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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 238
From: Nai | Posted: 9/8/2005 3:56:07 AM | Message Detail
About Solid Snake, my two cents:

I think you're overrating Sora and Alucard (especially Alucard) and are getting wrong indications on this. Just look at Snake/Zelda and you have a better idea of Snake's power... He's going to beat Bowser (or Kirby if he comes back), but won't have a chance against Mario/Samus... Especially this year with Nintendo boost.


About today's match... Well, I'll just wait the day vote and see if Kirby will make a comeback. I have Bowser in my bracket, but Kirby is a character I like... So I'd be happy with any result ;)
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From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/8/2005 3:56:18 AM | Message Detail
Solid Snake will beat Bowser.
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From: Gooper Blooper | Posted: 9/8/2005 3:57:01 AM | Message Detail
Not bad, Kirby.
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Chun-Li > Bowser book it - lol_internet
Vote for Kirby in SC2K5!
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/8/2005 3:57:25 AM | Message Detail
No amount of Winterfresh Ice can hide the fact that Kirby's doping; I've seen his type loitering at the Hot Topic. Durned mallrats making the streets unsafe for decent hard-working common folk.

Why, I saw that no-goodnik swallow some guy from The Corndog Factory just the other day.
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 9/8/2005 4:01:30 AM | Message Detail
Poor Kirbs.

This match confirms Kirby > Yoshi, but that was obvious anyway. I love Kirby, but I'd support Yoshi to beat him anyday. Hopefully, the two will never face.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/8/2005 4:57:47 AM | Message Detail
Kirby not doing too bad! The Puffball is hanging in there.

Keep it up Kirby!
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Kirby vs. Bowser - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Kirby (68/76)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:16:16 AM | Message Detail
*looks at results*

Holy crap, Kirby's making Bowser fight for it. I *never* expected him to keep it this close. Ryu must have fallen, because I can't see Tidus maintaining after what we've seen from the 20XX Division this year...
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:17:45 AM | Message Detail
Bowser looks like he's picking up. In the past 15 minutes, he's added 0.24%. And he gained upward to 60% of the vote. <3

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From: transience | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:26:48 AM | Message Detail
what funny updates..
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:26:56 AM | Message Detail
Oh, wow. Kirby won that update.

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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:34:16 AM | Message Detail
They share the same fanbase and draw a good portion of their strength from SSBM, so at least a few updates are gonna be somewhat skewed.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:34:18 AM | Message Detail
I take Ryu > Kirby back. I don't think this is rSFF at all, this is just Kirby kickin' ass.

we've had two Nintendo matches in three days, and both of them look to be relatively free of SFF. very nice to see.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:36:17 AM | Message Detail
Nah, they've both been pretty consistent. Kirby just won that update because Bowser had a big drop in his own votes rather than an increase in his.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Vortex268 | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:37:06 AM | Message Detail
I really thought Bowser would have a chance against Solid Snake.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:38:46 AM | Message Detail
Man, imagine the devastation if it had been Ryu v. Kirby in the second round...
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: transience | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:41:39 AM | Message Detail
I would have taken Ryu... seriously. I just thought Tidus was a lot stronger than he showed. before the contest started, I ranked them Bowser > Tidus > Kirby > Ryu.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:42:03 AM | Message Detail
Looks like Bowser is getting the morning vote.

So does anyone still think Bowser will beat Snake?

Right now Snake is coming into the match being the favorite, but there's a few matches I want to see first.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:42:10 AM | Message Detail
err, would have taken Kirby, sorry.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:45:41 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but if anything Ryu looked like he GAINED in '04, right? I know I would have taken Ryu over Kirby and not even thought twice about it. Hell, I had to struggle just to put Bowser over Ryu. = /
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/8/2005 5:54:26 AM | Message Detail
Bowser > Ryu > Tidus > Kirby going into this year for me.

Bowser/Ryu didn't freak me, but (>^_^)> doing so well up 'til now kinda weirds me out.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/8/2005 6:25:27 AM | Message Detail
I'm loving the rest of my bracket right now.
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From: Kegger9 | Posted: 9/8/2005 6:26:59 AM | Message Detail
Too bad Vincent will beat Squall
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/8/2005 6:44:54 AM | Message Detail
So I wake up this morning to Bowser below 55%. Yikes. I doubt Kirby could break 45% on Solid, so transitively I will give the major advantage to Snake right now. If Bowser pushes towards 57% with the day vote I will pull back a bit, but as of now, I think Bowser will do just a bit better than Zelda did against Snake. Unless of course we see Solid ****, in which case Bowser wins.

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SC2k5 - 69/76 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 6:48:28 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but I doubted Kirby could beat Ryu, and look where we are now. My bias gives the advantage to Snake, but not much else...
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Mugen no Jyuunin | Posted: 9/8/2005 6:56:06 AM | Message Detail
Wow. Kirby's doing excellent. Keeping it rather close during the last two updates. Hopefully he can end at 46% or higher. =)

I have to go to class in about 20 minutes, so hopefully I'll be happy when I get back. =)

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From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/8/2005 6:57:42 AM | Message Detail
VERY nice performance by Kirby here. ^_^
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:10:43 AM | Message Detail
Let's go Kirby break that 46
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From: Mugen no Jyuunin | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:12:24 AM | Message Detail
Seeing Kirby get ~48%+ per update for the last 15 minutes is great - hopefully it is a trend he can maintain while I'm gone. I wish I didn't have to leave. =(

Also, I want Castlevania: Dawn of Souls so badly now. It looks absolutely sublime...

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:38:22 AM | Message Detail
Kirby maintains his great job. Great job, Kirby; this is almost guaranteeing Solid > Bowser...almost (I don't wanna COMPLETELY jump the gun here).

So, now that we've seen the Villain Contest, Samus/Ganon, and Bowser/Kirby...are there STILL people who're gonna take Bowser over Ganon?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:39:55 AM | Message Detail
I'd take Bowser over Ganon, but as an 'upset' pick. Ganondorf would be the favorite in that match.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:40:04 AM | Message Detail
Do people still think that a DS game can't cause a character to increase in strength? Kirby is the real deal, here.

And to the people saying that Squall/Bowser is a tough match: stop looking at the Xsts.

~*ST*~
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From: Link2dapast | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:42:01 AM | Message Detail
Woa, I'm in my first psychology class... it's just an intro day though.

Bowser would easily beat Squall...Kirby just really went up.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:42:31 AM | Message Detail
OMG rSFF?>!?

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From: 6thDeus | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:45:37 AM | Message Detail
Man...I don't think I'll ever understand this Bowser love. Sure, I don't dislike the guy but still...he's become an unstoppable monster.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:46:36 AM | Message Detail
I love him for SMRPG, myself.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:46:50 AM | Message Detail
Unstoppable? *sees Kirby approaching 46%*
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From: 6thDeus | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:47:21 AM | Message Detail
Hm...is 46%...STOPPING Bowser?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:48:31 AM | Message Detail
I don't think Bowser needs rSFF to beat Ganondorf, they're close enough based on their matches with Sephiroth to give him a fighting chance.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:53:07 AM | Message Detail
I don't know Bowser is still unsure. Using adjusted 20XX for Tidus puts Bowser about level as his Spring numbers (using base Ganondorf), but using unadjusted puts Bowser at his 2k3. If you really look into this match it doesn't really help us much. I'm still saying that Sonic/Tifa will give us more answers to Snake/Bowser.
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From: Link2dapast | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:54:49 AM | Message Detail
Paper Mario and TTYD give Bowser my love.

"I'M BOWSER BABY!"
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From: kirbyjump | Posted: 9/8/2005 7:59:14 AM | Message Detail
Is Vincent strong enough to topple Crono? If he gets past Squall of course but I'm just assuming SFF goes to the more popular game.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:00:16 AM | Message Detail
Not stopping, no, but Bowser's chances of losing next round is rising nicely with Kirby's percentage.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:02:07 AM | Message Detail
Unless Vincent absolutely decimates Squall with SFF (which won't happen, though some SFF isn't out of the question)...well, no, Dante/Vincent still ensured that Crono's beating Vincent/Squall.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:02:54 AM | Message Detail
I think if any match will give us an answer to this, it'll be Vincent/Squall. Mostly because I think Dante's DMC3 boost will put him right about equal with Kirby's Nintendo/CC boost when all is said and done... <_________<
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: kirbyjump | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:05:23 AM | Message Detail
Okay, I figured as much. Although I assume there would be slight SFF in that match (you know there would), probably towards Crono though.

And on the matter of Snake vs. Bowser by performances so far I think Bowser has the upper hand in the match. So what if Snake crushed Sora, Sora is fodder.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:06:23 AM | Message Detail
AK would kill you if you said that to his face.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:06:40 AM | Message Detail
...35% on Samus is fodder?
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: kirbyjump | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:08:54 AM | Message Detail
Okay >_> not exactly "fodder" but he consistently gets beat by around the same percentage by the higher tier players. So around the same % on both Samus and Snake means absolutely nothing.
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"It's not the great who are strong, it's the strong who are great." - Albel Nox, Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:10:21 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1764
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2068

If Sora's fodder, what's Zero? A low midcarder? He did better on Mario than Sora did on Snake.
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From: Link2dapast | Posted: 9/8/2005 8:11:08 AM | Message Detail
No kirbyjump, you just don't know enough yet or haven't seen the other contests... things change...xsts became crap this year... 35% on both isn't reason enough to count sora as nothing.
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