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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 234
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:07:07 PM | Message Detail
Mario's five minute updates are ranging from the low 60s to the upper 62s, which is why he's dropping percentage so quickly.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:08:13 PM | Message Detail
Dammit, Mario is bombing!
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: assman20 | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:10:24 PM | Message Detail
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:50:03 PM | Message Detail
Samus getting 70% on Frog is every bit as impressive as what Mario is doing here. Mario and Samus look to be very close in strength, the match will be decided on which way the SFF swings.


That is the truth. This is also the truth: Samus cannot SFF Mario. It remains to be seen if Mario can SFF Samus.
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Halo 2 Rankings
Team Slayer - 25 Team Preview - 19 Team Skirmish - 13
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:10:31 PM | Message Detail
Mario is far from bombing in this match.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:14:48 PM | Message Detail
That is the truth. This is also the truth: Samus cannot SFF Mario. It remains to be seen if Mario can SFF Samus.

lalala, Nintendo fanboys like Samus more than Mario, lalala, Mario has no chance against Samus, lalala, she's going to SFF him hardcore.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:35:54 PM | Message Detail
Hardcore? Gimme a break. Even Link didn't SFF him that much. Samus will do even less, if she gets any at all.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:36:40 PM | Message Detail
Heh. Within the same timeframe, Mario dropped another .14%.

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“What is it that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” – Sephiroth
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:39:12 PM | Message Detail
Hardcore? Gimme a break. Even Link didn't SFF him that much. Samus will do even less, if she gets any at all.

Link got 62% on Mario, I think that's some SFF there.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:40:52 PM | Message Detail
Link got 62% on Mario, I think that's some SFF there.

2k2 (unadjusted):37.47%
2k3: 38.18%
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:40:57 PM | Message Detail
I doubt there will be much SSF, if any, in Mario/Samus. If Mario couldn't keep Link from SFFing him, than he shouldn't be able to do mcuh against Samus.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:41:45 PM | Message Detail
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:42:12 PM | Message Detail
Hardcore? Gimme a break. Even Link didn't SFF him that much. Samus will do even less, if she gets any at all.

I meant hardcore as in doing a couple percent better than she ordinarily would...which is a lot compared to most people's expectations.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:42:26 PM | Message Detail
I didn't say there wasn't any SFF against Link. I just said it likely wasn't all that much.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:43:42 PM | Message Detail
Anyone have the link to the Board Odds Project?
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:54:15 PM | Message Detail
Link got 62% on Mario, I think that's some SFF there.

2k2 (unadjusted):37.47%
2k3: 38.18%


Don't forget that that was Mario on roids. Some of his superpowers from Mario vs. Cloud probably carried over to his matches against Crono and Link.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:58:37 PM | Message Detail
Don't forget that that was Mario on roids.

Speaking of which... that reminds me of that Metroid farce in Game Informer, Steroid Prime, featuring a beefed up Samus. You should have seen her shoulders... ****ing hilarious!
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From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/5/2005 12:58:41 PM | Message Detail
Not a chance it carried over to Link.

After beating Cloud AND Crono in somewhat (to other people, anyway... I still think Mario > j00 in those matches, and Crono is a filthy cheater and Cloud smells >_<) suspicious circumstances, he would have been anti-voted to hell and back. Coupled with the fact that there would be some SFF in there... well, he'd have done better on a normal day, methinks.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:01:31 PM | Message Detail
Don't forget that that was Mario on roids. Some of his superpowers from Mario vs. Cloud probably carried over to his matches against Crono and Link.

If that was the case, Mario should have overperformed on Link.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:01:54 PM | Message Detail
From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 9/5/2005 3:43:42 PM | #164
Anyone have the link to the Board Odds Project?

http://www.freewebs.com/slowflake/bop.xls

And if Leonhart lacks the nutsack to say it, I'll say it: there wasn't any SFF in Link/Mario.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:04:54 PM | Message Detail
My point is that the SFF WAS there, but it doesn't look like it because Mario was stronger than normal anyway.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:14:36 PM | Message Detail
And if Leonhart lacks the nutsack to say it, I'll say it: there wasn't any SFF in Link/Mario.

Lol, X-stats. You go on believing that.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: shadow8021 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:16:48 PM | Message Detail
Lead of 19999.
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SC2K5 Score: 57/64
Today's Pick: Mario
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:17:54 PM | Message Detail
Of course I will. It's no coincidence Link and Sephiroth not only pulled similar numbers on Mario, but also on Cloud in matches two days apart.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:20:08 PM | Message Detail
I'm getting really sick of hearing "lol, XStats". I'm thinking it has been said enough to mark it for fadding. That said, there was obviosuly SFF between Mario and Link in 2k2, such a thing does not go against the stats.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:22:00 PM | Message Detail
How can it not go against the stats if there NOT being SFF doesn't go against the stats?
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: shadow8021 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:22:05 PM | Message Detail
Explain how in a low-voting atmosphere that Mario was even weaker in 2004 than in 2002?
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SC2K5 Score: 57/64
Today's Pick: Mario
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:24:37 PM | Message Detail
He wasn't necessarily weaker, but he has NEVER shown signs of being worthy of 40% on BL before this year.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:29:43 PM | Message Detail
LOL @ Mario not getting the day vote.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:32:39 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, that's pretty sad really. But that's his biggest hiccup so far this contest. And when your biggest hiccup is merely seeing an overwhelming score decrease with the day vote... he's been simply all-around overwhelming so far.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: assman20 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:33:14 PM | Message Detail
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:29:43 PM | Message Detail
LOL @ Mario not getting the day vote.



Where does he have to go but down after these massive numbers, honestly?
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Halo 2 Rankings
Team Slayer - 25 Team Preview - 19 Team Skirmish - 13
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:33:31 PM | Message Detail
Well, I'll keep this from being too wordy... Look what SMS did to Cloud... Look at how much cheating Crono had to pull off to keep level with Mario, then look at where Crono landed on Mario without cheating. I'm actually believing the only year Crono may have increased was 2k4, and I'm even doubting that.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:34:48 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, that's pretty sad really. But that's his biggest hiccup so far this contest. And when your biggest hiccup is merely seeing an overwhelming score decrease with the day vote... he's been simply all-around overwhelming so far.

If this persists, it's gonna shaft him next round.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:36:58 PM | Message Detail
If anything, I believe Mario may have underperformed against Link in 2002. In two heart-pounding, controversial matches, Mario had taken out Square's two most popular heroes in the span of one week. It's obvious he wasn't very popular with at least part of GameFAQs' core fanbase at this point. On the other side of the bracket, Link was just destroying everything, amazing all of us and leaving no controversy in his wake. I can definitely see pissed off Square fans anti-voting Mario when they had no intention to do so only weeks prior.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:38:19 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and yes, if you previously argued that Crono was the most stable character in the contest and that you consider Crono to be the base of your stats (an unecessary action) you don't need to say anything. We know who you are, be satsified with what has been said and say nothing more.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:39:35 PM | Message Detail
I think a 2002-to-2003 boost can be explained for the same reason as his 2003-to-2004 boost. 2002 was quite the miracle run for Crono, and I have no problem believing it got people to play CT more than his 2003 one.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:46:44 PM | Message Detail
Yoshi's gonna not only triple Mega Man, but shall win the tourney:

Ryu's extrapolated ranking in 2K4: 32.00% on 2K3 Link.
Bowser beat Ryu with 58.98%; Bowser = 39.01%
Bowser beat Ocelot with 65.99%; Ocelot = 26.53%
Pac-Man beat Ocelot with 51.25%; Pac-Man = 27.21%
Yoshi beat Pac-Man with 72.83%; Yoshi = 50.08% on 2K3 Link.

Meanwhile, Mega Man is expected to beat Gordon Freeman with 70.63%, and using x-stats puts Mega Man at 24.46% on 2K3 Link.

Thus, Yoshi will beat Mega Man with 75.58%.


Best.500.Post.Ever!

And yay for Mario, but :' ( for Zero.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:48:27 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and by the way, assuming CJayC didn't remove 2500 cheated votes from the first Mario/Crono, an eventual 2002-to-2003 boost still remains not even half of what the 2003-to-2004 one was (around 2500 votes to something like 6500).
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: shadow8021 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:51:56 PM | Message Detail
Zero is so strange with the day vote. He lost percentages to Ryu H. with it, he went even with Lloyd Irving, and is actually GAINING on Mario! Make up your damn mind, Zero!
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SC2K5 Score: 57/64
Today's Pick: Mario
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:54:57 PM | Message Detail
I'm getting really sick of hearing "lol, XStats". I'm thinking it has been said enough to mark it for fadding.

Ditto.

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“What is it that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” – Sephiroth
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:56:15 PM | Message Detail
DITTO used TRANSFORM!
DITTO transformed into ULTI!
DITTO used LOL X-STATS!
One-hit KO!
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:58:00 PM | Message Detail
You do know that Mario losing the day vote doesn't bode well at all for him vs. Samus.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:59:49 PM | Message Detail
Zero's only gaining because Mario was murdering him. He'll most likely stop gaining eventually.
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:00:30 PM | Message Detail
You guys who want to see Nintendo win and FF7 lose seriously need to vote Samus over Mario. Mario freaking lost to Crono last year. Hes probably not beating Sephiroth. Samus stands a better chance.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:01:26 PM | Message Detail
You guys who want to see Nintendo win and FF7 lose seriously need to vote Samus over Mario.

It doesn't matter which of those wins the main bracket, Sephiroth's still beating them.

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“What is it that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” – Sephiroth
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:01:46 PM | Message Detail
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/5/2005 1:59:49 PM | Message Detail
Zero's only gaining because Mario was murdering him. He'll most likely stop gaining eventually.


So? Zero was murdering Hayabusa. That didn't stop him from dropping the whole day.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:02:32 PM | Message Detail
You guys who want to see Nintendo win and FF7 lose seriously need to vote Samus over Mario. Mario freaking lost to Crono last year. Hes probably not beating Sephiroth. Samus stands a better chance.

With no Clinkeroth in sight, I don't see Mario losing in the finals to anyone. His fanbase just won't let it happen.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:03:36 PM | Message Detail
"It doesn't matter which of those wins the main bracket, Sephiroth's still beating them."


I'd bet you'd be pretty nervous if Samus beat Mario and Crono by a good margin and Link beat Cloud.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:04:44 PM | Message Detail
If Samus outperforms Sephiroth by a substantial margin, the winner of Samus/Mario will beat Sephiroth.

It's sad that if Samus does do extremely well tomorrow, people are just gonna slap the SFF tag on it.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:04:59 PM | Message Detail
I'd bet you'd be pretty nervous if Samus beat Mario and Crono by a good margin and Link beat Cloud.

I certainly won't lie, I would be nervous depending on the margin that Samus won by.

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“What is it that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” – Sephiroth
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/5/2005 2:06:37 PM | Message Detail
Yeah. This board hates Samus for some reason. I just think even with a good Nintendo increase Mario still isn't strong enough to beat Sephiroth, and since I want him to lose, I want Samus to beat Mario.

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Can't think of a good sig.
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