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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 250
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/14/2005 4:21:58 PM | Message Detail
Go Bowser!!



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
From: Undeniable | Posted: 9/14/2005 4:22:27 PM | Message Detail
Call yourself a Snake fan!
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"[Zelos] clearly should be writing in his book of dark poetry and slitting his wrists with a cruxis crystal - meisnewbie
From: Janors 2 | Posted: 9/14/2005 4:22:34 PM | Message Detail
Don't go Bowser!!
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Board 8: "It's Great!"
Snake's Path to the Final Four - Next Victim: (3) Bowser
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/14/2005 4:22:55 PM | Message Detail
SNAKE FTW!
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/14/2005 4:23:03 PM | Message Detail
bowser sucks, he should be losing 60-40, like the overrated samus
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/14/2005 4:26:25 PM | Message Detail
No Bowser. SFF-riddled matches suck.

See: Yesterday.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 93/104 (Kefka, Magus (x3), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/14/2005 5:06:31 PM | Message Detail
Solid > Bowser. Period. In fact, Bowser's not far ahead of even Raiden.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 9/14/2005 5:07:42 PM | Message Detail
Go Bowser!!

Boo! Hiss!

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
World Champion: Gyruss, Mega Man X, Solstice, Super Mario World, Zombies Ate My Neighbors
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/14/2005 5:09:31 PM | Message Detail
I thought you always stopped caring about your bracket and just rooted for your favorites once the contest started >_>
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:42:24 PM | Message Detail
And dragoon, could you please explain why Bowser has homefield advantage?

Could you explained how a metal gear quote sneaked it's way into the picture?

... Bowser has much better sprites himself.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:43:19 PM | Message Detail
A metal gear quote that basically nobody knows.

http://gamespot.com/gbc/adventure/metalgearsolid/screens.html?page=18

kthxbye.
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:43:32 PM | Message Detail
http://gamespot.com/gbc/adventure/metalgearsolid/screens.html?page=18

kthxbye


That picture looks just as bad, if not worse.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:43:34 PM | Message Detail
Could you explained how a metal gear quote sneaked it's way into the picture?

So an Engrish quote from a game most casuals have never played > one of the most recognizable fields from SMB?
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:44:19 PM | Message Detail
As a big fan of Solid Snake, MGS, and MGS2 I was clueless about the "I FEEL ASLEEP!!" reference until after the pic was up. I know it's from one of the MG games, but you seriously can't call that an advantage for Solid.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:44:32 PM | Message Detail
The ghost babel sprite is much better, especially because its his MGS1 uniform.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:44:49 PM | Message Detail
A metal gear quote that basically nobody knows.

I'd imagine it would get him about as many votes as a homefield advantage. Especially when snake doesn't even stick out that badly in the picture.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:45:00 PM | Message Detail
How the hell is that sprite worse than todays?!<_<
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:45:38 PM | Message Detail
So an Engrish quote from a game most casuals have never played > one of the most recognizable fields from SMB?

Homefield advantage like this = votes from people who would normally vote for snake?
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:45:48 PM | Message Detail
Two updates in a row for Snake =)
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:45:50 PM | Message Detail
Ouch...looks like Bowser's run out of steam.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:46:25 PM | Message Detail
How the hell is that sprite worse than todays?!<_<

I really don't see how it's any better. It's just as unrecognisable as todays.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Alanna82 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:46:46 PM | Message Detail
Is it just me, or did Snake gain again?

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Happiliy married to Wiggumfan267 on Valentines day, 2005. "This sig is owned by S Xero"
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:46:47 PM | Message Detail
Homefield advantage like this = votes from people who would normally vote for snake?

Not exactly, but all it could do is hurt Snake.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Kuge | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:47:04 PM | Message Detail
The bleeding stopped...so far
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I bet on the universe imploding, and it didn't work. Now if I was greatone10, I'd win something.
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:47:16 PM | Message Detail
Your just indenial. That sprite is far better than todays, It atleast looks somewhat like snake.
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:47:30 PM | Message Detail
NIGHT VOTE HAS ARRIVED

What now, Bowser?!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:48:12 PM | Message Detail
*blinks*

ok wtf, modded for posting "obvious vote stuffing/10"
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:48:20 PM | Message Detail
Come on Snake! Hold on! I wanna crack the leaderboard!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 93/104 (Kefka, Magus (x3), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:48:22 PM | Message Detail
It looks nothing like mgs snake aside from colour coding. Do you think colour coding gets votes? Like people who prefer blue to green?
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:48:46 PM | Message Detail
Noooo! Go Bowser!
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:49:11 PM | Message Detail
I don't like that sprite either. I think it's a God-created rule that Solid doesn't get good sprites.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:49:14 PM | Message Detail
GG Bowser. You took a NN member to the limit.
From: Just Some Person | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:49:39 PM | Message Detail
A blond, feminine form in pink in the high rafters could be seen shuffling down the aisles and to the exit of the stadium. After using her good slapping arm to hurl a Spiny onto the field in Bowser's path, she concluded that this was all she could do as revenge...

...TO BE CONTINUED...

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"Being a Hunter has to be the best job in the world! Well, next to pimp..."
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:50:02 PM | Message Detail
Actually, Yes. How many people remember playing with snake when he was black or green? Ok then. Now how many people remember playing with him when he was basically blue and such? Yep, thats right, Basically everyone.
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:50:03 PM | Message Detail
Partystar, Snake winning here will make Zelda, Sora, and Rikku look better, since they won't be behind Mario/Bowser SFF >_>

Hmm... nah, I still have to root for Snake.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:51:24 PM | Message Detail
I would think that Snake going up 54 there, his biggest update in more than 8 hours, ends Bowser's chances. He'll go down being the strongest non-Noble Niner and the closest we've ever seen to an upset of the N9.

And I'm pretty confident that Mario breaks 60% on Snake next round.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:51:29 PM | Message Detail
Actually, Yes. How many people remember playing with snake when he was black or green? Ok then. Now how many people remember playing with him when he was basically blue and such? Yep, thats right, Basically everyone.

...But his name is right there. Recognizability isn't really an issue, especially when your pinning a green and brown blob against a black and blue blod. Both look bad.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:51:50 PM | Message Detail
Go Snake!!!! >_>
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:52:07 PM | Message Detail
No both sprites blow, snake just will have to deal with this in sprite rounds.
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:52:13 PM | Message Detail
You can actually see bowsers eyes and such, And he actually looks like, Well bowser himself.
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:53:29 PM | Message Detail
As a Snake fan, I would like to congratulate Bowser. He fought bravely today.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:53:33 PM | Message Detail
So? Snake doesn't look like 3d snake no matter what sprite you give him. Really, I don't see what's causing all the complaints. Then again a lot of people were complaining about his first round picture for some reason, so meh.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:54:14 PM | Message Detail
I liked his first round picture.
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:54:35 PM | Message Detail
No both sprites blow, snake just will have to deal with this in sprite rounds.


Exactly. Snake doesn't have good sprites in any games. They simply don't exist.
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"The idiots on gamefaqs are easy to find because they always quote themselves" - dragoontheguy
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:55:18 PM | Message Detail
He'll go down being the strongest non-Noble Niner

Depending on what comes out of SFF adjustments, Ganondorf might do it. But yeah, it's either one of the two.
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Zelos: Half the world's girls are destined to become my servants of love!
Presea: The probability of that is... infinitely close to zero.
From: transience | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:56:30 PM | Message Detail
hello, night vote. nice to see you arrived, however fashionably late you are.

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From: Prometheus321 | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:58:55 PM | Message Detail
NOOOooooo!!! The comeback has slowed. :(
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VOTE: BOWSER in the Summer Contest
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:59:06 PM | Message Detail
Flood/Devil Division Round 4 - Match 59 – (2)Crono vs. (5)Vincent Valentine

Crono - More like POOminare!
Round 1 – vs. Zidane (Crono: 76.72% - Zidane: 23.28%)
Round 2 – vs. Tommy (Crono: 70.85% - Vercetti: 29.15%)
Round 3 – vs. Master Chief (Crono: 61.29% - Chief: 38.71%)

Chief does well against Crono. Perhaps….too well.

Vincent - He’ll always be MY Valentine <3
Round 1 – vs. Kerrigan (Vincent: 79.00% - Kerrigan: 21.00%)
Round 2 – vs. Dante (Vincent: 54.00% - Dante: 46.00%)
Round 3 – vs. Squall (Vincent: 50.59% - Squall: 49.41%)

In a very close match, Vincent is able to beat Squall.

In what should be my shortest analysis this round, we have Crono vs. Vincent. I don’t even think we need Contest history here, sweet.

Vincent showed in his match against Kerrigan that he was a force to be reckoned with. He might have been new, but he had some strength. He proved it too, by beating Dante and Squall in close matches. However, Dante and Squall are upper-midcarders. Heck, maybe even Squall can be considered a low elite, but Crono IS an elite. Crono is one of the strongest characters in this Contest. Vincent shouldn’t collapse though, especially after Crono made Master Chief (and DK indirectly) look very good….too good. Crono needs to impress though, because Sonic/Mega Man is around the Corner, and they aren’t playing around.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 59% - Vincent: 41%



Ulti’s Analysis

Of the matches in this round, this is the only one that is actually easy to call. Vincent barely beat SQUALL, and there's no way in the world that Squall could come close to Crono. Vincent may get a little bit of New:Old SFF, but I doubt it'll be much. The magic number to watch here is 40%, and whether or not Vincent breaks it.

Prediction: Crono with 58.24%



Soul’s Analysis

Super Something Round 3 Results!

Crono katana'd Chief: 61.29% - 38.71%

Vincent blasted Squall: 50.59 - 49.41


Thankfully, this match will be the final boring match of the contest, imo. Crono was lucky enough to be given the easiest road to the semi-finals this year. His toughest opponent so far has been Master Chief. You know, the character that almost lost to Donkey Kong. The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Aya Brea. The same Donkey Kong that almost lost to Tommy Vercetti. The same Donkey Kong that got obliterated by Vivi. Yeah, basically, Crono was the luckiest character ever in this contest.

Of course, I'm absolutely positive that Vincent will be a whole lot stronger then Chief. Vincent is by far Crono's toughest challenge so far in the contest. Considering he is only around Squall's level (which I believe to have stayed the same since last year), he could put up quite a challenge against characters like Zero and Ganondorf.

Again, he's not up to par with Crono though. He could probably come close to 45%, but after Tifa only getting 43% against Sonic, it's looking highly unlikely. I'm not even sure he could break 40% against Crono.

Of course, I'm still going to predict low. I'm hoping that Crono shows a lot of weakness in this round so the winner of Sonic/MM will defeat him. I don't have any facts going with this prediction, other then the fact that Crono underperformed against Chief, and possibly Vercetti.

My prediction: Crono wins with 54.50% of the vote. The best match ever is next!



Outback’s Analysis

This is the only "bad" elite 8 match, and at least it serves the purpose to somewhat place Vincent. However, it won't be close, as Crono has shown that he is still up to his old tricks, and Vincent's matches against Squall and Dante haven't exactly been at an elite level.

Crono with 57.00%
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:59:22 PM | Message Detail
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/14/2005 6:59:22 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

Honestly, this has potential to one of the top 5 best matches of this contest, or it has the potential to be pathetic in favor of either character. This is the match that’ll be getting Square their final 4 contestant, and the two competitors are both surprising this year. Crono thus far, has had an oddly poor showing. His first two matches against Tommy Vercetti and Zidane were blowouts but nothing special. Zidane is from FF9, which is 1-3 in terms of match wins, and Tommy barely beat Kefka, all the while being extremely weak himself. The real example of Crono’s weakness though, is his round 3 match. Going in, Crono was a shoe in, and it was expected that he’d at least double Master Chief, who barely managed to beat Donkey Kong, and sucked against CATS. Crono started the match strong, but when the day vote came around, Master Chief tore though those percentages extremely fast, and made sure Crono just barely broke 60% against him. Remember, this is around 60% on the guy that couldn’t break 70% on fodder like CATS.

Vincent is the first newbie to make the elite eight since 2002, (I’m not counting the Spring Contests since they aren’t the same) and is alongside Bowser, one of only three characters outside the noble nine to ever make it this far, the third being Scorpion in 2002. Vincent was placed in one of the most stacked divisions we’ve ever seen, and I believe that it was, overall, the strongest division of the contest. (The noble nine divisions had them and one other maybe and that’s it) Round one, Vincent nearly quadrupled Kerrigan, marking Blizzard’s first ever round 1 loss. In round 2, he had a close match with Dante, and still managed to hit 54% exactly, quite a feat for someone new to the contest against a character who just had a highly acclaimed game released, and the one seed bracket voters. And in round 3, in a match he only won by a little more than 1000 votes, Vincent beat Squall, thankfully shutting Kyle Bowen, Cruel Angel, etc., up. And so Vincent made the elite 8, the newbie FFVII character, and would be facing his biggest challenge yet.

Crono will probably win, but once again, like last round with Tifa, I’m keeping up hope for one of the noble nine to finally be dethroned. In this case, Vincent is a relatively strong mid carder, having won his division over Dante, Squall, Knuckles, AND Magus. Crono has had extremely easy matches thus far, and yet still managed to perform horribly against Master Chief. Chrono Trigger has been showing weakness this entire contest, and I believe Vincent can finally put Crono down. FFVII has been proven by 2004 to be more popular than Chrono Trigger, so who knows if Vincent will be able to SFF the silent hero.

My Bracket: Crono
My Vote: Vincent Valentine
My Prediction: Vincent Valentine with 53.00%



Tnote’s Analysis

Well, color me impressed. Vincent not only avoided getting SFFed by the hero Squall, he even defeated him. If a hero from the same series was unable to SFF the optional sidequest playable Vincent, then the hero from a game half a decade earlier will not be able to siphon votes either. I cannot fathom a situation where Vincent would lose to Master Chief, so Crono should not be able to break 62%. However, he does have his most recognizable SNES sprite, the sprite which most account for Frog and Magus' ridiculous overperformances. The leaderboard is too riddled with Crono champions for me to ever make it up there, but am still gonna cheer like hell for my favorite mute.

Pick: Crono with 58.27%
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