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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 250
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/15/2005 4:38:48 AM | Message Detail
At this point, Dante is expected to get 41.51% on Crono.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 4:40:42 AM | Message Detail
WTF Vincent keeps winning updates
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/15/2005 4:41:35 AM | Message Detail
This is no Bowser over Snake, but I'll take it.
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George Romero > You.
From: seeraamaazu | Posted: 9/15/2005 4:50:03 AM | Message Detail
I wonder how strong Vincent will be when DoC comes out, AC comes out, and he actually gets some bracket voters on his side....
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DEFENCE, DEFENCE
"Alas, history is nothing but a lie agreed upon" - Napoleon Bonaparte.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 4:56:32 AM | Message Detail
Wow, they've really sailed off into different directions with the morning vote. Crono's votes have spiked drastically, and Vincent's have fallen. He'll get Vincent back under 45% at this rate.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:01:53 AM | Message Detail
*sees Crono with around 55*

Yep, Crono's going down next round.
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RIP Samus: Mario, you better take down Seph.
Crono vs. Vincent - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Crono (92/112)
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:06:43 AM | Message Detail
Crono's skyrocketing now.

So much for that comeback.
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George Romero > You.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:09:00 AM | Message Detail
Well, to be fair Crono's pretty good with the morning, and it's one of Vincent's weakest times (Squall passed Vincent right around this mark, IIRC). He'll be recovering ground during the day, unless for some reason Crono's day vote trumps his more than the disparity between their night votes.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:16:30 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but Crono gained like 100 votes in ten minutes.

If he keeps gaining like this, Vincent's ****ed unless he can pull off a comeback of MC proportions.
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George Romero > You.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:20:25 AM | Message Detail
Eh, like I said, the upset here just wasn't happening. Vincent, in the end, is only roughly equal to Squall. Now, if you'd put Crono up against Ganondorf or Bowser...?

Anyway, Crono is truly dead next round. Unless he defies linearity and the (lol) X-Stats.

So...actually, I'm not counting him out anymore. Just on that principle. <_<
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:20:27 AM | Message Detail
Man, I am really pleased with Vincent's performance here. He's doing far better than I anticipated at this time (41%), but it's great to see him doing so well. I actually think this speaks more of his strength than it does of Crono's weakness. We'll find that out soon enough.

But a very impressive match here by Vincent, he's all over this match.

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“A pro isn’t someone who sacrifices themselves for a job. That’s just a fool.” – Reno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:20:49 AM | Message Detail
*Wakes up*

For the last time, VINCENT WON'T BEAT CRONO!

Though Crono's performance is far from good. If Sonic can win tomorrow, a Mario/Sonic match looks good now.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:20:53 AM | Message Detail
Let's hope that Crono wins,or get at least in the finals.I want to break 100 points.Yeah I am that good ^-^
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:22:37 AM | Message Detail
Squall isn't this strong, sadly, and MC suggested that Crono weakened before this match.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:23:02 AM | Message Detail
I want to see Mega Man so that we can see some spectacular SFF.

If Mario SFFs Mega Man better than Link, I'd be ecstatic.
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George Romero > You.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:23:44 AM | Message Detail
Just for the record, using a constant Squall would put Crono somewhere around the level of 2004 Sonic.

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“A pro isn’t someone who sacrifices themselves for a job. That’s just a fool.” – Reno
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:25:56 AM | Message Detail
Heh. Vincent has actually increased his percentage by 0.03% within the past two updates. He appears to have stopped his major fall in percent.

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“A pro isn’t someone who sacrifices themselves for a job. That’s just a fool.” – Reno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:31:38 AM | Message Detail
Never really understood why Crono was strong. Mario, Link, Mega Man, Sonic, Samus and Solid Snake were to be expected since they have mass games and many people know them and like them. Cloud and Sephiroth come from the game that made GameFAQs, but I don't see why Crono is that strong. I thought he would go 50/50 with Dante in 2k2. (like the rest of the board)
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:32:37 AM | Message Detail
Go Vincent!

Never thought I'd be saying that... but I'd root for pretty much anyone against Crono. It would be so awesome to see Crono be the one to break the Noble 9.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:35:00 AM | Message Detail
50/50 with Dante?! I thought Simon Belmont would beat Crono, for chrissakes!

Ugh, he owned my 2k2 bracket so badly...never underestimated him again. And lo and behold, now that's looking to bite me in the ass.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:38:48 AM | Message Detail
Sonic over Mega Man!!!

I just find it funny that the only match that might not end up with the loser over 40% would be the final ToC match.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: chaos knight | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:44:29 AM | Message Detail
In a sick sense, would be interesting to see Mario vs. Mega Man in the Finals, in which Mega gets SFFed badly there. Then, to have Mario beat Sephiroth and only to get royally reamed by Link in the final match. God, the entire lower half of the bracket will look so ****ed up, I now wish to see it.
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Future sig pending
...I guess
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:44:46 AM | Message Detail
The underestimation of Crono in 2002 was just all sorts of wrong. I had him going all the way to the final four against Mario that year.

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“A pro isn’t someone who sacrifices themselves for a job. That’s just a fool.” – Reno
From: goku z | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:45:14 AM | Message Detail
Woo-hoo, feels great to be on the the board!

43. RagingNiak


Sure, I have next to no chance of winning even if I go perfect, but it's still nice to get some recognition. =p I may even end up in the top 20.
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Summer Contest 2005 Winner: Mario
Mario will SFF Samus, and pull it out against Crono.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:53:00 AM | Message Detail
Crono is looking quite bad here, for the second round in a row. Unless he can turn this around throughout the day (not likely), Mega Man is going to the finals.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:54:04 AM | Message Detail
Crono is looking quite bad here, for the second round in a row. Unless he can turn this around throughout the day (not likely), Sonic is going to the finals.

>_>
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:55:14 AM | Message Detail
Mega Man goes to the finals, and it's possible our unadjusted stats look like this:

1.) Mario
2.) Snake

So wrong...yet, so right...
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From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:55:35 AM | Message Detail
you know, I woke up and said "I bet it's 56-44, Crono" and voted. considering Vincent's from FF7, I'm really not surprised by this. I'm not even sure this is Crono being weak as much as Vincent being strong and from FF7. CT, as well known as it is, is old Square, after all.

therefore, I'm not exactly counting Crono out vs. MM or Sonic. I think it's a tossup between those three.
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From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:57:29 AM | Message Detail
The underestimation of Crono in 2002 was just all sorts of wrong. I had him going all the way to the final four against Mario that year.

We're probably the only ones who had Crono in the F4 that year, and my bracket was more favorites than logic.

I mean, I had Fox > Cloud for God's sake.
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George Romero > You.
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:58:26 AM | Message Detail
I had Cloud > Crono...
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:59:55 AM | Message Detail
I had Crono beating Snake to get to the Final Four myself that year. Of course, I made the absolutely STUPID decision of thinking that Link was fodder and that Raziel would beat him in round 1...

(I hadn't played a Zelda game in 10 years and thought he wasn't that popular anymore) ><
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Future sig pending
...I guess
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 5:59:56 AM | Message Detail
oh, and today's GFA picture is awesome:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2285/catsknux9ni.png
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:03:50 AM | Message Detail
Another unfair pic.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:06:19 AM | Message Detail
Whatever Vincent can do, Squall is .61% behind.


>.>


KB
From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:09:28 AM | Message Detail
it's GFA, of course it's going to be unfair. they're not very casual over there, so I doubt it changes their opinion.

no, I think Vincent has a much better chance vs. strong characters than Squall does. just look at Cloud-Squall for proof. (not that Vincent would do any better, but Squall's from a different game.)
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:12:26 AM | Message Detail
You forget that Cloud vs Squall was basically FFVIII vs FFVIII. Obviously, the SFF would be ridiculous. I don't see Crono, for example, SFFing Squall; he'd get around what Vincent is getting now. :P

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Squall: ...Flower.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:12:36 AM | Message Detail
You can't use Cloud/Squall as a comparison, that's about as big a case of SFF you're ever going to get between two completely separate games...because Squall is eternally compared to Cloud.

A better example would be Samus/Squall. He didn't exactly collapse there.
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For the first time ever, Solid Snake has made the Final Four! Believe it.
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:13:59 AM | Message Detail
So does everyone forget the pecking order is Vincent>Tifa>Aeris, or are you just that determined to see a Sonic/Mega Man vs. Mario Final that you are writing off Crono because of this performance?

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 101/112 (Kefka, Magus (x3), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:14:38 AM | Message Detail
^

See.


Vincent and Squall are rather equal.

Well Vincent being .61% better.


KB
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:14:42 AM | Message Detail
Ooh, and I wake up to see Crono hovering above 55%. A few percent lower than I had imagined, but nothing that worries me about him losing to Sonic or Mega Man.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 101/112 (Kefka, Magus (x3), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:15:30 AM | Message Detail
Why, why, why, would people assume it goes Vincent > Tifa > Aeris? Based on Squall, Aeris > Vincent already, so that's out of the freaking window.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:15:58 AM | Message Detail
fair enough.. I still say Squall would be at least 3% lower than Vincent is right now, though. when a weaker character from a bigger series goes up against a stronger character from a smaller one (like Samus/Ganon), they do respectable. I don't think Squall gets that luxury.

that said, is this performance convincing people that Vincent > Aeris > Tifa? I say no, they're all equal.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:18:14 AM | Message Detail
Here's what the Gear and Dream division look when combined.

1. Solid Snake
16. Manny Calavera

8. Rikku
9. Sora

5. Ryu
12. Kratos

4. Zelda
13. Cecil

6. Tidus
11. Alucard Tepes

3. Kirby
14. King of All Cosmos

7. Vivi Ornitier
10. Chun Li

2. Bowser
15. Agent 47

We have rematches such as, Snake/Manny, Kirby/Tidus, Snake/Zelda, Bowser/Kirby and Snake/Bowser. Many people would take Sora over Rikku and some might take Alucard over Tidus before the contest and Zelda/Ryu would be a very debated match.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:27:00 AM | Message Detail
I really don't understand how crono is winning. He had the one game 10 years ago, but he can beat vincent, mario, etc with just that. His popularity needs to die off already.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:28:26 AM | Message Detail
This is making Crono look like the weakest N9, but the board won't turn on him like they did to Snake.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:28:30 AM | Message Detail
CT > most on this site, obviously. It was in the Best. Game. Ever. Finals, after all...
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:29:13 AM | Message Detail
SMB3 deserved much more.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:29:28 AM | Message Detail
So...Ganon vs. Crono? Vincent vs. Auron? Vincent vs. Aeris? Vincent vs. Tifa? Who wins those matches?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:29:43 AM | Message Detail
Well, obviously the board won't turn on him so quickly. Crono has beaten Mario, after all. This might just be a bad day for him, or the wrong opponent.

Now, if he gets schooled hard next round, it might be a different story.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/15/2005 6:29:51 AM | Message Detail
Go Sonic
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