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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 236
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:16:47 PM | Message Detail
Sora could indeed do better than Zelda. I'm not entirely sold on the idea that he will though.
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From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:16:50 PM | Message Detail
Moltar, did I send you my Snake/Sora analysis?
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From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:17:18 PM | Message Detail
I have Samus winning in my bracket, but I would be so happy to see Mario winning.

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From: Dark115 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:17:44 PM | Message Detail
I'm expecting high 50's, and as long as Bowser doesn't destroy Kirby, I still have faith in Snake > Bowser.

But couldn't bowser still destroy Kirby based on SFF, i mean he did it to Ness, and I'm not saying Ness is Kirby but it is possible
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:20:10 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, you did Soul.

And I think Kirby is strong enough, and is distant enough from Bowser's fanbase, to get SFF'd tommorrow, at least badly.

Kinda like today's match.
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Samus vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Ganon (60/68)
From: transience | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:23:24 PM | Message Detail
you mean to not get SFFed badly?

and I'd vote Samus over everyone left in the bracket.
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From: cyko | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:32:59 PM | Message Detail
bah. i really thought Samus would beat Ganondorf quite a bit worse due to SSBM SFF. unfortunately, we have no way of knowing how much, if any, SFF Samus is dishing out today. even though most of the last topic was devoted to that argument...... >_>

yeesh.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/br51.jpg

XD!! i'm so glad that Ceej has a sense of humor. that is easily the best pic Snake has ever gotten.

oh, and i don't think anyone else mentioned this yet, but if Ganondorf and Diablo stayed constant from the Spring Contest, Sonic would be expected to get 45.19% on Ganondorf. so, yeah, all those delusional Sonic fanboys should give up on any possibility of him winning the contest.

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From: sidharta | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:33:09 PM | Message Detail
Wow, if there's no SFF in this match, Samus > Seph is a lock already.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:34:28 PM | Message Detail
oh, and i don't think anyone else mentioned this yet, but if Ganondorf and Diablo stayed constant from the Spring Contest, Sonic would be expected to get 45.19% on Ganondorf. so, yeah, all those delusional Sonic fanboys should give up on any possibility of him winning the contest.

???

65% > 70%
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From: sidharta | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:34:56 PM | Message Detail
oh, and i don't think anyone else mentioned this yet, but if Ganondorf and Diablo stayed constant from the Spring Contest, Sonic would be expected to get 45.19% on Ganondorf.

You mean on Samus, right?

Sonic should still beat Ganon...

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:35:03 PM | Message Detail
I predict no SFF in Kirby/Bowser, now that I think harder on it, because of one match: Bowser/Yoshi. In that match, despite Bowser being in most/all games than Yoshi and almost always having a bigger role, only managed to keep Yoshi at 43.66% in 2k3. Kirby's arguably been stronger than Yoshi these past two years, and Kirby's from a different series of his own (and more important to Kirby games than Yoshi is to Mario games, though Yoshi also has afew lesser-known games of his own to draw support). Then, throw in that Kirby's in SSB/M while Bowser's just in SSBM and that Kirby is widely enjoyed by most players in both games (to my experience, moreso than Yoshi) while Bowser is ridiculed...

...Bowser may be stronger this year than in 2k3, that's just about a given, but SFF may very well be a non-factor in Kirby/Bowser despite that.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:35:27 PM | Message Detail
Hmph. It sucks to know the first match I won't stay up for will be Sora/Snake. Maybe If I go to sleep now,and set my alarm to 3.

Anyway...you're wrong. Unless you're FastFalcon or me, you're wrong. Yeah.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:35:42 PM | Message Detail
You got it the wrong way Cyko
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:35:45 PM | Message Detail
Bowser will do worse against Kirby than against Ryu.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:36:40 PM | Message Detail
I think Bowser/Kirby is very difficult to predict, at least in terms of percentages. it's much more difficult than this match, at least. Bowser could get anywhere from 55-65%, I'd say.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:37:58 PM | Message Detail
oh, and i don't think anyone else mentioned this yet, but if Ganondorf and Diablo stayed constant from the Spring Contest, Sonic would be expected to get 45.19% on Ganondorf. so, yeah, all those delusional Sonic fanboys should give up on any possibility of him winning the contest.

So 65% on Diablo > 70% on him?
From: cyko | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:38:28 PM | Message Detail
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/6/2005 7:35:42 PM | Message Detail | #033
You got it the wrong way Cyko


er, my bad..... i meant that Ganondorf would get 45.19% on Sonic. whoops, heh.

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From: OhfensivContent | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:43:08 PM | Message Detail
I think Sora will do significantly better on Snake than Zelda did. Funny how Snake had two of the worst pics this contest, and now he has one of the best ever.


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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:43:40 PM | Message Detail
My favorites out of what's left in the Sweet 16

1. Mario
2. Yoshi
3. Bowser
4. Sonic
5. Mega Man
6. Kirby
7. Samus
8. Solid Snake
9. Ganondorf
10. Zero
11. Crono
12. Master Chief
13. Tifa
14. Squall
15. Vincent
16. Sora

Funny, I like most of these characters
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From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:44:49 PM | Message Detail
who wishes a sonic vs mario final is possible

*Raises hand*
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:46:38 PM | Message Detail
*also raises hand*
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:47:39 PM | Message Detail
Eh, why not?

Favorites (out of sweet 16):

1) Solid Snake
2) Tifa Lockheart
3) Mario
4) Sonic
5) Bowser
6) Yoshi
7) Squall Leonhart
8) Samus
9) Ganondorf
10) Mega Man
11) Kirby
12) Master Chief
13) Vincent Valentine
14) Crono
15) Sora
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:48:33 PM | Message Detail
My favorites.

10/10

1.Sora

8/10

2.Squall

6/10

3. Yoshi
4. Kirby
5. Sonic

1/10

6. Vincent
7. Tifa
8. Crono
9. Mario
10. Bowser
11. Master Chief
12. Ganondorf
13. Zero
14. Mega Man
15. Solid Snake
16. Samus

Just predicting where Snake would be if I had played MGS.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:48:49 PM | Message Detail
Mario/Sonic or Mario/Mega would be the best. Here's to hopin'.....
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From: transience | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:54:04 PM | Message Detail
mine:

1. samus
2. crono
3. mega man
4. tifa
5. sonic
6. zero
7. ganon
8. yoshi
9. kirby
10. bowser
11. vincent
12. snake
13. sora
14. mario
15. master chief
16. squall

I don't really like any of them past #4.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:55:41 PM | Message Detail
Now Dorf only needs 4.7% SFF to be equal to his Spring numbers. Really with two characters from the same company, 4.7 is really minimal.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/6/2005 4:57:51 PM | Message Detail
I think Sora will do significantly better on Snake than Zelda did.

He really can't do significantly better without coming close to winning, and I don't think Snake will ever be in danger of losing.

My favorites out of who's left:

1. Squall Leonhart
2. Kirby
3. Solid Snake
4. Tifa Lockheart
5. Sonic the Hedgehog
6. Mario
7. Bowser Koopa
8. Zero
9. Crono
10. Yoshi
11. Mega Man
12. Vincent Valentine
13. Sora
14. Samus Aran
15. Master Chief
16. Ganondorf
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:00:33 PM | Message Detail
Mine:

1. Mega Man
2. Ganondorf
3. Bowser
4. Mario
5. Sonic
6. Tifa
7. Snake
8. Samus
9. Kirby
10. Crono
11. Zero
12. Sora
13. Yoshi
14. Master Cheif
15. Vincent
16. Squall
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:01:24 PM | Message Detail
Here's my order, out of the sweet 16.

1. Mario
2. Yoshi
3. Kirby
4. Mega Man
5. Sonic
6. Samus
7. Zero
8. Bowser
9. Ganondorf
10. Crono
11. Sora
12. Tifa
13. Vincent
14. Squall
15. Snake
16. Master Chief

That was tough...
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:02:18 PM | Message Detail
Why not?

1. Zero
2. Sonic
3. Bowser
*gap*
4. Tifa
5. Samus
*gap*
6. Sora
7. Crono
8. Mega Man
9. Master Chief
10. Mario
11. Solid Snake
12. Squall
*gap*
13. Yoshi
14. Kirby
15. Ganondorf (I USED to like Ganon)
16. Vincent

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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:02:32 PM | Message Detail
1. Kirby
2. Solid Snake
3. Mario
4. Mega Man
5. Bowser
6. Master Chief *ducks*
7. Zero
8. Squall
9. Tifa
10. Samus
11. Sora
12. Yoshi
13. Vincent
14. Sonic
15. Ganondorf
16. Crono

That's how I'd order them. 15 and 16 are my two least favorite in the bracket, and I don't care that much for 11-down. (though none of them except 15 and 16 are bad)

Love the Snake/Sora pic... love it. Mario/Zero's got nothing on that one.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:02:49 PM | Message Detail
My Favorites:
1. Yoshi
2. Sora
3. Mario
4. Bowser Koopa
5. Master Chief
6. Squall Leonhart
7. Zero
8. Ganondorf
9. Solid Snake
10. Samus Aran
11. Sonic the Hedgehog
12. Mega Man
13. Tifa Lockheart
14. Kirby
15. Crono
16. Vincent Valentine

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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:03:10 PM | Message Detail
::Cries at the lack of Ganon and Mega Man love::
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:04:03 PM | Message Detail
::Cries at the lack of Ganon and Mega Man love::

That's nothing compared to the lack of Sora love.
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:04:16 PM | Message Detail
Might as well...

01) Squall Leonhart
02) Solid Snake
03) Mega Man
04) Ganondorf
05) Sonic
06) Zero
07) Mario
08) Samus
09) Bowser
10) Yoshi
11) Sora
12) Kirby
13) Tifa Lockheart
14) Master Chief
15) Vincent Valentine
16) Crono

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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:07:19 PM | Message Detail
What the heck.

1. Bowser
2. Solid Snake
3. Mario
4. Ganondorf
5. Kirby
6. Tifa
7. Sonic
8. Zero
9. Mega Man
10. Squall
11. Vincent
12. Samus
13. Crono
14. Yoshi
15. Sora
16. Master Chief
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:07:59 PM | Message Detail
1. Sonic the Hedgehog
2. Bowser Koopa
3. Vincent Valentine
4. Tifa Lockheart
5. Solid Snake
6. Zero
7. Kirby
8. Mario
9. Ganondorf
10. Yoshi
11. Samus Aran
12. Sora
13. Crono
14. Mega Man
15. Master Chief
16. Squall Leonhart
From: transience | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:08:53 PM | Message Detail
very little Samus love amongst the stat people. tsk tsk.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:09:55 PM | Message Detail
In all seriousness, it's not Sora, Ganondorf, or even Master Chief that seems most hated here... it seems to be Vincent... heheh.

No wonder Dante lead him for a while.
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From: OhfensivContent | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:10:31 PM | Message Detail
What the hell...

1) Squall
2) Solid Snake
3) Sora
4) Sonic
5) Samus
6) Zero
7) Yoshi
8) Mario
9) Mega Man
10) Bowser
11) Ganondorf
12) Tifa
13) Kirby
14) Vincent
15) Master Chief
16) Crono

Hooray for if your name starts with S you rock! >_>


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From: Habito | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:10:55 PM | Message Detail
Meh, here's my list if anyone cares.

Mario
Yoshi
Crono
Mega Man
Bowser
Samus
*gap*
Ganondorf
Sonic
Zero
Tifa
Squall
Vincent
Solid Snake
*gap*
Sora
Master Chief
*gap*
Kirby
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From: OhfensivContent | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:12:23 PM | Message Detail
He really can't do significantly better without coming close to winning, and I don't think Snake will ever be in danger of losing.

By significantly better I mean like 3k. >_>

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:14:10 PM | Message Detail
Well, depending on the vote totals, Sora could lose by a smaller margin and still do about as well (or worse) than Zelda.
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From: Aprosenf | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:18:59 PM | Message Detail
Everyone's doin' it, so here goes:

1. Mario
2. Sonic
3. Mega Man
4. Crono
5. Zero
6. Squall
7. Sora
8. Samus
9. Kirby
10. Yoshi
11. Solid Snake
12. Bowser
13. Tifa
14. Ganondorf
15. Vincent
16. Master Chief
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:20:51 PM | Message Detail
Meh, here's my list if anyone cares.

[1]Mario
[2]Yoshi


Nice one, that's my number 1 and 2 as well.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:22:43 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Sora will put up a fight tomorrow. Snake has a very good chance of breaking 60%.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:23:51 PM | Message Detail
Sora did worse than a weaker Ganon did on Alucard. How does that put him above Zelda?

And I might as well do this too...

1. Solid Snake
2. Ganon
3. Zero
4. Mario
5. Samus
6. Squall
7. Bowser
8. Kirby
9. Mega Man
10. Sonic
11. Yoshi
12. Vincent
13. Tifa
14. Master Chief
15. Sora
16. Crono

The first three are the only ones I really like though.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:29:43 PM | Message Detail
1-Mega Man
2-Mario
3-Sonic
4-Solid Snake
5-Master Chief
6-Yoshi
7-Kirby
8-Tifa
9-Bowser
10-Ganon
11-Vincent
12-Samus
13-Crono
14-Zero

I'm indifferent to Squall and Sora.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:29:48 PM | Message Detail
*jumps on bandwagon*

1. Samus
2. Solid Snake
3. Bowser
*gap*
4. Mario
5. Tifa
6. Zero
*gap*
7. Ganon
8. Mega Man
9. Kirby
10. Sonic
*large gap*
11. Yoshi
12. Master Chief
13. Vincent
14. Sora
15. Crono

No Squall, because I haven't played enough of FFVIII to judge him.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/6/2005 5:30:43 PM | Message Detail
Well, then you two need to get on to playing FFVIII, pronto.
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