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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 241
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:21:10 AM | Message Detail
You people put too much stock into pics.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:21:10 AM | Message Detail
Vincent looks to be hanging right around the 140 mark for his lead. The votes coming in are getting horrendous too. 91 for Squall and 88 for Vincent on that last update.


Morning vote needed!

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:21:54 AM | Message Detail
You sure like to ask why a lot, while ignoring the first sentence I wrote.

Since you elaborated on that first sentence in the rest of your post, I didn't find it necessary to respond to it. I didn't ignore the relevant things of your post, as opposed to you.


NINTENDO HAS RECIEVED A MASSIVE BOOST ACROSS THE BOARDS, INDICATING A CHANGE IN VOTER POOL.

Ok, so that explains why Bowser - Snake could still be close, it doesn't change the fact that Sora and Alucard would drop so much (unless you actually believe that Snake rose from 33.05% on base Link to +36%).
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:22:34 AM | Message Detail
I'm going to bed. If our god is not a hateful one I shall awaken to see Vincent safely away from Squall.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:23:20 AM | Message Detail
(unless you actually believe that Snake rose from 33.05% on base Link to +36%).

Uh... actually I do, it was kinda indicated by me saying I expect Snake to be ay 36-37% on BL.

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From: Starion | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:23:33 AM | Message Detail
I didn't get the Samus "owning" Crono one too. What was that supposed to be? That just wasn't very good. As for Mario in a Mario-owning pic, he can do several things:

1) Shoot a fireball. The opponent is covered in a blaze.
2) Stomping on the opponent's head.
3) Whacking his opponent with a mallet (my personal preference).
4) Kicking a Koopa shell on the enemy.
From: Smurf87 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:23:44 AM | Message Detail
o_0

Get a load of Crono's bomb-tastic performance!
Looks like he can join MegaMan on his way out of the noble 9...

Heck, Vincent/Squall have a chance aganist him at this rate!

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From: Ayvuir | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:24:41 AM | Message Detail
Crono's going to seriously struggle next round IMO
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:25:25 AM | Message Detail
Looks like he can join MegaMan on his way out of the noble 9...

...unless you think that Yoshi > MM or Tifa > Sonic & Tifa > MM that's impossible.

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From: Starion | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:25:43 AM | Message Detail
er. That was supposed to be Samus owning Cloud in my previous post,not Crono. Although Samus would definitely own Crono if they met.
From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:25:55 AM | Message Detail
koopa shell is unfair. that's, like, props.

I don't care what Shadow got on Mario, I'd take Mario and not think twice. I would really like to see that match; I don't want Samus to lose, but if she does, Mario/Crono or Mario/Sonic would rule.

nite, Chichiri.
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From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:26:56 AM | Message Detail
If Vincent wins,his match with Crono will be too close.Vincent is a newcomer,yet he might manage to get into the final 8.Amazing.This proves how strong is FFVII,and that it will never drop.And I am pretty sure that after Advent Children comes out and the new FFVII game,Cloud will easily beat Link.
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:26:58 AM | Message Detail
Lead cut to 120... updater missed it.

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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:27:23 AM | Message Detail
Nah, Crono's not jobbing to anyone involved in an all-day affair with Squall (no offense to Squall, it's just Crono ain't that low). It might not be pretty, but he's getting to the Final Four (where he'll have the fight of his life against Sonic, in all liklihood).
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:28:45 AM | Message Detail
Crono would have to drop a full 8% to get to Squall's level, while I don't doubt he dropped, I don't think it's that significant.

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:29:40 AM | Message Detail
it would take serious rSFF to even make it a 55-45 affair. Crono should win that match with ease.
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From: Smurf87 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:30:24 AM | Message Detail
...unless you think that Yoshi > MM or Tifa > Sonic & Tifa > MM that's impossible.


uhh no.....

I think Sonic will score 57% on Tifa.
Mega 53% on Yoshi
Sonic 58% on Mega


Mega is then out of the top 9....

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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:30:37 AM | Message Detail
128 now... damn updater missing Squall take it to 120.

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:30:57 AM | Message Detail
the updater's running fast, or the poll's running slow, one of the two. the lead's 128.
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:31:09 AM | Message Detail
It didn't just miss the update, it actually fell behind.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:31:29 AM | Message Detail
Snake's best picture EVER making up for a half a percent to a percent or so? Yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

That is, if it did do anything. I won't be surprised to see Bowser do worse than Zelda. Which is quite feasible.


Ok so you would find Snake 53- Bowser 47 reasonable, right? That puts Bowser (assuming a constant Sora) at 39.14% on Base Link, which is above Mario, Mega Man and Sonic.

Ironically, it also puts him above Snake with 57.63%.

Bingo. But why are all these notorious characters dropping? There's no reason for it... except you know, the thing about voting pools, I don't know if you caught my last post though.

That's a bit contradictory. Rikku dropping = Yuna dropping = Ganondorf dropping a lot.


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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:32:20 AM | Message Detail
Mega is then out of the top 9....

That's not how the Noble 9 works....

The noble 9 isn't the people with the best 9 percents on BL. It's the 9 characters who never lose to anyone outside of the noble nine.

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From: Ayvuir | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:32:43 AM | Message Detail
Advent Children comes out on the 13th so it will give Vincent, if he wins, and Cloud a massive boost. And Tifa if she wins, but i dont tihnk she will
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:35:01 AM | Message Detail
(assuming a constant Sora)

Problem number one.

That's a bit contradictory. Rikku dropping = Yuna dropping = Ganondorf dropping a lot.

You don't get it... throw that crap out the window. That's what I mean by a change in voter pool, every thing else would become completely worthless, kind like what happened in 2k3. Everything from 2k2 was garbage.

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:35:36 AM | Message Detail
this match is teasing me.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:36:31 AM | Message Detail
Uh... actually I do, it was kinda indicated by me saying I expect Snake to be ay 36-37% on BL.

Ok, so that puts Alucard under Bomberman and Sora under Tommy. You believe that?

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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:37:21 AM | Message Detail
Ok so you would find Snake 53- Bowser 47 reasonable, right? That puts Bowser (assuming a constant Sora) at 39.14% on Base Link, which is above Mario, Mega Man and Sonic.

He's already past that based on constant Ryu. Oh, and you forgot to remember to lower Sora a bit for pic.

Ironically, it also puts him above Snake with 57.63%.

Which Snake? Yeah, that's what I thought.

That's a bit contradictory. Rikku dropping = Yuna dropping = Ganondorf dropping a lot.

WORST. INFERRENCE. EVER.

Seriously, does anyone ever agree with these theories of yours?
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:37:52 AM | Message Detail
Over three hours and a half and the lead is still at 123. This is an awesome match. ^_^

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:38:17 AM | Message Detail
please, guys, just ignore him. please.

I'll throw it out there: Squall or Aerith, who wins? anything.
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:38:17 AM | Message Detail
NO, NO I DON'T, HOLY ****ING ****. IT'S A SIMPLE CONCEPT, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

CHANGE IN VOTER POOL = EVERYTHING BEFORE NOW WORTHLESS.


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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:39:45 AM | Message Detail
I would always take Aeris over Squall. And Vincent. And probably Tifa, too.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:40:08 AM | Message Detail
Problem number one.

Yeah Sora probably raised.


You don't get it... throw that crap out the window. That's what I mean by a change in voter pool, every thing else would become completely worthless, kind like what happened in 2k3. Everything from 2k2 was garbage.

So wouldn't Nintendo get the boost? Ganondorf certainly seems to have missed it then.
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:41:10 AM | Message Detail
Squall > Aeris.

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:41:50 AM | Message Detail
111!

I would take Tifa over Aerith and Aerith over Vincent, though I don't see them being more than, say, 2% away from each other in strength.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:42:54 AM | Message Detail
I can't believe this. You're not even 'argumenting' through this anymore, you're just BSing things that don't even sync up with the stats. This is ridiculous.
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:43:08 AM | Message Detail
I see Aeris a good 3% under both Tifa and Vincent.

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From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:43:33 AM | Message Detail
Hey people,according to stats who will win today?Or you can't really say,since Vincent is a newcomer?
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:44:14 AM | Message Detail
Can't really say because he's a newcomer.

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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:45:08 AM | Message Detail
Assuming Dante and Knuckles to be equal from 2k3 (yeah, right), Vincent has the ever so slight advantage.
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From: Ayvuir | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:45:23 AM | Message Detail
it's going to be damn close
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:45:53 AM | Message Detail
Aeris beats squall, period. And I couldn't sleep, chest pain... now I know why. Just die already Squall.
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I once made a sig bet with TRE that Ganon wasn't actually over 31 on BL. The jury's still out on the pigman, but props to TRE 'cause I'm a believer again.
From: consolefreak | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:46:16 AM | Message Detail
He's already past that based on constant Ryu. Oh, and you forgot to remember to lower Sora a bit for pic.

It still puts Bowser at an obscene amount.

Which Snake? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Ok so you think Snake would get 41.64% on base Link?
I'd rather believe in Sora - Snake SFF, but ok.

WORST. INFERRENCE. EVER.

Seriously, does anyone ever agree with these theories of yours?


Everyone drops except Nintendo and Snake. This includes Yuna. So why does Ganondorf underperform ridiculously much on her?

NO, NO I DON'T, HOLY ****ING ****. IT'S A SIMPLE CONCEPT, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

CHANGE IN VOTER POOL = EVERYTHING BEFORE NOW WORTHLESS.


Ok. If you can't grasp a single match, throw everything out of the window. Sure.

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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:47:06 AM | Message Detail
Squall is not dieing any time soon. :P

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:47:06 AM | Message Detail
I would have never taken Knuckles over Dante, but Squall is making them look freaking identical. impressive.
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From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:48:33 AM | Message Detail
Let's assume that Vincent wins.What will be the % of the brackets who had this match right?25% or less?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:48:33 AM | Message Detail
I quit. Again. Just like last time. You seem determined to confound logical arguments (as if ridiculous claims of Snake/Sora SFF weren't enough), so I'm obliged to never take you seriously again.
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From: Ars Arcanum13 | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:49:03 AM | Message Detail
....no actually everyone from Nintendo boosted, why is KOS-MOS the statistical favorite going into KOS/Luigi a few months after a new game for KOS-MOS, and Luigi complete blows her out, I could keep going, but you know what I don't need to. Nintendo didn't start offering bags of crack to everybody that votes for their characters on gameFAQ's and they didn't all come out with new games that would turn them on to new fanbases. It changed, I don't know why it's a hard concept to follow. I'm not doing it for this one match, it's been being said since the first round of the damn contest.

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From: transience | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:49:09 AM | Message Detail
Vincent only had 25% against Dante. it's probably something like 15.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:49:09 AM | Message Detail
I can't believe this. You're not even 'argumenting' through this anymore, you're just BSing things that don't even sync up with the stats. This is ridiculous.

Right. Sora beating Alucard wasn't impressive in the least bit. It certainly wasn't an overperformance according to the Xs.

In fact, according to the stats, Alucard should've gotten like 40% on Sora, and according to those stats, Sora has dropped. You're completely right.

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From: Ayvuir | Posted: 9/10/2005 3:49:53 AM | Message Detail
i reckon it will be lower than 25% Safer, most people have Magus or Squall
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