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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 245
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:41:54 AM | Message Detail
That would put Tifa into the Elites.

If Sonic was breaking 60% then it would've been more believable.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:42:42 AM | Message Detail
Winning over the Nintendo representative this year is asking for too much, however.

Damn straight! 2006 will be a different story!

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:43:18 AM | Message Detail
Well no one actually believes that Sonic could beat Mario or Samus.

You act as though that's crazy. People somehow believe Solid Snake has risen to about 37% on BL, which clearly puts him ahead of Mega Man. That jump, adjusted or unadjusted, is larger than the one Sonic would have to have. Even with Mario's boost taken into account, Sonic is still projected to win with roughly 51%, I believe.

There's not a guarantee there at all, but to say that Sonic has no chance at winning seems rather foolish to me given what we know. But I suppose this'll have to wait until next round against Mega Man.

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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:45:33 AM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario arguing for Sonic? Is this a good thing to us fans, or a bad thing?
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From: transience | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:45:33 AM | Message Detail
I love how every person who was talking about Tifa's strength is now saying that Sonic has a shot at Mario or Samus.

uh-uh.

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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:45:41 AM | Message Detail
Did we all forget what happened with Samus met Sonic in 2002 and 2004?

Also, Mario/Sonic would be closer, but I'd still go with Mario.

I will say though, that Sonic over Mega Man looks pretty good right about now.
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Sonic vs. Tifa - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (76/88)
From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:47:07 AM | Message Detail
If there is a Mario/Sonic final, I don't think I'll be able to vote.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:47:56 AM | Message Detail
Going with the 39.27% number for Sonic, this performance right now -- as of 56.73% -- would put Tifa at a percentage of 33.98% against 2004 Link. That's just a smidge above Sonic's 2004 number. There's room for Tifa to fall just right under the elite's here.

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:49:35 AM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario arguing for Sonic? Is this a good thing to us fans, or a bad thing?

You don't really need to "argue" really, Sonic's numbers are right there. There's nothing you have to stretch to see that he CAN win. Whether or not he does is a different story entirely. I just cannot believe there are people who want to say Sonic stands zero chance here. I mean, come on, Sonic has not shown he's out of contention this year.

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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/11/2005 8:50:52 AM | Message Detail
Haha, this is great.

Anyways, I hope Sonic does reach the finals. A Mario/Sonic final is better then a Mario/Crono final, in my opinion.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:00:08 AM | Message Detail
Well people being delusional about Snake beating Mario/Samus hardly makes Sonic over the duo any less ludicrous.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:02:44 AM | Message Detail
is anybody actually saying Snake will beat Mario? I've not heard that at all. same with Vincent over Crono.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:05:02 AM | Message Detail
Vincent over Crono ended when he failed to smash Dante.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:05:55 AM | Message Detail
I did not say it was absolutely certain that Sonic would beat Mario or Samus. I did, however, state that it is clearly possible for him to do so. How in the world you can deny that is beyond me. You cannot look to previous years and show me any match where Sonic may have lost, considering those years are not the final say in what happens during 2005.

If you want to ignore the numbers, fine. But I find it absurd to go with the idea that Solid Snake is at 37% on BL and that Mario, Samus, and to a much lesser extent, Crono have a shot at winning this while Sonic appears to just be there -- happy to beat Mega Man at best. That is what's ludicrous.

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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:06:53 AM | Message Detail
I think Solid Snake ranking with Mario/Samus is unfeasible too, BTW.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:09:25 AM | Message Detail
I think Snake and Sonic ranking with Mario and Samus is unreasonable. Samus beat Sonic 57-43 or something last year and the so-called "Nintendo boost" has happened since then. I can't imagine the "Sonic boost" is going to be enough to offset that by 7%.

Snake had a nice showing on Sora, but he's not going to beat Mario or Samus. no way.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:09:55 AM | Message Detail
Vivi: 36.87
Sora: 34.74

Vivi would never beat Sora in a million years!
So...lol x-stats.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:11:02 AM | Message Detail
I almost gave a serious response to AmazingKirby. ha ha ha!

>_>
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:13:35 AM | Message Detail
On the subject of Tifa's ranking, if Sonic can manage to get up to and finish with 57.27%, then Tifa will fall in exactly equal to Sonic's 2004 ranking of 33.56%. If Sonic finishes with 58.23%, then Tifa would fall directly equal to Magus's old 2004 value of 32.57%.

So her percentage might be elite-esque if she ranks equal to 2k4 Sonic, but I believe all of the Noble Nine would have ranked above that percentage when everything is said and done.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:14:47 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and Rikku is stronger than Tidus. Ryu got SFFed by Bowser, and Bowser got rSFFed by Kirby.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:14:49 AM | Message Detail
Tifa actually stalled Sonic right there. Pulled him down .01%, but hey, it's something.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:15:29 AM | Message Detail
Partystar, can you stop irritating me? >_>
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:16:42 AM | Message Detail
Sonic is not getting 60% of the votes like he used to.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:17:47 AM | Message Detail
Damn it, another stall.

Question: If Sonic can't pull above 57% to 58% during the day, is he prone to drop like a rock in %-age during the night?
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:18:44 AM | Message Detail
I don't think he will drop like a rock, but not gain anything when the da vote is over.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:19:57 AM | Message Detail
reminder: partystar once said that no one had played OOT and that was why Snake was winning.

Sonic's going to drop in percentage in the night no matter what. this is probably going to end around 56%. it's a lot easier to drop in percentage if you're higher, obviously, so we'll see.

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:20:51 AM | Message Detail
Judging from last night, he'd probably handle the second night vote better than Luigi did. She was able to rise from 52% to 53% with it.

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From: Gooper Blooper | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:21:06 AM | Message Detail
If there is a Mario/Sonic final, I don't think I'll be able to vote.

Easy for me: I'll vote for whoever's losing when I check the poll.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:21:56 AM | Message Detail
Luigi lost .71% at his peak against Tifa. I don't see her doing much worse against Sonic.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:22:18 AM | Message Detail
So we're looking at a possible finish below 55%.

=(

On the topic of a Mario/Sonic final, tt'd be an easy decision for me, too. I'd vote for Sonic >.>
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:23:24 AM | Message Detail
So we're looking at a possible finish below 55%.

I think it's very safe to say that Sonic will finish with over 55%.

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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:23:59 AM | Message Detail
I would probably do the same. But, again, I might be too happy to vote.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:24:42 AM | Message Detail
I would vote for Sonic without thinking. Now Megaman VS Mario, that would be hard for me.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:24:50 AM | Message Detail
Er, below 56%. I meant 55.XX%.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:25:26 AM | Message Detail
And it's above 57%
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From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:28:19 AM | Message Detail
Its amazing to me that Tifa kept it as close as she did last night. Just goes to show the lingering Square presence around the site after Vincent/Squall if you ask me.

And it kills me how people get so angry about Sonic fans getting excited about the prospect of Sonic doing exceedingly well. But say "Samus could beat Cloud!" and no one says a goddamn thing.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:30:25 AM | Message Detail
Its amazing to me that Tifa kept it as close as she did last night. Just goes to show the lingering Square presence around the site after Vincent/Squall if you ask me.

Yeah, and Sonic is weak at night, too.

This is probably the first time I've seen the fabled "Sega day vote" REALLY working it... and I love it.

And it kills me how people get so angry about Sonic fans getting excited about the prospect of Sonic doing exceedingly well. But say "Samus could beat Cloud!" and no one says a goddamn thing.

It has something to do with Smurf, IIRC.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:31:11 AM | Message Detail
That's because there are two kind of people in this topic.

Those who love Sonic to death and those who wants anyone to upset Sonic before he reaches to a Noble Nine character.


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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:32:17 AM | Message Detail
That's because Sonic isn't perfroming above expectations.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:32:21 AM | Message Detail
That's because there are two kind of people in this topic.

Those who love Sonic to death and those who wants anyone to upset Sonic before he reaches to a Noble Nine character.


And there are those of us who fall in neither category...
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From: transience | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:32:28 AM | Message Detail
Samus beating Cloud was always a longshot in my mind. I know the board was high on Samus and all, but I think that was more because people wanted to see Cloud lose than anything else.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:33:02 AM | Message Detail
reminder: partystar once said that no one had played OOT and that was why Snake was winning.

Reminder: Never say anything in front of transience as he twists words and takes them out of context.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:33:33 AM | Message Detail
This is probably the first time I've seen the fabled "Sega day vote" REALLY working it... and I love it.

Ryu was beating Sonic before the morning vote.

It was because of the morning vote Knuckles beat Magus.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:35:46 AM | Message Detail
well, your favourite characters are Rikku and Sora. you're arguing crazy stuff in order to make them sound stronger than they are. I think the Zelda comment makes perfect sense.

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:37:02 AM | Message Detail
Huzzah, I have an internet connection again! And huzzah, Sonic is "destroying" Tifa! If he manages to win his half of the bracket, I'll be amazed but not surprised, but I don't think he has a prayer of beating Mario/Samus. Good to see that both Tifa and Vincent are not near elites.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:37:40 AM | Message Detail
I just love this match. Not only did Sonic completely destroyed Tifa when the dayvote came, but this looks like to be the most popular poll so far. (Solid Snake VS Zelda is the most popular right now, right?)
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:38:27 AM | Message Detail
Good to see that both Tifa and Vincent are not near elites.

You cannot tell such a thing without knowing where Sonic actually ranks.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:39:34 AM | Message Detail
Beating Mario/Zero by 354 votes
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:40:16 AM | Message Detail
You can't sit there and tell me with a straight face that Sonic is equal to Samus.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/11/2005 9:41:05 AM | Message Detail
well, your favourite characters are Rikku and Sora. you're arguing crazy stuff in order to make them sound stronger than they are. I think the Zelda comment makes perfect sense.

You honestly think I'm serious when I say Bowser SFFed Ryu and stuff like that?

And I said Zelda would be doing better (not winning) with an SSBM picture, because I thought more people that come to this site here and now, have played SSBM, than OoT. Of course, OoT is much more popular, as seen by the game contest, but more people probably dislike SSBM because its a fighting game, instead of a real adventure game like OoT. Now, I don't know the sales of both, but I imagine they're close.
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