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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 246
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/12/2005 11:36:02 AM | Message Detail
The point with Mega Man being affiliated with Nintendo could be that a large number of Mega Man fans went on to buy Nintendo systems. After all, his Battle Network games are much more popular than his Sony MMX games.

I *believe* that MMX was his best-selling title, but I'm not *completely* sure about that. IIRC, MMX and MM2 were the only titles in MM's career that sold over a million copies.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: shin ramza | Posted: 9/12/2005 11:39:11 AM | Message Detail
Sonic cannot beat Mega Man, as all will see in four days
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/12/2005 11:52:23 AM | Message Detail
People really think Nintendo when they think Mega Man?


I'm having trouble believing the voters are that dumb.


Aren't you one of the people who think that Master Hand making Kuja his ***** was a tragedy?

So I'd imagine you would think the voters would be that dumb.
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George Romero > You.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/12/2005 11:55:25 AM | Message Detail
Yeah. People have conveniently forgotten about the MMBN games on GBA.
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SC2k5: 85/92 *Currently 12th on the Leaderboard*
Come on Bowser! Make this dream a reality!
From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:03:49 PM | Message Detail
This match has made me a believer in the Link/MM SFF.

Although, I still believe that Sonic can defeat MM in their match later.
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This is not a sig, just felt like writing something down here.
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:05:48 PM | Message Detail
So, after this and Snake vrs Sora as well as Frog MC and Liquid all being over estimated after a match with 'Solid ****' no one is thinking the pic factor can create a huge difference in rare occasions? I never believed it would be possible before this year, but now I don't know.
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:05:56 PM | Message Detail
If sonic can get 42+ on samus last year, which he was weaker, he can beat megaman. Megaman got 38 was it on sephiroth second match? sephiroth is only slightly higher then samus.
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From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:07:40 PM | Message Detail
Yeah...I don't know what I was thinking. Of COURSE the voters are that dumb. An artifcal of clothing beat a character here.

I *believe* that MMX was his best-selling title, but I'm not *completely* sure about that.

Mega Man 2 and Mega Man X are the only games in the series to sell over a million copies, and Mega Man 2 was the better seller (around 1.2 million copies sold).
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:07:50 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, but I'm not even going to deal with last year's results. It seems as if every match last year had problems.

I believe that we should just forget completely about last year's stats after this contest is over. You got SFFed? Put a star beside their name on the stats sheet. That way, we don't even have to bother with these damn adjustments taking place.
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This is not a sig, just felt like writing something down here.
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:13:00 PM | Message Detail
no one is thinking the pic factor can create a huge difference in rare occasions

Rare occasions? The pic ALWAYS matters. The average visitor of this site often times doesn't give a **** about either character that is participating in the contest. Who do you choose? The cooler looking one.

"OMG!1 That Snake dude is going to PWNZ0R that Disney ***!1"

*clicks Snake bubble*
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:15:08 PM | Message Detail
i want to see a megaman x vs supersonic pic next round >_>
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From: Samurai7 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:15:40 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't call those occasions as huge as the three I mentioned tho Deus
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:17:09 PM | Message Detail
So what happens when Snake's pic is terrible but they still don't vote against him? It's happened more than the opposite, clearly, so what do you make of that? "OMG, that Snake looks ugly, I'm going to vote for him over Zelda!"?
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:17:22 PM | Message Detail
Light Suit Samus vs. Tanooki Mario... that'd be something, too.
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Zelos: Half the world's girls are destined to become my servants of love!
Presea: The probability of that is... infinitely close to zero.
From: ernest | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:17:50 PM | Message Detail
for megaman/sonic if ceej is lazy he could just but a pic that well blue
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What a 42 carat plonker you really are~del boy only fools and horses
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:21:52 PM | Message Detail
This match is making me believe in Link-Mega Man SFF. There's no other explanation for this at all.
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:28:15 PM | Message Detail
I'm still finding it amazing that Leon is stronger than Yoshi based off these results.
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Today's subliminal thought is:
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:31:44 PM | Message Detail
I'd stil take Yoshi and I bet 90% of the people here would too.
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Uh oh, they started moving their legs back and forth while standing in place. You're about to fight aren't you? - My friend watching me play FFT
From: red sox 777 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:33:57 PM | Message Detail
sephiroth is only slightly higher then samus.

2003 Sephiroth is quite a bit higher than Samus.
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Summer Contest 2005 --- Score: 77/92 --- Rank: T-798
From: Lopen | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:34:34 PM | Message Detail
So what happens when Snake's pic is terrible but they still don't vote against him? It's happened more than the opposite, clearly, so what do you make of that? "OMG, that Snake looks ugly, I'm going to vote for him over Zelda!"?

The only thing that the picture can influence is the "swing vote". As in the people that are either thinking "I like Snake and Zelda, I don't know who to vote for" before the picture loads up, or the people that are thinking "who the hell are these two?".

So Snake wasn't winning many votes from either of those groups, but the amount of people who clearly liked Snake more than Zelda outnumbered the people who clearly liked Zelda more than Snake by enough that it didn't matter. But it could have.

Obviously someone's not going to say "Man, Snake rules so much, but he looks so ugly, I'm gonna vote for the cute little girl instead!"
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:38:58 PM | Message Detail
BTW, how is this match doing in terms of vote totals?
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:39:07 PM | Message Detail
Then explain how pic factor did what it did in Snake's match with Frog.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:40:11 PM | Message Detail
Damn it everyone is sure about Snake's victory.And I had him losing to Bowser,because I thought it would be too good for an upset.Damn it.
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:40:17 PM | Message Detail
Maybe there was Luigi vs. Yoshi SSF and Yoshi was also just adjusted badly last year?

Hmmm...I've heard that somewhere before, about 2 months ago...

Anyway, if Sonic = Mega Man that means Luigi beats Yoshi with 60.85%. Since even I don't think that would happen that means that there's some really bad SFF here or Mega Man is going to make short work of Sonic or probably a combination of the two. Looks like we're going to have a great Elite 8 and on.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: Lopen | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:48:18 PM | Message Detail
Well it can probably work to varying levels of effectiveness. I can personally vouch for it... well not entirely. But for Pac-Man vs Ocelot this year... I was nearly swayed to vote for Pac-Man because I was "pretty sure he'd lose" and because he looked so much better, despite liking Ocelot alot more. I would have too, if Ocelot had been beating him decisively. But I held back my vote because I wasn't sure.

So maybe alot of people did that for Frog vs Snake. "Frog looks way better than Snake... and Frog's cool... not as cool as Snake... but he's alright, I'll just for him... not like Snake's gonna lose anyway".

Who knows, really? All I know is that it's not going to influence your vote if Snake is your favorite character, or if you don't like Frog...

It's not like Zelda's picture was that great either, in all honestly. I would have given her a slight advantage at best.
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Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather."
- Slow Beef
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:49:17 PM | Message Detail
Holy crap, this is awesome. Megaman is a contender again.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:51:28 PM | Message Detail
What the hell? Mega Man's beating Yoshi worse than Leon?

o_O
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:52:26 PM | Message Detail
For all we know, there might be SFF here.

MM is pretty much a stepchild of Nintendo anyway.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:56:29 PM | Message Detail
So there WAS Link/Mega SFF...but recent matches proved there to be little to no SFF in strong Nintendo character matches. Maybe it's just a Mega Man thing.

And yes, there is SFF here. Look at me with a straight face and tell me Leon would beat Yoshi easily. If you could, you'd be knocked down.

And Sonic, Mega Man called. He wants his spot in the Final Four back. BTW - decent bracket percentage for the Hedgehog.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Mega Man vs. Yoshi - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Yoshi (80/92)
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:56:32 PM | Message Detail
Lopen, your whole "argument" is about pity voting, not pic voting.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:57:10 PM | Message Detail
Megaman > Crono?

Anyone?


KB
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/12/2005 12:59:14 PM | Message Detail
Sonic>Crono, perhaps.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:00:43 PM | Message Detail
instea of assuming massive ammounts of sff, can we not assume that having two of the most criticaly acclaimed and populare games on this site as well as every where else made leon and gordon strong? i know that doesnt explain cjay, but still its possable right?
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:01:03 PM | Message Detail
Megaman is beating Sonic. SFF or not, Megaman is doing 12% better than Sonic did against Tifa, and I doubt Tifa would beat Yoshi by much, if at all.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:01:41 PM | Message Detail
Brett, we agree!

Its a sign the universe is going to implode!


KB
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:02:46 PM | Message Detail
I think it's more of. I don't have particularly strong feelings for either of these characters and I don't give a real damn about this contest. Snake looks like crap and this other guy looks cool. He gets my vote.
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:04:07 PM | Message Detail
Nah, the universe imploded a while ago when I was able to settle a dispute peacefully. That doesn't happen on Board 8.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:05:13 PM | Message Detail
settle... peace....fully... ?

what you say!


KB
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:05:43 PM | Message Detail
This match proves very little to me besides Yoshi being overrated.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:07:07 PM | Message Detail
Really? Adjusted Yoshi from 2K4 gets 39% on Unadjusted Megaman 2K4. This is an extremely impressive score.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:07:51 PM | Message Detail
Fourth just attributes everything to whatever will make sonic look better.
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:08:01 PM | Message Detail
^
Yep


KB
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:08:57 PM | Message Detail
Sonic is dead.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:09:14 PM | Message Detail
Ah, fanboyism bias. I can relate. Carry on then.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:09:32 PM | Message Detail
If Sonic was getting this on Yoshi he'd think it would seal the deal. But it's Megaman doing it, so...
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Uh oh, they started moving their legs back and forth while standing in place. You're about to fight aren't you? - My friend watching me play FFT
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:10:51 PM | Message Detail
You yourself try to say there is SFF here...yet that SFF doesn't matter, because Mega Man will still beat Sonic? Sorry if I don't understand. Maybe you can help me.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:11:25 PM | Message Detail
Well it can probably work to varying levels of effectiveness. I can personally vouch for it... well not entirely. But for Pac-Man vs Ocelot this year... I was nearly swayed to vote for Pac-Man because I was "pretty sure he'd lose" and because he looked so much better, despite liking Ocelot alot more. I would have too, if Ocelot had been beating him decisively. But I held back my vote because I wasn't sure.

Heh, I voted for Pac-Man thinking "well, he's losing anyways...might as well voice my support and...OH GOD! MY BRACKET!"
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Today's subliminal thought is:
From: ernest | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:12:06 PM | Message Detail
i think sonic/megaman will be the hottest match of the next round after mario/samus. man the elite eight is loooking awesome
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What a 42 carat plonker you really are~del boy only fools and horses
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:13:09 PM | Message Detail
That same Yoshi who beat Luigi with 55%? Whom Tifa could only manage 53% against? Whom Sonic got 56.4% against? If this is just Yoshi being overrated, Sonic is STILL in trouble.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 9/12/2005 1:15:35 PM | Message Detail
Don't really have time to explain this at the moment, but the basic idea is that the first column contains divisional extrapolateds (with the current match estimated), and the columns that follow are based on estimates of where the division champ might fall on Link.

Mario - 50.00 (40.00) ((36.67))
Zero - 37.14 (29.71) ((27.24))
Ryu H. - 27.48 (21.98) ((20.15))
Lloyd Irving - 19.87 (15.90) ((14.57))
Joanna Dark - 19.10 (15.28) ((14.01))
Albert Wesker - 18.01 (14.41) ((13.21))
Ness - 17.20 (13.76) ((12.61))
Carl Johnson - 15.43 (12.34) ((11.32))

Samus - 50.00 (42.00) ((40.00)) *38.00*
Ganondorf - 40.34 (33.89) ((32.27)) *30.66*
Auron - 37.03 (31.11) ((29.62)) *28.14*
Yuna - 31.30 (26.29) ((25.04)) *23.79*
Frog - 29.95 (25.16) (((23.96)) *22.76*
Riku - 28.95 (24.31) ((23.16)) *22.00*
Big Boss - 21.13 (17.75) ((16.90)) *16.06*
Yuri - 12.68 (10.65) ((10.14)) *9.64*

Solid Snake - 50.00 (38.50) ((36.00)) *33.50*
Zelda - 45.59 (35.10) ((32.82)) *30.55*
Vivi - 36.87 (28.39) ((26.55)) *24.70*
Sora - 34.74 (26.75) ((25.01)) *23.28*
Alucard - 31.02 (23.89) ((22.33)) *20.78*
Kratos - 27.60 (21.25) ((19.87)) *18.49*
Agent 47 - 20.34 (15.66) ((14.64)) *13.63*
Manny Calavera - 15.91 (12.25) ((11.46)) *10.66*

Bowser - 50.00 (34.00) ((32.00)) *30.00*
Kirby - 47.88 (32.56) ((30.64)) *28.73*
Ryu - 41.02 (27.89) ((26.25)) *24.61*
Tidus - 40.55 (27.57) ((25.95)) *24.33*
Rikku - 36.33 (24.70) ((23.25)) *21.80*
Chun Li - 34.10 (23.19) ((21.82)) *20.46*
Cecil - 23.74 (16.14) ((15.19)) *14.24*
King of all Cosmos - 22.27 (15.14) ((14.25)) *13.36*

Crono - 50.00 (37.50) ((35.00)) *32.50*
Master Chief - 38.71 (29.03) ((27.10)) *25.16*
Donkey Kong - 38.10 (28.58) ((26.67)) *24.77*
Tommy Vercetti - 29.15 (21.86) ((20.41)) *18.95*
Kefka - 28.49 (21.37) ((19.94)) *18.52*
Sam Fisher - 26.85 (20.14) ((18.80)) *17.45*
CATS - 24.13 (18.10) ((16.89)) *15.68*
Zidane - 23.28 (17.46) ((16.30)) *15.13*

Vincent Valentine - 50.00 (32.50) ((30.00)) *27.50*
Squall Leonhart - 49.41 (32.12) ((29.65)) *27.18*
Dante - 46.00 (29.90) ((27.60)) *25.30*
Knuckles the Echidna - 45.65 (29.67) ((27.39)) *25.11*
Magus - 44.86 (29.15) ((26.91)) *24.67*
Terra - 26.22 (17.04) ((15.73)) *14.42*
Geno - 24.86 (16.16) ((14.92)) *13.67*
Kerrigan - 21.00 (13.65) ((12.60)) *11.55*

Sonic the Hedgehog - 50.00 (38.00) ((36.00)) *34.00*
Tifa Lockhart - 43.60 (33.14) ((31.39)) *29.65*
Luigi - 40.67 (30.91) ((29.28)) *27.66*
Diablo - 31.45 (23.90) ((22.64)) *21.39*
KOS-MOS - 27.66 (21.02) ((19.92)) *18.81*
Kratos Aurion - 27.20 (20.67) ((19.58)) *18.50*
Jin Kazama - 23.85 (18.13) ((17.17)) *16.22*
Vyse - 19.12 (14.53) ((13.77)) *13.00*

Mega Man - 50.00 (37.50) ((35.00)) *32.50*
Leon Kennedy - 35.44 (26.58) ((24.81)) *23.04*
Yoshi - 33.50* (25.13) ((23.45)) *21.78*
Gordon Freeman - 29.37 (22.03) ((20.56)) *19.09*
Conker - 23.98 (17.99) ((16.79)) *15.59*
Pac-Man - 18.20* (13.65) ((12.74)) *11.83*
Revolver Ocelot - 17.75* (13.31) ((12.43)) *11.54*
Laharl - 17.64* (13.23) ((12.35)) *11.47*
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
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