I still find it odd that people had to come online to use a guide for FFVII. I suppose if they wanted to be absolutely certain that they didn't miss anything, but that takes away some of the enjoyment, methinks...

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Squall managed to shave off 28 votes there. It was mostly due to Vincent sucking it up in another update though -- he only had 93 votes that time.

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Ok. You just stick to "Snake overperformed on Sora".

Or, perhaps, "Snake is just that damn good."
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All AC has to do is to make more people like Cloud more than Link. It's not like none of the Link voters have played FFVII or none of the Cloud voters have played any good Zelda game.

Oh and Vincent is going down, which makes me happy.
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"I just think more money is put into AC, thus DoC will be worse."

More money was put into the Hulk than the new Hulk game... I would be willing to bet 9 times out of 10 people who experienced both would call the Hulk a bad movie and the new Hulk game better than average (it's seemingly fun, from the brief experience I had). Money isn't everything, and movies are on a different scale than games. Get over it already.
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WHOA WHOA WHOA. You're calling SFF in Snake/Sora?

FTW.

Seriously, that's the single worst case I've ever heard of someone calling SFF, how about Snake just gained from the insane amount of kickass that was MGS3.

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Is the new Hulk game really any good? The one that coincided with the release of the movie was trash.
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"I still find it odd that people had to come online to use a guide for FFVII. I suppose if they wanted to be absolutely certain that they didn't miss anything, but that takes away some of the enjoyment, methinks..."

it's why this site exists to begin with, though. Odd or not, without people wanting a walkthrough for FF7 we wouldn't be here.
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you haven't seen this, EC? he's been talking about this since Snake/Zelda, often flooding half the stats topic.

and it's always during a close match.
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You don't want to read the topic. <_<

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it's why this site exists to begin with, though. Odd or not, without people wanting a walkthrough for FF7 we wouldn't be here.

I know. I wasn't commenting on whether it was true or not, just saying that it was strange.

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I've read differently, but I certainly hope the story will be good.

What review did you read? I hope it was anything related to Variety.

Considering every impression I've read does seem to suggest it being a bad game,

The game is not completed. Of course the impressions aren't going to be good. There are some obvious problems that need to be worked on. I wouldn't imagine a game like this being great this early and given that it's Square making an action game. But they have more than plenty of time to work on it and correct those errors. By no means could I see this end up being a bad game. It may not be great -- not that I'm saying it won't, because at this point I'd rather wait and find out than throw this silly speculation around -- but I couldn't see it being bad. The impressions didn't speak THAT ill of it.

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No, school and a social life have been ruining my gameFAQ's time... the bastards. But seriously, someone get me a huge ****ing stamp. He needs to be branded with ink stating clinically insane.

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damn, Squall's doing nice. maybe this is the start of the morning vote?
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Oh, and let's hear your explanation for Ganon and Bowser cracking 40% on Sephy again. That would be lovely.

Sephiroth dropping. What's so unlikely about that?

I'll stop though, I've turned this corner one too many times. I'll just say one last thing, though: according to the game contest, KH > MGS2 and MGS. Why would the character from the more popular game get SFF'd by the character from the less popular game?

It's Snake! FFVI was stronger than MGS too, would Kefka beat Snake?

Or, perhaps, "Snake is just that damn good."

I'll let Bowser disprove that theory for you.

More money was put into the Hulk than the new Hulk game... I would be willing to bet 9 times out of 10 people who experienced both would call the Hulk a bad movie and the new Hulk game better than average (it's seemingly fun, from the brief experience I had). Money isn't everything, and movies are on a different scale than games. Get over it already.

There are, of course, exceptions. But you can't deny that money is an essential part for a game.

Seriously, that's the single worst case I've ever heard of someone calling SFF, how about Snake just gained from the insane amount of kickass that was MGS3.

Bla bla bla.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=23392074

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Squall shaved off 3 votes that time. Vincent's lead is down to 140.

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I said better than average. It has a ton of interactivity and things that would make the casual gamer want to buy it. Just hearing one Gamestop employee exclaim i nall degrees of excitement that you could run forward, grab a card from the side and toss it a sizable distance assures me that, at the least, it has enough mindless fun to sell it to the GTA-like fans out there.
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What review did you read? I hope it was anything related to Variety.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=920785&topic=23229293


The game is not completed. Of course the impressions aren't going to be good. There are some obvious problems that need to be worked on. I wouldn't imagine a game like this being great this early and given that it's Square making an action game.

I know plenty of games that had promising impressions in their early stage.


But they have more than plenty of time to work on it and correct those errors. By no means could I see this end up being a bad game. It may not be great -- not that I'm saying it won't, because at this point I'd rather wait and find out than throw this silly speculation around -- but I couldn't see it being bad. The impressions didn't speak THAT ill of it.

I'm sceptical about it.

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"maybe this is the start of the morning vote?"

Should I laugh or ignore it?

This is, my friend, what I call the "deadzone"... the time of day where losing characters somehow "win" possibly by merit of just being behind. The votes are at their lowest at this time. The day vote starts hours from now.
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Wow... I feel robbed of my time by actually reading that topic. There is 0 reason for SFF, and out of those upsets you listed, they were upsets according to the x-stats, but they were all favorites going by the BoP other than MM > Crono.

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This is, my friend, what I call the "deadzone"...

That's a good way to describe it.

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I meant in Europe, actually. I should have clarified. it's a better explanation than "hey, it's 5am! let's all vote for the losing character!"
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My mom just woke up... but I don't think that counts.

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EC, that was the joke topic. the real topic was much, much worse.

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Bla bla bla.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=23392074

Ever heard of sarcasm?
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He needs to be branded with ink stating clinically insane.

Ok, let's hear your theory about the match then. "Snake is just that good?" Assuming a constant Alucard, Snake
is expected 47.96% on Link. Snake's not that good.

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That should be car, back there. It's the Hulk, after all.

"Sephiroth dropping. What's so unlikely about that?"

Wheres the evidence? Any at all? Sure, the LSE has him down 2% (not enough to discount a Ganon/Bowser gain), but that's based off of 6 characters. If two of those characters increased noticably (we'll say... Ganon and Bowser, just as an example, ya know) it could throw the rest off.

"There are, of course, exceptions. But you can't deny that money is an essential part for a game."

Sure, but the fact of the matter is you can directly compare movies to games. It doesn't work like that. There are movies that get well over 100 million put into them and fail (Spirits Within being relevant here) while there are games with much smaller budgets that are successes (I can't say I have figures on what it cost to make FF7, but I'd bet it's less than the aforementioned movie). They are different media, they can't be compared.
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Again, like I said, consolefreak has a habit of not taking the stats beyond face value. Same reason he tries to argue for a full Square increase across the board in 2k3 without taking a good long look at KHF.
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Ever heard of sarcasm?

Ever heard of reading past the first post?

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Ever heard of sarcasm?

It's the topic that has all my arguments, hence I linked to it rather than defending my point again.
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Ok, let's hear your theory about the match then. "Snake is just that good?" Assuming a constant Alucard, Snake
is expected 47.96% on Link. Snake's not that good.

Okay, Alucard dropped, Sora slightly dropped, Snake got a huge boost from MGS3, will decimate Bowser, beat Samus, win the championship, take out Seph since he's obviously dropped so much, and get 46.96% on link.

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"it's a better explanation than "hey, it's 5am! let's all vote for the losing character!""

If you think that's what I jsut said you need your vision checked. By no means does this happen because the character is losing, it's because the vote totals are simply much lower and that causes more random variations such as the losing character winning updates to happen. I never said that the losing character actually gains support from losing while in the deadzone.
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Wheres the evidence? Any at all? Sure, the LSE has him down 2% (not enough to discount a Ganon/Bowser gain), but that's based off of 6 characters. If two of those characters increased noticably (we'll say... Ganon and Bowser, just as an example, ya know) it could throw the rest off.

The evidence? How about common sense? If you don't havy any games, you drop.

Same reason he tries to argue for a full Square increase across the board in 2k3 without taking a good long look at KHF.

What are you taling about? KH is the reason for the Square increase..

Ever heard of reading past the first post?

Ever heard of comprehensive reading, or having an IQ of over 100?


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By the way stop making horrible arguements, I'm trying to watch a match here and keep forgetting how much ass Squall is kicking.

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Okay, Alucard dropped, Sora slightly dropped, Snake got a huge boost from MGS3, will decimate Bowser, beat Samus, win the championship, take out Seph since he's obviously dropped so much, and get 46.96% on link.

Amazingly, that still sounds more plausible than Snake/Sora SFF.
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Ever heard of comprehensive reading, or having an IQ of over 100?

Ever heard of comprehensive reading, or having an IQ over 100? Because I wasn't talking to you, but good job owning yourself.

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Flame me all you want but here's my take on Sonic in this:

I think Sonic could win it if Mario beats Samus and Snake and Sonic makes the finals as well.

Xstats go out of the window in that match. Especially since Mario may not be neccessarily stronger then Samus, if you extrapolate through other people. I know it sounds weird, but if they retained the same popularity but were from different companies, Samus would win. Mario's only shot at beating Samus is SFF and if he pulls it off, and Sonic manages to get past Crono, I would not like to bet anything on the final.

Yes, it's unlikely. But we'll see how badly Sonic can beat Tifa tomorrow, then I'll make a decision. I'm pretty confident he can beat Megaman, though.
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To go further on that, I even quoted what I was responding to... wow. You earned yourself a shiny gold sticker.

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Big gain for Vincent, and this time it was Squall sucking that did it.
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Okay, Alucard dropped, Sora slightly dropped, Snake got a huge boost from MGS3, will decimate Bowser, beat Samus, win the championship, take out Seph since he's obviously dropped so much, and get 46.96% on link.

Decimate? What happens when Bowser wins, or at least makes it close (which will happen)? Can I stamp you for being clinically insane?

By the way stop making horrible arguements, I'm trying to watch a match here and keep forgetting how much ass Squall is kicking.

I think arguments can't get any worse than "Snake will decimate Bowser", but if you want me to stop argumenting, than stop responding to my arguments. The basics of a conversation really, but I wouldn't expect you to understand it.



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Amazingly, that still sounds more plausible than Snake/Sora SFF.

XFD.

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after a couple pages of posts, people learn to just ignore him.

I agree, Chichiri. and Vincent just got a nice update. I think that's the first one he's gotten of that size.

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"How about common sense?"

If you were using it, then it'd be great. Common sense doesn't say Sephiroth dropped by any means. Considering Frog he actually did pretty well on LS, as he should have really.

"If you don't havy any games, you drop."

Did you not see Crono beat Mario last year? It's more than apparent that said "common sense" does not actually apply to the contest, isn't necesarily common, and isn't at all sensible since the evidence is against it.

"What are you taling about? KH is the reason for the Square increase.."

But probably not for the reasons you think.

"Ever heard of comprehensive reading, or having an IQ of over 100?"

Ever heard of marked for flaming? I'm not going to do it (I've said worse), but I bet someone will.
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..argumenting?

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"Snake will decimate Bowser"

OH COME ON. If you thought that post was serious, take the nearest sharp object, and stab away. You're smarter than that, at least I hope so.

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"By the way stop making horrible arguements, I'm trying to watch a match here and keep forgetting how much ass Squall is kicking."

You're aware he's losing, right?
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Amazingly, that still sounds more plausible than Snake/Sora SFF.

It's the only other explanation. What happens when Bowser beats Snake, or at least make it close? Do I get to stamp you for being clinically insane too?


Ever heard of comprehensive reading, or having an IQ over 100? Because I wasn't talking to you, but good job owning yourself.

To go further on that, I even quoted what I was responding to... wow. You earned yourself a shiny gold sticker.

You were jumping on the bandwagon of sarcasm, which was originally directed at me.

Good job owning yourself.


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Extremely aware, but at the time he had been winning multiple updates, and when he lost them it was only a couple votes. But that last one sucked.

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OH COME ON. If you thought that post was serious, take the nearest sharp object, and stab away. You're smarter than that, at least I hope so.

Then what is your serious theory? Let's hear it.

'Argumenting' is not a word!

You know what I meant.
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