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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 236
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:11:55 AM | Message Detail
So uh, what the hell? Sora going back to messing up the X-Stats? What a dick.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:13:17 AM | Message Detail
heh, I am reminded of the Snake/Sora SFF guy that went on for about 350 posts..
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From: rpgapzx | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:13:32 AM | Message Detail
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:04:41 AM | Message Detail
Still, damn. How about that 49% for Samus? Pitiful.

Big deal. Prediction percentage means nothing. Cloud won an entire contest with less than ten percent correctly predicting it.


I generally agree with this but even Cloud had 73.13% making the Elite 8(with comparable roads) and 54.13% maknig the Final Four. It's only when he walked up against Link that his percentage dropped greatly.

Bracket representation strength might only make a minimal difference but it's definitely not been a good sign for him coming out of what the Board would consider a no-brainer division(though I'm srue this number is inaccurate because of over estimation of SpC2k5 Ganon.) Anything can help with the uncertainity that is Mario/Samus. I know I'd rather have Mario's 80% PP right now.

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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:16:13 AM | Message Detail
Come on Snake, push for that tripling!!

I don't do it much... but lol.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: transience | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:16:52 AM | Message Detail
jesus, and he goes up. this is out of hand.

I'm going to bed. night.

quick thought - any chance the picture is causing a massive overperformance? I don't think so, but Snake is just destroying Sora. or maybe it's possible that Snake's always been underrated thanks to always having awful pictures.

either way, night.
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From: creativename | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:17:33 AM | Message Detail
Samus' low prediction percentage shouldn't surprise anyone. I was going to make a post about how Samus' would probably have a surprisingly low prediction percentage, but I didn't bother because I saw others already predicting it was going to be in the high 40's or 50's. So it didn't need to be said.

The general bracketmakers clearly have little faith in Samus; this was also exemplified by how little Samus pickers there were in the top 50 relative to Mario/Crono pickers, until recently.

And Ganon obviously had a lot of general bracket support, as we expected.

It really doesn't bode badly for Samus in the least. In terms of her match with Mario, it's a total non-factor.
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From: Xuxon | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:18:52 AM | Message Detail
This is sort of like Vincent vs Kerrigan to a lesser extent. Somewhat disputed but not even remotely close.
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From: creativename | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:19:47 AM | Message Detail
Well, I suppose it's possible that because he's so ugly, Snake is just very sensitive to his picture.

In any case there's clearly a large level of non-linearity here. (unless Vivi really was SFFed last year and Zelda went up a lot; or Vivi actually went up this year; which I highly doubt, and only mentioned them for the sake of completeness)
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:20:12 AM | Message Detail
Wow Snake Wow.

This raises a question.

HOW STRONG IS ZELDA?!?!
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:20:34 AM | Message Detail
Sora is weak as pie with the night vote, whilst Bowser is made of sterner stuff. Alucard had Sora beat for just under an hour and a half before he finally took and kept his lead.

The day votes is what'll matter in their match, 'lest one of them takes it early and decisively. Though Sora looking like a sad lil' ***** right now kinda throws a wrench in that idea. *sweatdrop*

LOL clownshoes...
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From: rpgapzx | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:20:43 AM | Message Detail
It really doesn't bode badly for Samus in the least. In terms of her match with Mario, it's a total non-factor.

Again, generally agreed because I don't think it will be close, but if it is bracket voting could push a small shift and we all know who that's favoring.

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From: creativename | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:20:48 AM | Message Detail
This is massively more surprising than Vincent vs. Kerrigan. Sora has a pretty good track record.
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:21:10 AM | Message Detail
HOW STRONG IS ZELDA?!?!

Pretty doggone strong, apparently.
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From: Smurf87 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:21:38 AM | Message Detail
OMG!

This is the single biggest shock for me this contest. I figured that Sora would at the very least get 45%

Seriously... just wow.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:21:54 AM | Message Detail
I'm desperately hoping CJayC gives Snake a similar picture next round, and for the love of all that is good, do not envelope it in Bowser's fire breath!
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:22:50 AM | Message Detail
A much better update for Sora.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:23:02 AM | Message Detail
Good lord. Solid Snake for the contest win?
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:23:13 AM | Message Detail
Well this is going to go down a little bit and Snake still has no shot. I pick Zero to defeat Sora by over 56-44 of the vote and he got creamed by Mario.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:28:36 AM | Message Detail
Y'know maybe Vivi didn't drop a bit, Zelda's just that good, and Snake really is around 35% this year. Heck, 2k4 Sora's got him at 40% right now... heh.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:32:10 AM | Message Detail
This contest is really weird. I mean the Noble Nine is appearing to be extremely strong. Take Mario/Zero, Samus/Dorf (if no SFF does exist), Snake/Sora, and Sonic/Diablo. Crono doing his thing and that only leaves Mega Man sucking it.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:35:05 AM | Message Detail
Now watch, Bowser going to turn around and beat Kirby 65-35 and we are seriously going to be wondering what is going on. If you take a constant Ryu, Bowser is stronger than Crono.
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From: Jericoholic | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:35:29 AM | Message Detail
FACT or FICTION: Sora will do better than 2K4 Knuckles.

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I don't have an ego.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:36:49 AM | Message Detail
Snake was never even beating Knuckles this bad.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:37:48 AM | Message Detail
Hah, Snake was doing worse than this on 2k4 Knux at this point, and Knuckles' day vote is far more renowned than Sora's. My fanboyism screams FICTION, and I'm going with it!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Jericoholic | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:38:13 AM | Message Detail
Or maybe Agent 47 really is Neo Tanner...

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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:39:08 AM | Message Detail
How about SFF here. I mean if we believe Sephiroth can SFF Liquid, its not a stretch to believe Snake can SFF Sora.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:40:03 AM | Message Detail
Hey, wasn't someone here arguing that Snake would SFF Sora earlier in the topic around Alucard/Sora? <_<
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:41:40 AM | Message Detail
I don't believe Sephiroth could effectively SFF Liquid and I don't believe Snake's SFFing Sora.

Snake at Samus levels, boy! I love it. (if only he could hold this)
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:41:54 AM | Message Detail
I don't think many of us believe that Sephiroth can "SFF" Liquid. Sora is just too awed in the presence of the iconic Solid Snake, and really, who could blame him?
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:42:05 AM | Message Detail
I think we should just all say lol xstats and call it a night.
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From: creativename | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:42:26 AM | Message Detail
The picture influence seems a lot more believable than SFF.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:43:16 AM | Message Detail
Snake has always been held back because of his awful pictures. Now witness the might of the real Solid Snake!
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:43:38 AM | Message Detail
It may be a Metal Gear esque situation, but I'd vote Sora if it were based just off of pics. Seriously, that (!) over his head is priceless.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:44:02 AM | Message Detail
Huzzah!




Is it me, or do Snake fans only come out at night?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:44:26 AM | Message Detail
Why do you think he does so well at this time, anyway?
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:46:24 AM | Message Detail
Y'know maybe Vivi didn't drop a bit, Zelda's just that good, and Snake really is around 35% this year. Heck, 2k4 Sora's got him at 40% right now... heh.

If you assume Vivi was SFFed by Sephiroth, and extrapolate through DK 2k3, Snake goes up to 39.47. It's interesting to note that DK through Master Chief and DK through Sam Fisher (through Gordon Freeman 2k3 OR through an adjusted Magus) all place DK very close to that 2k3 level.

However, Sora currently places Snake above 47% on 2k3 Link, which is a different story entirely.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:50:30 AM | Message Detail
Screwed up the X-Stats formula... Snake at 47%? Whoo! (not that it'll last or necessarily means anything even if it does)
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:52:01 AM | Message Detail
Snake is still increasing his percentage. Increasing!

Honestly, since the unadjusted statistics seem to be the 'correct' ones...with all this, wherever Snake realistically finishes, has he taken the biggest annual leap in the entire contest?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:52:36 AM | Message Detail
Snake is still climbing. At this point, he could realistically stabilize at 70% before the day vote kicks in.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:54:43 AM | Message Detail
Honestly, since the unadjusted statistics seem to be the 'correct' ones...with all this, wherever Snake realistically finishes, has he taken the biggest annual leap in the entire contest?

Ganondorf. =)

*dodges countless bricks*
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From: Jericoholic | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:55:53 AM | Message Detail
Going from losing to CATS to getting 60% on Samus is quite a boost.

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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:56:05 AM | Message Detail
Ganondorf. =)

*dodges countless bricks*


*throws a brick to distract you*

*sneaks up behind you and snaps your neck*
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From: gamerkid17 | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:56:40 AM | Message Detail
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:56:47 AM | Message Detail
Snake's going for 70% in a hurry! I'm thinking he will finish higher than Samus did at this rate. How much can Sora possibly take back come daytime?
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:57:55 AM | Message Detail
This coming? Snake is outperforming Samus on a common opponent. You think Snake's fanbase has even been comparable to hers in past years?
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Jericoholic | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:58:15 AM | Message Detail
Well, Knuckles takes about 9%, so I say Sora could do 5$.

But this pic may be screwing this match up big time.

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I don't have an ego.
I'm way too cool for that.
From: Xuxon | Posted: 9/7/2005 12:59:22 AM | Message Detail
I think Snake can still manage to find his way under Samus's percentage, but if he can, it won't be by much.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 9/7/2005 1:03:41 AM | Message Detail
By the way, with this match it now looks like the biggest threat to the Noble Nine is the possibility of Mega Man losing to Yoshi. How weird would it be if Snake beats Bowser and Mega Man loses to Yoshi?
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/7/2005 1:04:17 AM | Message Detail
These vote totals are abysmal right now. It's behind Sephiroth/Vergil at this point... heheheh.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: futuresuperstar | Posted: 9/7/2005 1:04:37 AM | Message Detail
It appears that Sora desired eternal rest.

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