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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 237
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:25:02 PM | Message Detail
you know, I just realized that if you used Snake/Frog, Frog/Riku and Snake/Sora that you can easily say Riku > Sora. obviously it's poor analysis, but it's funny nonetheless.

Yeah, Sora would SFF Riku.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:25:07 PM | Message Detail
But 5% is not an insignificant number. It might have a fairly big effect on where a character truly ranks on the totem pole.

For a match like this, but like I said if this was a fodder vs. fodder match it would be by more (but anything over 15% is too far)
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From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:27:23 PM | Message Detail
Sora SFFing Riku is the least of the problems with that analysis.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:27:59 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and, I wanna comment on the pics:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/br52.jpg

A comical pic; it's a good idea, though I'm curious if Kirby is goin' to be somewhat hurt by having a power that changes his look THAT much. Probably not.....

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/br53.jpg

Good idea, but the execution ain't impressin' me.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:28:33 PM | Message Detail
I give the pic factor no more than a 5% swing, unless it's a match between two fodders.

Fair enough... I've said that for quite some time now. I never said a picture would cause a massive 10% increase or drop for a person, but I don't agree with people saying that it doesn't play any factor at all for well known characters.
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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:30:16 PM | Message Detail
I like MC/Crono a lot. The best part is the dark background and atmosphere. I like it a lot more than Kirby/Bowser.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:31:55 PM | Message Detail
A comical pic; it's a good idea, though I'm curious if Kirby is goin' to be somewhat hurt by having a power that changes his look THAT much. Probably not.....

Come on now, it's KIRBY! How could you not recognize him? It simply looks like Kirby wearing a fur coat. It would have been HILARIOUS if he had used Bowser Kirby shooting fire right back at Bowser (Kirby Right Back At Ya! heh). That would REALLY show the essence of Kirby and why he's so loveable.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:33:06 PM | Message Detail
Yes, Sora is coming back strong with the day vote! 34.21. Keep on increasing >: )
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From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:33:37 PM | Message Detail
yep teh kiddies woke up, itll stop soon, its been making small leaps.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:34:12 PM | Message Detail
The day vote will be over soon.
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:34:21 PM | Message Detail
Kiddies woke up? It's 6:30, Sora just kicks ass with the day vote.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:34:27 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, Snake seems to have stemmed the bleeding for now. It's all up to see if he can start increasing in percentage again.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:35:43 PM | Message Detail
I think his percentage will keep decreasing or stayed constant throughout the night.. I don't think he'll be increasing it anymore..

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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:36:26 PM | Message Detail
Not that time, though. Man, Sora's vote totals have been all over the place today. He's been pulling within 60% on some updates to getting purely tripled in others.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:38:53 PM | Message Detail
At 16:35:00
Snake vs. Sora Votals: 74415
Samus vs. Ganon Votals: 69328

Looks like this match will end around 96-97K

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka
From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:39:38 PM | Message Detail
nothing suspicous, though. Sora should cut at this lead for a couple hours more.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:39:55 PM | Message Detail
Sora didn't start falling on Alucard until 10:45 EST.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:41:24 PM | Message Detail
Man, Snake's really getting his ass kicked right now.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:42:21 PM | Message Detail
yeah, makes you wish you could see each person that is doing the voting, so you could slap them upside the head
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:45:51 PM | Message Detail
Bleh. Horrible outcome on this match.

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:45:52 PM | Message Detail
Man, Snake's really getting his ass kicked right now.

Yes, if still pulling in 60% of the vote can ever be called as such...
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:48:13 PM | Message Detail
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:45:51 PM | Message Detail
Bleh. Horrible outcome on this match.


I know. Snake should have more.
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From: FFaddict1313 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:52:05 PM | Message Detail
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:48:13 PM | #272
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:45:51 PM | Message Detail
Bleh. Horrible outcome on this match.

I know. Snake should have much less.
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makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.


Fixed.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:52:39 PM | Message Detail
I know. Snake should have more.

Unfixed.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:53:03 PM | Message Detail
Hey Draco, did you ever figure out a sig for me to use?
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:53:03 PM | Message Detail
Snake should have significantly less, actually.


Well, if we were going for that good outcome. I didn't expect Snake to stay around 65% -- I figured something like 60% at the end of the match.

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“What is it that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” – Sephiroth
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:58:48 PM | Message Detail
No, not really. I don't care anymore about the sig bet.
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makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:59:45 PM | Message Detail
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/7/2005 4:53:03 PM | Message Detail
Snake should have significantly less, actually.


Well, if we were going for that good outcome. I didn't expect Snake to stay around 65% -- I figured something like 60% at the end of the match.


At least he isn't losing to Bowser >_>
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From: Starion | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:02:16 PM | Message Detail
Is that a sure thing though (based on stats, current performance, intuition, etc.)? I haven't seen a lot of discussion on Bowser-Snake.
From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:04:42 PM | Message Detail
then you weren't in here for the two weeks after the bracket was announced. I'd say Bowser-Snake was among the top five talked about matches.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:05:01 PM | Message Detail
Other than an absolute collapse by Kirby, I can't envision Snake not going into the match as the favorite. His performance today has surpassed nearly 100% of Board 8 expectations, and we can't attribute it to something as silly as SFF while keeping a straight face. He's just been kicking ass.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:08:39 PM | Message Detail
Snake > Zelda > Bowser

Book it.
From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:08:39 PM | Message Detail
I think Snake-Zelda is a better predictor than Snake-Sora. I'd be surprised if Zelda outdid Bowser and she got 45%. it should be a close match.

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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:09:22 PM | Message Detail
I agree with MegatokyoEd.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:28:05 PM | Message Detail
My prediction for tomorrow:

Bowser over Kirby with 53.27%
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:33:37 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't be surprised if Bowser pulled Squall like numbers
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:35:01 PM | Message Detail
And I expect Kirby to give Bowser quite the scare for the first few hours.
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makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:35:28 PM | Message Detail
If Kirby makes it close, barring rSFF I'm going to feel exceedingly confident in Snake. I *can't* see Kirby above Zelda.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:36:08 PM | Message Detail
Bowser with 50.05%

REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY'D <_<

Let's go Bowser!
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:40:30 PM | Message Detail
Dream Division Round 3 - Match 52 – (1)Kirby vs. (3)Bowser
Nintendownage!

Kirby
Round 1 – vs. Cecil (Kirby: 75.21% - Cecil: 24.79%)
Round 2 – vs. Tidus (Kirby: 57.65% - Zelda: 42.35%)

Kirby crushes Tidus pretty easily. How the lame have gotten even lamer.

Bowser
Round 1 – vs. Chun-Li (Bowser: 65.90% - Chun-Li: 34.10%)
Round 2 – vs. Ryu (Bowser: 58.98% - Ryu: 41.02%)

Bowser 2-0 against SF characters. He gives Ryu quite the beating too.

Well, I expected Tidus to be here, but since he isn’t, I’ll have to deal with…Kirby….*cheers*

Alright, 2 Nintendo characters. The first thing you’ll want to cry is, SFF! Well, don’t. We’ve already seen Samus/Ganondorf, and there wasn’t a giant amount of SFF there. There was barely any, as a matter of fact. Now, I would say Kirby and Bowser are just as different as Samus and Ganondorf are from each other. Therefore, I’m not expecting much in the case of SFF here. I think Bowser will win because he’s the legitimately strong character. Kirby is pretty good himself, but I wouldn’t call him as strong as Bowser. The Puffball should do well though. He did beat Tidus after all. ^___________^

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Bowser will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Kirby: 44% - Bowser: 56%



Ulti’s Analysis

It looks like Bowser should take this match with ease at a glance, but after looking at the first two rounds, this one is actually hard to call. Kirby absolutely destroyed Tidus in a match that most people on the board expected Tidus to win, while Bowser went and crushed Ryu into oblivion. I still think that Bowser can win this, but a lot of support going Kirby's way would not surprise me. He likely has more bracket support, plus he actually stars in his own recent hit. Bowser, awesome as he is, is a sidekick to Mario. It'll be interesting to see where the SFF goes, assuming there even is any.

Prediction: Bowser with 55.55%



Soul’s Analysis

Round 2 Results

Kirby defeated Tidus: 57.65% - 42.35%
Bowser defeated Ryu: 58.98% - 41.02%


This match is not in doubt at all. Bowser is going to demolish Kirby. There could be SFF in here (Nintendo/Nintendo matches usually get somewhat ugly) as well. Here's hoping we get a good match.

My prediction: Bowser wins with 65%. "I know what you're thinking....all this power, AND looks, too!" Bowser the Great.



Outback’s Analysis

At first glance, this match looks really obvious. Bowser is the stronger Nintendo character; he'll receive SFF along with having scored 40% on Sephiroth in Spring. However, Kirby might be able to put up a fight here. Tripling Cecil and scoring 57 on Tidus are not accomplishments to be brushed aside lightly. The real question is whether or not Tidus or Ryu dropped or rose since last year, since that will give you the real gauge of their strength. I have a feeling that Tidus was placed well in the 2k4 stats, and that Ryu may have slightly fell, but not enough to put Bowser below Kirby.

Bowser with 56.00%

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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Snake vs. Sora - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (64/72)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:40:43 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

After three years of tragedy, Kirby finally got the chance. He made it farther in the contest than Dante. Congratulations to Kirby, because he es not dum. Anyway, Kirby is one of the three weak one seeds, which probably didn’t deserve that seeding in the first place, but still…he blew out an FF character, and then beat a more popular FF character that managed to give Ganondorf a run for his money. I attribute this, once again, to the massive Nintendo gain, and FFX’s falling in popularity. Anyway, on the other side, we had Bowser, who beat two Street Fighter characters considerably well, but Street Fighter isn’t exactly a force like it once was. It’s not fair, but what are you going to do. Anyway, Bowser’s got this one won pretty well, because when Nintendo faces Nintendo, Mario, Zelda, and Metroid trump all others. Bowser will probably be able to SFF Kirby, but not to the extent that Mario would SFF Ness. He might not even SFF all that much, but it’ll be enough to win.

My Bracket: Bowser Koopa
My Vote: Kirby
My Prediction: Bowser Koopa with 57.44%



Tnote’s Analysis

Another SSB:M match. Bowser showed against Ness that SFF can be quite cruel. Kirby put up numbers on Tidus last round that practically make him a lock for the Final Four. Kirby will not suffer SFF as badly as Ness did, but he still will not be done any favors from the Nintendo faithful. He has many games, across many generations to draw from, but in the end he is solely a Nintendo product, and Bowser will hold voting advantages on the vast majority of Nintendo opponents, except Mario, Samus and Link.

Pick: Bowser with 58.27%



Vlado’s Analysis

Well, this match is pretty much clear. Both contestants defeated their opponents in Round 2 with similar scores, however, Snake beat Zelda, fully benefiting from the Nintendo increase, while Sora beat Alucard, who, as much as I hate to say it, has been dropping in popularity. I read some bull**** about Snake possibly losing here and stuff... All I can say is NO. He beat Zelda, no way he falls to Sora. OR Bowser, for that matter. I'm pretty sure that Zelda is about as strong as Bowser, maybe just a little bit weaker. Anyway, my point is that Sora will lose worse than Zelda did. It was common sense right before Snake vs. Zelda that the winner would make the Final Four. And the winner was Snake.

What interests me the most is whether Snake has gotten stronger since last year. So far, we have no indications towards a boost or a fall, though I must say that he handled Zelda in a very comfortable fashion, giving me some hopes of a rise. But I can't be sure... Either way, there's no way Snake makes the final. Mario will crush him in the semis, and he'll be lucky to even get past Bowser. As for Sora, I must say that he has been a very lucky little ******* these past two years, making it to the Sweet 16 without being really strong. But that's the end of the road for him.

Predicted percentage: Solid Snake with 58.67%.

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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Snake vs. Sora - Bracket: Snake - Vote: Snake (64/72)
From: arkenaga | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:45:18 PM | Message Detail
Is that Vlado's Sora vs Snake analysis?
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From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:45:50 PM | Message Detail
Vlado's a bit behind the times, huh?
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From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:47:52 PM | Message Detail
All respectable, except for Soul.

What's up with Vlado? Trying to say something?
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:53:22 PM | Message Detail
Snake is gonna kick Sora's ass SO HARD that the next Noble Nine wannabe is gonna feel it.

But "no way (Snake) falls to Sora. OR Bowser, for that matter... and he'll be lucky to even get past Bowser" sorta kinda really throws me. Copy-paste glitch?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:56:45 PM | Message Detail
Snake is gonna kick Sora's ass SO HARD that the next Noble Nine wannabe is gonna feel it.

>XD

Off topic, but does anyone have the link to that Van Damme ytmnd?
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From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:57:03 PM | Message Detail
Vlado's engaging in doublethink, apparently.
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/7/2005 5:59:45 PM | Message Detail
http://kickbisonsass.ytmnd.com/
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 6:02:30 PM | Message Detail
I really need to start using that quote more.
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From: XxBilly2xX | Posted: 9/7/2005 6:04:50 PM | Message Detail
All respectable, except for Soul.

Let's wait until the actual match.
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