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*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawa tsoP

Hello
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"Making a whine topic on board 8 is like drinking gasoline. You're know its a bad idea but you're a moron so you do it anyway." - Jetaudio77

Just for the hell of it, I went ahead and did the "Optimum Bracket" based on the All-Time X-stats at MMX's site.

So, 1st vs. 64th, 2nd vs. 63rd, etc.

Of course, since the All-Time X-stats don't yet incorporate results from this contest, some of the seeding may seem wonky.

Hyrule Division:

1- Link
16- Sam Fisher

8- Tommy Vercetti
9- Donkey Kong

5- Aeris Gainsborough
12- Ness

4- Ryu
13- Revolver Ocelot

6- Sora
11- KOS-MOS

3- Auron
14- Kasumi

7- Alucard
10- Strider Hiryu

2- Sonic the Hedgehog
15- Dr. Wily

Zebes Division:

1- Samus Aran
16- Raziel

8- Dante
9- Morrigan Aensland

5- Zelda
12- Tails

4- Zero
13- Ryu Hayabusa

6- Squall Leonheart
11- Scorpion

3- Ganondorf
14- Viewtiful Joe

7- Yoshi
10- Aya Brea

2- Mega Man
15- Ridley

Jenova Division:

1- Sephiroth
16- HK-47

8- Knuckles
9- Jill Valentine

5- Shadow the Hedgehog
12- Ken Masters

4- Frog
13- Kefka

6- Vivi
11- Ramza Beoulve

3- Magus
14- Fox McCloud

7- Claire Redfield
10- Diablo

2- Crono
15- Jak

Midgar Division:

1- Cloud Strife
16- Kain

8- Liquid Snake
9- Luigi

5- Tidus
12- Yuna

4- Bowser
13- M. Bison

6- Master Chief
11- Wario

3- Solid Snake
14- Bomberman

7- Kirby
10- Felix

2- Mario
15- Nemesis

Well, looks like Vercetti and DK have a rematch in the "optimum" bracket. Think DK would win now?

Zero and Ryu face each other again, too.

On the whole, though, it's a surprisingly bad bracket. o_O
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

LOL XStats!

...for the win in User TagTeam II!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 69/76 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)

8- Knuckles

3- Magus

Heh.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters

Go Crono!
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

1- Link
8- Tommy Vercetti

5- Aeris Gainsborough
4- Ryu

6- Sora
3- Auron

7- Alucard
2- Sonic the Hedgehog

Zebes Division:

1- Samus Aran
8- Dante

5- Zelda
4- Zero

6- Squall Leonheart
3- Ganondorf

7- Yoshi
2- Mega Man

Jenova Division:

1- Sephiroth
8- Knuckles

5- Shadow the Hedgehog
4- Frog

6- Vivi
3- Magus

10- Diablo
2- Crono

Midgar Division:

1- Cloud Strife
9- Luigi (Liquid Snake before SC2k5 admittedly)

5- Tidus
4- Bowser

6- Master Chief
3- Solid Snake

7- Kirby
2- Mario

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1- Link
5- Aeris Gainsborough

3- Auron
2- Sonic the Hedgehog

Zebes Division:

1- Samus Aran
5- Zelda

3- Ganondorf
2- Mega Man

Jenova Division:

1- Sephiroth
4- Frog

3- Magus
2- Crono

Midgar Division:

1- Cloud Strife
4- Bowser

3- Solid Snake
2- Mario
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1- Link
2- Sonic the Hedgehog

Zebes Division:

1- Samus Aran
2- Mega Man (Gunna stick with MM)

Jenova Division:

1- Sephiroth
2- Crono

Midgar Division:

1- Cloud Strife
2- Mario

Borign after E8.
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Spring Contest 2k5 Score: 76/80 T-117th

Flood Division Round 3 - Match 53 – (1)Master Chief vs. (2)Crono
Another “Mainstream vs. Cult” clash!

Master Chief
Round 1 – vs. CATS (Chief: 68.83% - CATS: 31.17%)
Round 2 – vs. DK (Chief: 50.79% - DK: 49.21%)

Chief barely gets past Donkey Kong. That’s Halo 2 power for you!

Crono
Round 1 – vs. Zidane (Crono: 76.72% - Zidane: 23.28%)
Round 2 – vs. Tommy (Crono: 70.85% - Vercetti: 29.15%)

Crono beats Vercetti pretty badly, but it was expected.

Are you ready for a poll? Well, you better be!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1351 – Vercetti/DK

As you can see there, from 2003, Vercetti barely edged past DK, just like how Chief barely edged past DK. Now, since then, I would believe Vercetti has gone down, and DK up. So I would argue that Chief > DK > Vercetti. Still, look what Crono did to Vercetti. Chief isn’t that much stronger than him, so this should be ugly.

Simply, you don’t go in an all-day affair with DK, then try to beat Crono. Crono will own you if you do that. Chief is going to get owned.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Chief: 35% - Cronp: 65%



Ulti’s Analysis

Oh, this one will be hilarious to watch. Master Chief, in the year that Halo 2 was released, almost lost to Donkey Kong. I can't help but think at all of those people who thought that Halo 2 would propel MC to the level of the elites without laughing my ass off.

Oh yeah, there's a match to read into.

"Master Chief has the easiest path to call in the entire contest." -Tediz247

Damn right. I call it a moral victory for him if he manages to win an update or two, but I'll be stunned if he breaks 35% on Mr. DBZ.

Prediction: Crono with 66.66%



Soul’s Analysis

Round 2 Results

Chief defeated Donkey Kong: 50.79% - 49.21%

Crono defeated Vercetti: 70.85% - 29.15%

Well, why not finish this horribly seeded division. The strongest character in the division gets placed second to Master Chief. Master freakin' Chief!. As mediocre as Chief is, he is still nominated higher and has more support going into the next round then Crono. This is completely unnacceptible.

Anyways, to see the true sign of weakness from Master Chief, all that you have to look at is his second round match. I know, people say that Nintendo has become more popular as a whole, but DK is definitely one of the weaker Nintendo characters in this contest. He struggled with Vercetti. He struggled with Aya Brea. He lost to Vivi. Yet, Master Chief was losing by over 2000 votes in this match before coming back to win it. He was losing to Donkey Kong. If that's not a sign of an overrated character, then I don't want to know what is.

Of course, Crono was his usual, quiet self. After easily defeating Zidane, he got over 70% on Tommy Vercetti. It was somewhat expected, I believe.

As said in past matches, this is relatively an easy match to decide the winner. Crono has destroyed people who are a lot stronger then Donkey Kong. Master Chief better make his time.

My prediction: Crono wins with 63.45% of the vote. Now that the boring matches are done, bring on the tough ones!



Outback’s Analysis

Boring. MC has failed to impress, and Crono is up to his old tricks again. On the plus side, the pic is pretty good.

Crono with 63.00%
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)

Inviso’s Analysis

Master Chief, despite having won both of his matches to make it to round 3, has proven to be the weakest one seed in this contest. He performed horribly against CATS, who is fodder, and then went on to barely beat Donkey Kong, who is the weakest Nintendo character in this contest after Ness. Crono on the other hand was once again underseeded and given ANOTHER easy match on his way to the division finals. He blew out Zidane, via SFF or otherwise, and then blew out Tommy Vercetti. Now neither of these characters are all that strong, but still, he blew them out. Maybe after this match, Ceej will finally think to give Crono a one seed, because at the rate CT has been declining, given Magus’ and Frog’s horrible performances, it won’t be too long before Crono isn’t a contest powerhouse, but simply a midcarder, like so many others.

My Bracket: Crono
My Vote: Master Chief
My Prediction: Crono with 66.65%



Tnote’s Analysis

Crono is like a fine wine: getting better with age. Two years ago, MC got doubled by Aeris, who I would expect to not be able to defeat Crono in this contest setting. Since then, MC has had Halo blow up, and the release of the critically acclaimed, and super mega-ly sold, Halo 2. Crono's wineness will counteract Chief's blow'd-upness, and cancel out to result in a doubling for Crono.

Pick: Crono with 66.67%



Vlado’s Analysis


Master Chief needed an amazing comeback to beat Donkey Kong. Anyone who thinks he has any chance whatsoever aganst Crono is either not really up to date with contests or just overly optimistic. The only question here is by how much the Chief will get owned. Even if we assume that Crono has taken a fall since last year, like Magus and Frog, he'd have to have taken an enormous, impossible fall to lose here. And his breaking 70% on Vercetti proved that that's not the case. In short, Master Chief got as far as he could.
Bracket makers were lucky that he was put in this division, where he couldn't have been overestimated by us, we knew that even with a potential Halo 2 increase he'd lose to Crono. And it turned out that there was no increase at all.

As for Crono, this is finally a match against a respectable opponent for him. However, his win still won't prove all that much. It seems that we'll have to wait until his match against Tifa/Sonic/Megaman to see how strong he really is... Though I think that Vincent could eliminate him before he even makes it there.
Well... I guess it depends on how strong Vincent really is and whether he'd be able to SFF Crono. With Mario's immense strength my feeling that Crono once again won't get what he has deserved for so long is getting stronger and stronger...

Predicted percentage: Crono with 65.38%.

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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)

Moltar’s Prediction is: Chief: 35% - Cronp: 65%

Sir Crono is highly offended.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

I'd regret that quote about now if DK didn't totally suck in every way possible.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

lol sir crono more like sir CRONP
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Huh-CHA!

>.>

I fixed that in the Crew topic, but forgot to in Word.

Besides, Cronp is like the new Danta!
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)

Wrong quote. Crono doesn't say "...". Should have saved that for the Vincent/Squall matchup.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Cronp? More like CronOWN'D! AMIRITE?

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 73/80 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)

Kratos Auron is very displeased.
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BertTheOne | Can't hurt this Bert
Nominate Jay Solano for SC2K6!

Squal Leonhart is also a bit upset.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

Bowsur has a mild case of indigestion.
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Go ahead ********! Fire away! I've got a big turkey dinner here that says you don't have enough bullets to take down my hungry ***! ~ MG2 Run

Maria > Cronp
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Crono doesn't say anything! So '...' fits just fine darnit! Stop blasting my topic quotes... you are making baby Jesus weep =(

Squall is definitely better suited for a '...Whatever.'

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 73/80 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)

So...MC > Magus anyone? I thought it was going to happen before the contest, and it looks like it's been proven correct.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Magus is just about as strong as Knuckles. Do you believe that MC can defeat Knuckles?
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This is not a sig, just felt like writing something down here.

I dunno. Maybe Crono did SFF Magus a little bit. It's looking more and more like Knuckles isn't as weak as the unadjusted stats suggested.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Magus is just about as strong as Knuckles. Do you believe that MC can defeat Knuckles?

Well, nobody's predicting Crono to break 70% here, so that's why he said that.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

I've always put Knuckles ahead of DK. And by extension, MC as well. Barely. I also put him above Kirby. But after this year, that's going to change.
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To settle my score with you, I came dancing all the way up from the fires of hell.

Magus is just about as strong as Knuckles. Do you believe that MC can defeat Knuckles?

I'd probably take Donkey Kong over Knux.

And "..." is for the Squall match...I'm doubting that Crono vs. MC will fill a topic.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

I'd probably take Donkey Kong over Knux.

DK is not that strong. I couldn't see him giving Squall all he could handle.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Well, he wasn't that strong last year, but he's substantially stronger now. And since Squall looks to have dropped...
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

I'd rather wait and see what Squall does first before we say that for sure. Regardless, Donkey Kong has never been stronger than Knuckles.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Harrich made a topic on this recently, and most people went Knuckles > MC.
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http://picturesofwalls.com

Go Kirby!
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I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

That 500 post sure took a while. I was seriously F5-ing, waiting for someone to post it.

Let's hope it is true. >_>

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"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." ~ Isaac Asimov

Good. Someone did my dirty work for the 500.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

not a problem
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VOTE: BOWSER in the Summer Contest

Man, Kirby just owned Bowser on that last update. 57%, yo!

And none of those last three posts were true. Sad indeed.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Awesome sig arkenaga.

And Bowser > Snake?

please?

*cries*
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb

I believe mine was the only truthful one in the bunch (although, I think I agree with the 500 post).
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This is not a sig, just felt like writing something down here.

I find it funny that the 500 post came right as Kirby owned Bowser on that last update.

GG Bowser
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Hey Karma, Arent you hoping their is no sprite pics next round?
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SC2K5 Favorites - Solid Snake, Kirby, Mario, Leon Kennedy.

I am, but it's not exactly like my hoping is going to do anything about it. My motto is just to simply wait silently and hope, seeing as how worrying about it isn't going to do anything.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Here's the possible list of characters that could place last (number calculated up until Snake/Sora)

Carl “CJ” Johnson - 15.43% on Mario

Very unlikely, Mario would have to get less than 41.09% on Samus

Yuri Hyuga - 12.68% on Samus

So far the lowest character and has the best chance on staying there

Manny Calavera - 15.91% on Solid Snake

Snake would have to get less than 39.85% on Samus, before yesterday's match it was possible, but with Sora's beating it looks like Snake is stronger than his adjusted 2k4 numbers, but there's a slight chance.

King of All Cosmos - 23.26% on Kirby

Kirby would have to get less than 27.26% on Samus. This would probably be only possible if Bowser beats Snake and gets SFF by Mario. Kirby has gain from the last contest.

Chun-Li - 34.10% on Bowser

0% chance, Bowser is beating Kirby right now and KoAC is weaker than Chun-Li.

CATS - 31.17% on Master Chief

MC would have to get less than 20.34% on Samus, MC may not be as strong as he was in 2k4, but he hasn't dropped by that much.

Zidane Tribal - 23.28% on Crono

Crono would have to get less than 27.23% on Samus, next character!

Sarah Kerrigan - 21.00% on Vincent

Vincent would have to get less than 30.19% on Samus. It's possible if Vincent/Squall gets SFF by Crono.

Geno - 25.16% on Squall

Squall would have to get less than 25.20% on Samus. Cloud barley did better on Squall with SFF, not going to happen.

Jin Kazama - 23.85% on Sonic

Sonic would have to get less than 26.58% on Samus. Sonic did almost 20% better on Samus last year.

Vyse - 21.93% on Tifa

Tifa would have to get less than 28.91% on Samus. Wow I didn't know this would be possible, but Vyse has a great chance in coming in last.

Conker - 23.98% on Mega Man

Mega Man would have to get less than 26.44% on Samus. That's 6% better than Link.

Laharl - 26.34% on Yoshi

Yoshi would have to get less than 24.07% on Samus. Could happen, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

So the only characters that have any chance on getting it are Yuri, Manny Calavera, King of All Cosmos, Sarah Kerrigan, Vyse and Laharl. Some of them required getting SFF though.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Sprite Sonic Vs. Sprite Mega Man.

Who gets the pic advantage?
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This is not a sig, just felt like writing something down here.

I'm not expecting sprites the next round, and I wouldn't expect Snake to get that particular sprite anyway. Why people automatically jump to that conclusion is beyond me.

He can't do home field advantage consistently next round. This IS the sprite round, folks. Plain and simple.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Well, this round is more like 2k4's Elite Eight but with Home Field Advantage, it's not exactly out of the question that there be sprites, just without HFA. Just saying.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

I'm not expecting sprites the next round, and I wouldn't expect Snake to get that particular sprite anyway. Why people automatically jump to that conclusion is beyond me.

He can't do home field advantage consistently next round. This IS the sprite round, folks. Plain and simple.

No, this ISN'T the sprite round as MC/Crono cleary debunked that. Either Ceej isn't going to use sprites this year or he's simply saving them for a later round.

Maybe because he didn't know what to do with the likes of Master Chief, Vincent, or Tifa. Seph/Auron was pretty ugly last year. But I doubt he's specifically holding off on sprites for that reason. He probably just saw all the debates about Solid **** and didn't want to have that type of controversy possibly swaying the contest.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

With the day vote over Bowser shall gain most of his lead back. Too bad Kirby was close to 48%.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Crono doesn't have a polygon, and a sprite would clash pretty badly with it. This is as close as we're getting, I believe. It's always been the equivalent of the Sweet Sixteen.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Heh, that was weird. The five minute update percentage was the same as the match's current percentage.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

And just when it looked like Bowser was going to take the night vote, Kirby bounces back with 55% there.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine

Isn't it usually the same?
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)