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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 248
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:10:32 AM | Message Detail
User submitted pictures! Maybe we'll finally see Mega Man X for his match with Crono.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:11:21 AM | Message Detail
Hey, all the more reason for Solid > Bowser, heh.

Off to class, but I'll ask the age-old question again: Bowser or Ganondorf, who wins?
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:12:34 AM | Message Detail
Bowser. They're close enough that SFF makes the difference, and I think it goes his way.
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From: Dark115 | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:14:27 AM | Message Detail
User submitted pictures! Maybe we'll finally see Mega Man X for his match with Crono.

I've actually been thinking about submitting pics, and you can be sure if I do a MM/Crono one that MMX will be in it. Its not fair that Snake can use multiple forms of himself like MGA Snake and even Big Boss from MGS3 last year but Mega never gets any X pics

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:15:16 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I'm definitely making an X pic, too.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:23:25 AM | Message Detail
I'll take Ganon. I've yet to see something not from Zelda SFF Ganon, and I wouldn't expect Bowser of all people to change that trend.
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From: SHINE GET 64 | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:24:04 AM | Message Detail
*points to sig*
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:28:59 AM | Message Detail
Poor Yuri.

At least he made it!


KB
From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:28:59 AM | Message Detail
*points to sig*
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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:33:42 AM | Message Detail
I'd take Ganondorf over Bowser. The Spring Contest, if nothing else, is a helpful guide. And even if Link did SFF Ganondorf more, Samus was unable to do it. Not that she would SFF Bowser either, though.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:35:14 AM | Message Detail
After seeing the results today I only have one thing to say. Mario vs. sonic final!

...well I hope so anyways.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:44:40 AM | Message Detail
Well, as much as I'd love to see a Mega Man X picture, he'll be losing to Sonic. I look forward to seeing custom-made Mario vs. Sonic pictures.

...A man can dream.
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:47:18 AM | Message Detail
Dream on Sir Crono...

Megman Man shall defeat Sonic.

BO_ok it!


KB
From: metoolfan | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:52:35 AM | Message Detail
The winner of megaman/Sonic is in the final if you take Yoshi to be equal to masterchief.

leonhart: http://tinypic.com/do3ncy.jpg
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/13/2005 9:54:04 AM | Message Detail
Chief not only overpreforms, he was also likely stonger than expected.


KB
From: ernest | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:13:02 AM | Message Detail
i came back from school and wow i never predicted a tournament winner wrong so far and i think mario will continue the tradition
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From: Dark Ninja1521 | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:15:23 AM | Message Detail
Does Crono stand a chance against Mario?
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:16:07 AM | Message Detail
Hey, I thought of something else: this match pretty much proves that 20XXDF was (more or less) accurate. Of the returning characters, Frog and MC were in their own little world, Vercetti/Kefka can go either way, and that leaves Mega Man, Solid Snake, Zero, and Knuckles. We've seen Mega Man, Snake, and Knux perform as strong or stronger than their adjusted value predicts; Zero was the only problem because of his pathetic performance on Mario. But, assuming there isn't rSFF here (which would be rather insane), Zero is around his 20XXDF value if Mario >= 43%BL. So there's that.
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:19:12 AM | Message Detail
Of course he stands a chance. If you're asking will he win, well, Crono defeated him rather handily in '04...but given the way the voter demographic seems to have shifted, I'd give Mario the edge at the moment.
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From: ernest | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:20:08 AM | Message Detail
this performance by mario ought to shake the leaderboard. am i right?
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:21:49 AM | Message Detail
this performance by mario ought to shake the leaderboard. am i right?

Given that these are two of three most predicted characters going at it, it would have shaken up the leaderboard either way.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
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From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:22:04 AM | Message Detail
*tears up bracket*

Well, now I'm in for fun.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:24:50 AM | Message Detail
Of course it will. 22 for certain drop off, and probably another 5-10 have Samus as well. I expect the casual middle of the pack brackets to do better than the top though.

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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:25:22 AM | Message Detail
22 of the leaders have Samus winning the contest.


Who knows how many more have her winning the match.

All but those who have Mario, COULD be wrong.


KB
From: ernest | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:27:55 AM | Message Detail
i have a score of 79 after today i could be top 1000 for the first time.

i've always been in the top 5000 but never top 1000. although the hardest contest to predict this is the one that's my best
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What a 42 carat plonker you really are~del boy only fools and horses
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:28:48 AM | Message Detail
See, I think the Crono's will have Mario, because how can you predict a final with Crono>X without having X be Mario? It just seems unnatural.

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From: transience | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:30:29 AM | Message Detail
I was thinking the same thing, though I originally had Crono > Samus in my bracket. that was because I wanted it to be unique, though.
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:31:02 AM | Message Detail
Who knows how many more have her winning the match.

All but those who have Mario, COULD be wrong.


True, although I'd expect the majority of people who have Crono to have Mario, just because the match up is too classic.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: ernest | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:32:37 AM | Message Detail
well the winning score drops by a point at any rate. this contest sure is unpredictable
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:49:37 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1345
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1777

This is just so bizarre.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/13/2005 10:54:25 AM | Message Detail
Apparently Raphael Palmeiro has hooked Mario up with a little *nudge nudge wink wink*
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From: ernest | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:12:02 AM | Message Detail
surely this can't just be the rSFF this has to be the mario 64 ds Factor
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From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:47:04 AM | Message Detail
No, I think this boost was due to the recent release of Mario Superstar Baseball.

God. How are we even going to be able to start the task of analyzing these matches for SFF? Even the 2k4 stats are basically rubbish at this point, after all.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:49:27 AM | Message Detail
This is why Snake must win, so the Gear and Dream divisions will be relatively clean. <_<

It'll also be helpful if Crono or Sonic beats Mega Man, so he won't get potentially SFFed by Mario... >_<
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: ernest | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:50:30 AM | Message Detail
hey who thinks snake has got the best pic possible for this round? i mean with solid **** he would be in trouble but with i feel asleep how can he lose?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:51:17 AM | Message Detail
Snake is always in trouble come the sprite rounds. That's just how it is.
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:52:15 AM | Message Detail
Votals

At 11:50:00:
Mario vs. Samus: 43722
Sonic vs. Tifa: 60825
Mega Man vs. Yoshi: 41306

SFF = low vote totals!

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/13/2005 11:55:24 AM | Message Detail
From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 9/13/2005 2:47:04 PM | #083
No, I think this boost was due to the recent release of Mario Superstar Baseball.

God. How are we even going to be able to start the task of analyzing these matches for SFF? Even the 2k4 stats are basically rubbish at this point, after all.


Welcome to the middle of round 1.

To be fair, there was no contest proper last year, merely the SFF Invitational. Now, what happens if Bowser beats Snake and Megaman beats Crono is entirely up to your imagination...
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:11:09 PM | Message Detail
While we're on the topic of SFF: Does Mario beat Mega Man this badly? And can Snake outdo Samus?
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:14:22 PM | Message Detail
I say yes on both, RPGuy. Well I think Mega Man will put up a bit more of a fight. I think Mega Man essentially = Samus, but Mega Man will be SFFed a little less. I'm thinking 57-43 Mario or so.

Snake can probably manage 45% I bet. Maybe a bit more.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:15:07 PM | Message Detail
IF Snake gets past Bowser, I can't see him not outdoing Samus. He's had his own reasons to increase as well, so I can't imagine Mario making him look like too big of a chump.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:20:19 PM | Message Detail
If Snake makes it past Bowser, it wouldn't be so much that he's a chump as that Mario is looking really good here. Samus hasn't shown any signs of falling; rather her wins over Yuri, Frog, and Ganondorf were all very impressive, so we can be reasonably certain she's in the 42%BL range. And Mario has 60% on her. SFF, sure, but I find it hard to believe that Mario isn't at least in the 45%BL range (gives him roughly 53.33% on Samus and roughly lines up with Zero), meaning that Snake has to be around 36%BL to break 40%. Is it possible that he's that strong? Sure. And if he gets 53%+ on Bowser than he probably is. But even after Snake/Sora I'm not totally convinced.
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From: lakersnumber8 | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:22:53 PM | Message Detail
wont matter, samus is losing today in my opinion, i was really surprised at all the leaders who chose him, then again i havent made it past 16th place this time(rank 16) so i cant say much
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From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:24:49 PM | Message Detail
My first picture submitted (Not too serious):

http://users.triconet.org/rskovan/mario_snake.jpg

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From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:26:36 PM | Message Detail
I feel good about this result.I predicted Mario over Samus at the start, and I have it in my bracket, and all the "experts" are like "u r teh nooblar!!".I feel vindicated.I'm the expert now.
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:30:31 PM | Message Detail
I have Mario too.

It just didnt make sense to have Samus over him.

I have Crono over Mario, which seemed safe and in all likelyhood is still possible, thought not probable as it once was.


KB
From: Heroic_Sheena | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:31:31 PM | Message Detail
Bleh, I was hoping that Samus could make it respectable with the day vote. Ah well, hopefully this points to Mario beating Sephiroth, since him winning the main bracket is an absolute lock now. I hope he can break 40% on Link, too...

Nothing to do with the contest, but now that I've gotten used to GameFOX, posting without it sucks. Ah well, I should enjoy the rare opportunity to post at school.
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From: SephirothG | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:32:40 PM | Message Detail
Let's please discuss Mario/Crono IV. This (and MM/Sonic & the TOC to some extent) will decide whether or not I will get a prize.

Yeah I know it's selfish.
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Summer Contest Score: 88/96, Predicted Winner: Crono
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:36:11 PM | Message Detail
Crono hasn't been nearly as impressive so far. He's going to be extremely hard-pressed to make it 2-2, and if he fails to break 60% on Vincent, he's doomed for all intents and purposes.
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From: Heroic_Sheena | Posted: 9/13/2005 12:36:20 PM | Message Detail
Mario will beat Crono worse that Crono beat him last year, if Crono even makes it to the final. The MM/Sonic winner has a very legitimate shot at him.
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