strongly consider taking Kirby over him at this point.
I probably would, because I loves the upsets.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
I probably would, because I loves the upsets.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:36:48 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Zelda over Ganondorf as well, although I doubt I'd put that faith in Kirby.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:37:49 PM | Message Detail
Personally, I wouldn't take Ganondorf over Sonic. He did 3% worse
against two common Blue Blur opponents (one of them merely a month or
two apart). I'm still hoping for a Sonic win in a couple of days.
Either way, I just want an instant classic in that match. It just has
the feel of a match that should be that way.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: transience
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:38:19 PM | Message Detail
I'd feel more confident in Zelda > Ganon than I would Bowser Ganon.
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From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:38:49 PM | Message Detail
Yes, Blue Blur v. Blue Bomber should be an epic. I wonder very much why it's taken so long for it to happen?
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:39:38 PM | Message Detail
Well, Samus and Sephiroth are why it didn't happen in 2002.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: Dranze
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:39:46 PM | Message Detail
Meh, Sonic > Ganondorf.
He did better on a partially linked Diablo, give me a break.
He did better on a partially linked Diablo, give me a break.
From: transience
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:39:59 PM | Message Detail
speaking of fickle, I change my mind three times a day of MM/Sonic. I just can't see Sonic losing, for some reason.
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From: ShadowOwns
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:40:50 PM | Message Detail
another epic that should have taken place by now is mario vs sonic. But
IMO its more of a finals match then a final 4 or elite 8 match
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Sonic The Hedgehog's road to the best final possible:
20XX Division Champ: (1) MegaMan
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Sonic The Hedgehog's road to the best final possible:
20XX Division Champ: (1) MegaMan
From: Dranze
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:41:57 PM | Message Detail
Right now, I'm hoping for a Mario vs Sonic finals..but we probably won't see it anyway..
Stupid Mega Man...
Stupid Crono...
Stupid Mega Man...
Stupid Crono...
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:41:57 PM | Message Detail
Mario already has the finals, but Sonic has to upset two opponents just to get there.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:42:00 PM | Message Detail
Ugh, Sephiroth as a 7 seed screwed everything up. Seriously, the only
mismatch that is even comparable is Halo/Starcraft, with Diablo lagging
well behind those two.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:42:01 PM | Message Detail
Strangely enough, Mario and Sonic have never been in the same half of the bracket. It's like Ceej feels it's finals or nothing.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:42:55 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, which leads to a...
FACT OR FICTION: Mario and Sonic will never be in the same half of a Summer Contest bracket.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
FACT OR FICTION: Mario and Sonic will never be in the same half of a Summer Contest bracket.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:42:55 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Luigi beats Yoshi 60/40 (awesome as that would be), nor
do I think Mega Man collected more SFF on Yoshi than Link did, so I
think the winner is pretty clear cut. I'd love to see a close match, I
just don't think it'll happen. I think Crono/Mega Man has more
potential to be a barnburner that Mega Man/Sonic.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:43:03 PM | Message Detail
Strangely enough, Mario and Sonic have never been in the same half of the bracket. It's like Ceej feels it's finals or nothing.
I agree with that. Mario vs. Sonic is a final match IMO.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
I agree with that. Mario vs. Sonic is a final match IMO.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Mac Arrowny
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:43:15 PM | Message Detail
He did 3% worse against two common Blue Blur opponents (one of them merely a month or two apart).
Ganon only doing 3% worse on Samus than Sonic did is pretty impressive, considering the possibility of a Samus boost/SFF.
How much pic factor is there in this match if Kirby = Zelda?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
Ganon only doing 3% worse on Samus than Sonic did is pretty impressive, considering the possibility of a Samus boost/SFF.
How much pic factor is there in this match if Kirby = Zelda?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:43:21 PM | Message Detail
Mario already has the finals, but Sonic has to upset two opponents just to get there.
Right now, it's looking more like a shot in the dark between Crono/Sonic/Mega Man. Anyone have a three-sided coin?
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SC2K5 Guru Contest: Where _______ kicked my ass.
Right now, it's looking more like a shot in the dark between Crono/Sonic/Mega Man. Anyone have a three-sided coin?
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SC2K5 Guru Contest: Where _______ kicked my ass.
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:44:03 PM | Message Detail
How much pic factor is there in this match if Kirby = Zelda?
Too much, in all liklihood.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
Too much, in all liklihood.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Lopen
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:44:38 PM | Message Detail
Well, the only reason I'd consider Kirby a contender is because of how
well he held up against Bowser, who I've always would've taken over
Ganondorf without much debate.
I could see it happening. I'm putting all of my faith behind Kirby next year. Heh.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
I could see it happening. I'm putting all of my faith behind Kirby next year. Heh.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:44:39 PM | Message Detail
I personally don't think Samus boosted myself. If anything, it was minimal.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: therealmnm
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:45:57 PM | Message Detail
Sonic deserves this match like no one before. I was looking out for my
bracket when I said that I couldn't understand why people were doubting
that Mega Man could take the match. Now that my bracket is shot, I'm
pulling for Sonic harder than I ever have before!
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:46:25 PM | Message Detail
I'm putting precious little faith in the stats next year and instead
will try to pin down exactly which company did the best overall, as
well as on GameFAQs, and gauge boosts/falls in that manner.
...yeah, that would be hard.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
...yeah, that would be hard.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:46:30 PM | Message Detail
I think you're on rather shaky ground for trying to justify Mega Man
over Sonic simply based on Yoshi. It's pretty clear something went
wrong there.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:47:00 PM | Message Detail
I agree with that. Mario vs. Sonic is a final match IMO.
As much as I want to see this match, I'll second that thought.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
As much as I want to see this match, I'll second that thought.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: transience
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:47:16 PM | Message Detail
I'm of the opinion that Kirby overperformed on Bowser for whatever
reason. I've been the biggest supporter of Kirby (and was the first to
say Kirby might beat Squall), but even I don't think he's at 32-33%.
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From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:47:26 PM | Message Detail
And by that, I mean in terms of the system launches that will be happening.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:48:19 PM | Message Detail
Heh, this is at least the third time I've
argued for Bowser>Ganondorf while completely forgetting Twilight
Princess. If Ganondorf looks great and gives another Wind Waker-esque
performance, it's pretty much a moot point.
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From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:49:07 PM | Message Detail
I think you're on rather shaky ground saying that Mega Man collected
12% odd SFF it takes to make Yoshi = Tifa, which is what I would assume
to be the truth or close to it. Did something go wrong? Yeah, sure,
there's SFF there, but not that much.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: Lopen
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:50:21 PM | Message Detail
Thing is even if Kirby doesn't "deserve" that ranking, I still think he
got it from "reverse SFFing Nintendo", which would make Ganondorf just
as vulnerable. But I think Ganondorf's a bit easier to "SFF" and would
be even moreso vulnerable.
But uh... Twilight Princess... yech.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
But uh... Twilight Princess... yech.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:50:38 PM | Message Detail
I'm not basing ANYTHING off of Yoshi. We can't make any clear
assumptions on Mega Man simply based off of that. Regardless of what
you're saying about "Oh, Mega Man couldn't have done such and such." We
just don't know.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: Haste2
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:51:45 PM | Message Detail
If Samus didn't boost...I feel that would place Ganondorf too low.
Ganondorf did get 54% on Auron...I can't see Auron being too far below
33% on BL. Not to mention that he flat out outperformed Bowser against
Sephiroth. But, it's certainly possible that Auron is lower than what I
think, and it makes more sense out of Kefka and Diablo (but not CATS).
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:52:38 PM | Message Detail
Plus, I don't know about you, but I'm not entirely convinced that Leon Kennedy beats Diablo very handily.
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
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"A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own."
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are the same thing."
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:52:48 PM | Message Detail
I also can't take Mega Man on Yoshi versus Link on Yoshi at face value,
if only because I don't think Link gets as much SFF against anyone but
Ganondorf...mostly because he's so popular to begin with that there's
not as many people to sway.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: ShadowOwns
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:54:02 PM | Message Detail
Plus, I don't know about you, but I'm not entirely convinced that Leon Kennedy beats Diablo very handily.
to 2nd that i dont think leon could beat yoshi myself.
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Sonic The Hedgehog's road to the best final possible:
20XX Division Champ: (1) MegaMan
to 2nd that i dont think leon could beat yoshi myself.
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Sonic The Hedgehog's road to the best final possible:
20XX Division Champ: (1) MegaMan
From: transience
| Posted: 9/14/2005 9:54:06 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't place Auron that high, not with how badly everyone else from ff10 got beat down. 30% seems reasonable to me.
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