It's amazing how weak the likes of Jak and Ratchet truly are. Consider, if you will, the amount of TV air time they get, the frequency in which their games (very good games) are released, and the fact that they usually sell well. All this, and they still suck so much!
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Accually, the Jak, Sly, and Ratchet series are all pretty good, I really dont know why they're not well liked...
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Yeah, Jak 3 and R&C: UYA are two of my favorite platformers of all-time. I don't get what the deal is.
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I understand they all get/got good reviews, too.
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Wow Samus is murdering Ganondorf in percents right now.
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And then consider that according to the extrapolated stats, Jak is far and away the strongest of the PS platformers. The prosecution rests.
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Ah well, time for me to go to bed...would anybody still take Bowser over Ganon?
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Bowser/Ganondorf is still very much a coin toss match for me.
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I'd be tempted to take Bowser over Ganon... but I probably wouldn't.
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I'd take Bowser in a heartbeat.
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Actually, I like Jak's games on the PS, they're both fairly good. Heck, I predicted him over Ness. But for whatever reason, GameFAQs doesn't share the assessment.
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If the early goings of this match are any indication, the SFFness of this one is going to nerf vote totals. It's right around the level of Sonic/Diablo at this point.
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these updates are all over the place - 64%, 57%, 61%.. who knows where this thing will stabilize.
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the jak series does kick ass.
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whoa, Samus just started destroying Ganon a few minutes ago. she's been almost doubling him over the last 15 minutes.
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I expect Samus to be around 63% at the end of the day, which should be good to make samus-mario very interesting.
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Bowser would beat G-dorf handily.

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Mushroom Division:

Mario: 50.00%
Zero: 37.14%
Ryu Hayabusa: 27.48%
Lloyd Irving: 19.87%
Joanna Dark: 19.10%
Albert Wesker: 18.01%
Ness: 17.20%
Carl Johnson: 15.43%
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Well, in the unlikely event that Samus wins the main bracket, this makes Samus/Seph interesting.
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I think she can beat and is stronger then Mario, but we'll see.

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Yeah, outperforming seph on gannon is nothing to be taken lightly.

To whoever said samus has never sff'd someone before: Isaac. And if you're looking for actual nintendo characters, there aren't any because gannon is the weakest character she's faced that she could potentially sff aside from isaac.
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To whoever said samus has never sff'd someone before: Isaac

I'm a huge Metroid fan. Who is Isaac again? Or is this one of those Link/Mega Man SFF things where they've been on the same console at one point.

Anyways, Ganon's shown he can be SFFed, and Samus, er, isn't SFFing him by any noticable amount. That's good for Mario.
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Thats bad for Mario because no SFF means Samus is close to Sephiroth.

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i really don't think that Samus SFF'd Isaac. Isaac is from a GBA RPG (Golden Sun) while Samus is from a shooter/platformer. plus, Isaac is not in SSBM. therefore, i don't think Samus would SFF him much if at all.

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I find it funny that we try in vain to handicap via SFF, which is completely arbitrary and impossible to gauge. Of course, I'm just in denial about not picking Samus to win the contest. Man, I hate her.
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I can't even fathom how Samus would SFF Isaac. here are the games Camelot has made:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/12672.html

if you're saying that GS is a Nintendo game, then I'll ask where the overlap in fanbase is. you've got a platformer/FPS and an RPG. I've never even thought of GS as a Nintendo title.
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i really don't think that Samus SFF'd Isaac. Isaac is from a GBA RPG (Golden Sun) while Samus is from a shooter/platformer. plus, Isaac is not in SSBM. therefore, i don't think Samus would SFF him much if at all.

Normally I'd agree and just say that isaac was really weak, but felix was waaaaaaaay ahead of him in the xstats, which is hard to buy.

I'm a huge Metroid fan. Who is Isaac again? Or is this one of those Link/Mega Man SFF things where they've been on the same console at one point.

Lead character in golden sun, and a party member in the second one. Felix was from the same series (starred in the second one, barely played any role at all in the first even if he was a key character). It's different then megaman vs. link because golden sun has only been on the gba, and it's made by camelot who have made a few other games in the past for nintendo (most notably mario tennis).
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I'm not trying to say that Samus SFF'd Isaac, but Golden Sun is a Nintendo game. I don't get why people try to keep saying it's not.
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I'm not trying to say that Samus SFF'd Isaac, but Golden Sun is a Nintendo game. I don't get why people try to keep saying it's not.

I wasn't sure if it was property of camelot or not. That nmakes things easier to believe, especially when the metroid series is so prominent on gba.
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I'm saying there was SFF because it makes no sense for isaac to be considerably weaker then felix. That would be like vincent being stronger then cloud after dirge of cerberus. Well a bit different, but you get the point.
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I'd expect another RPG character to SFF Isaac before I'd expect Samus or another Nintendo character to. (Tifa, meet Vyse!) there's just no fanbase overlap there. at least with MM and Link, they're both adventure games/platformers.
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There's a fanbase overlap in it being a nintendo owned series on a nintendo system. Almost everyone who plays it is a fan of other nintendo titles.
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Samus looks like she's doing about what's expected of her. I would imagine there is some SFF at play here, but not much that's worth noting -- unless, of course, Ganon is higher than his 2003 value suggests.

Looking at the previous updates, she seems to have dropped from 62%, or around there, down to about 61% right now. Pretty much what I would expect out of her. Although she appears to be on a decline in percentage at the moment.

After seeing the final results of yesterday's match, here's how Mario would be looking. His percentage would be 38.37% against 2004 Link -- which is a boost of 3.6% based off of his 2004 value. Samus would be projected to beat him with 51.43% and Sephiroth would be projected to beat him with 54.75%. However, he would be expected to beat Crono by 51.55%.

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if that's the case, you've gotta look at the following matches from this year:

Mario/Zero
Auron/Big Boss (I think he was in MGS3? I wouldn't know)
Lloyd/Wesker
MM/Leon
Kirby/Cecil

etc etc. there's probably more that I'm not thinking of at the moment. I believe that genres are more important than companies, myself.

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..Which means mario vs. samus is going to probably be one of the best matches of the contest. I really hope it is. We almost never get to see elite characters slug it out all day and night with no definite winner until the end.
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Mario/Samus is the match of the contest. the only two that can even come close would be Crono/Mario and Cloud/Link, both of which we've seen before.
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etc etc. there's probably more that I'm not thinking of at the moment. I believe that genres are more important than companies, myself.

Do you think squall sff'd geno? Just curious.

I've gotta go now. Hopefully when I get back samus is still over 60%
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Heh. In the past 15 minutes, Samus has lost 0.05% each 5 minute update.

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hmmm....... i don't like how quickly Samus is losing percentage. Samus vs. Mario could very well be one of those matches where Samus takes the early lead, builds it up until morning, loses the lead to Mario throughout the day, and comes back in the evening to take a narrow victory.

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not significantly, no. nor do I believe that Alucard significantly SFFed Kratos. but there's obviously an overlap in fanbase there.
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She's been gathering under 60% of the vote for the past 25 minutes now. Within the past 15 minutes, it's been a steady 58% or so.

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Lloyd Irving: 19.87%
Joanna Dark: 19.10%
Albert Wesker: 18.01%

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Yikes. She lost quite a bit there really fast.

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Alright Ganon!
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What did I tell you? Ganondorf is just too strong for Samus to SFF. Feels good to be right... once out of 50 matches this contest... grrrr...

...either way, I hope she stops falling like that. The X-Sts predicted she'd get 59%, and she better not fall below that.
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Fiction. The world would implode just before it was about to be final.

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