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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 233
From: Lopen
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:17:41 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief will win a few updates during the day, I don't care if it's 65-35 or what beforehand, he'll do it.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:18:16 AM | Message Detail
No, he won't.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:19:13 AM | Message Detail
You totally missed my point...
I understood it from the way you worded it, if you meant something different then there should have been some more clarity on your part.
But the final stats for this contest should indeed look very different from last year. I would imagine if most characters end up as strong as their showing, it'd make previous years look a little ridiculous.
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“What is that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” -- Sephiroth
I understood it from the way you worded it, if you meant something different then there should have been some more clarity on your part.
But the final stats for this contest should indeed look very different from last year. I would imagine if most characters end up as strong as their showing, it'd make previous years look a little ridiculous.
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“What is that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” -- Sephiroth
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:19:46 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief isn't going to win any updates.
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“What is that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” -- Sephiroth
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“What is that is most precious to you, Cloud? I’ll enjoy stripping that from you!” -- Sephiroth
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:22:10 AM | Message Detail
Well, I'm off to bed. I'll be interested to see what Mario does with
the day vote. He appears to be dropping for the time being and should
continue to do so for a little while.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Devil Division Final: (5)Vincent Valentine
From: Janus5000
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:22:33 AM | Message Detail
At first I thought 'I wouldn't be too surprised if MC came close to winning a few updates.'
Then I remembered Crono holding Mario to 3.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
Then I remembered Crono holding Mario to 3.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: RevolverAk47
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:23:37 AM | Message Detail
this match only further proves that the nintendo fanboys have taken over, and now no one has a chance to win but samus or mario.
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From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:23:38 AM | Message Detail
That was a travesty. Mario gets revenge this year, 55-45 at least. = P
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Lopen
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:24:13 AM | Message Detail
Don't underestimate the power of his best time. He got a roughly 15%
swing with some updates from what he was getting in the night.
I'll consider it a moral victory if he wins any by double digit votes.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
I'll consider it a moral victory if he wins any by double digit votes.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono
From: FastFalcon05
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:29:40 AM | Message Detail
Amen, Lopen, amen.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb
From: RevolverAk47
| Posted: 9/5/2005 1:46:14 AM | Message Detail
I think this clearly proves that megaman HAS weakened, if mario can do this to someone who was close to megamans str.
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From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 9/5/2005 2:51:19 AM | Message Detail
It proves that Mario is awesome and will win everything, ever.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 9/5/2005 3:00:38 AM | Message Detail
This is EASILY the best character battle, ever.
http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?deathmatches/fight_chrono_vs_ness.htm
<3<3<3
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?deathmatches/fight_chrono_vs_ness.htm
<3<3<3
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 9/5/2005 3:31:25 AM | Message Detail
Mario 64% 7788
Zero 36% 4381
TOTAL VOTES 12169
Mario 64 ^_^
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
Zero 36% 4381
TOTAL VOTES 12169
Mario 64 ^_^
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: Safer Sephiroth 777
| Posted: 9/5/2005 4:13:51 AM | Message Detail
Mario is Mario.Enough said.
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From: cyko
| Posted: 9/5/2005 4:39:20 AM | Message Detail
wow. go Mario!! but,too bad for Zero. Zero is also one of my favorites and i really wanted him to lose respectably..... =(
and XDXDXDXDXD @ the cosplay match pics. it's too bad that we don't really get those pics because MC might actually be able to beat Crono with that pic.
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and XDXDXDXDXD @ the cosplay match pics. it's too bad that we don't really get those pics because MC might actually be able to beat Crono with that pic.
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From: jonthomson
| Posted: 9/5/2005 4:51:41 AM | Message Detail
Been away for the weekend. Needless to say that my final pick is
suddenly looking less than clever, unless Zero did that rSFF thing.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Heroic Viktor
| Posted: 9/5/2005 5:57:27 AM | Message Detail
So I wake up to Mario pasting Zero with over 62%, and seeing a
Tifa/Sonic match picture that made me go 'wow, moderately attractive
cos-players who aren't getting paid to model them?' I mean, doesn't
hold a candle to my friend who dressed up as Rikku two years ago for
Halloween, but it is a start.
And I fully expect Samus to at least double Ganon tomorrow, as the villainous gentleman is an absolute pig when fanbasing overlap...
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SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
And I fully expect Samus to at least double Ganon tomorrow, as the villainous gentleman is an absolute pig when fanbasing overlap...
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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: I_Dont_Love_You
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:12:09 AM | Message Detail
I mean, doesn't hold a candle to my friend who dressed up as Rikku two years ago for Halloween, but it is a start.
You are obligated to post pics.
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George Romero > You.
You are obligated to post pics.
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George Romero > You.
From: Heroic Viktor
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:13:57 AM | Message Detail
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/5/2005 8:12:09 AM | Message Detail
You are obligated to post pics.
And if they existed, I would <_<
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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 61/68 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
You are obligated to post pics.
And if they existed, I would <_<
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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 61/68 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: I_Dont_Love_You
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:26:49 AM | Message Detail
Tragic. If you ever do get pics, I'll be here, laughing at how bad Mario's owning Zero.
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George Romero > You.
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George Romero > You.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:29:18 AM | Message Detail
I can't wait to see stat fans try to somehow prove that Mario or Nintendo hasn't increased after today's match.
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: ps2rulezzz
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:32:08 AM | Message Detail
It is a bit of an unfair pic with the peaches castle in the background.
But mario is definately doing well. He deserves to win a contest, as he
is the gaming icon.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy
From: I_Dont_Love_You
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:35:10 AM | Message Detail
It is a bit of an unfair pic with the peaches castle in the
background. But mario is definately doing well. He deserves to win a
contest, as he is the gaming icon.
Does Pac-Man also deserve to win the contest despite getting less than 30% on Yoshi?
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George Romero > You.
Does Pac-Man also deserve to win the contest despite getting less than 30% on Yoshi?
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George Romero > You.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:35:37 AM | Message Detail
From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/5/2005 9:32:08 AM | Message Detail | #473
It is a bit of an unfair pic with the peaches castle in the background.
Pics don't matter that much, save for CT sprites overperforming. And why the hell is that the case, anyway?
But yeah, even if you want to say it's an unfair pic, Mario is the higher seed. Ceej has always done it that way. And on that note, where are the actual round 3 pics? I can't find them.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
It is a bit of an unfair pic with the peaches castle in the background.
Pics don't matter that much, save for CT sprites overperforming. And why the hell is that the case, anyway?
But yeah, even if you want to say it's an unfair pic, Mario is the higher seed. Ceej has always done it that way. And on that note, where are the actual round 3 pics? I can't find them.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Haste2
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:36:12 AM | Message Detail
Heh, now Mario has 64.64%...
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:43:58 AM | Message Detail
Does Super Luigi talk about anything but Solid Snake?
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Starion
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:44:56 AM | Message Detail
Here's the thing though Ulti. The Xstats has been off more often than
not in this year's contest. However when people strongly suggest Mario
> Samus or Sonic > Megaman, they are still relying on the xstats
to bolster their arguments. Isn't it possible that 2005 is a whole new
ballgame and that the character's strengths are still up in the air?
From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:45:54 AM | Message Detail
Well typically Zero's pictures are amazing.
I'm not a Zero fan at all, but I can't deny that he looks awesome. In
this case, Mario looks far more badass than usual, and Zero looks like
total crap, almost as bad as lettuce Kefka.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:46:01 AM | Message Detail
However when people strongly suggest Mario > Samus or Sonic >
Megaman, they are still relying on the xstats to bolster their
arguments.
...what? The stats project Samus to beat Mario with like 55% of the vote, and they also project Mega Man to beat Sonic.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
...what? The stats project Samus to beat Mario with like 55% of the vote, and they also project Mega Man to beat Sonic.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:46:28 AM | Message Detail
Obviously I'm not denying a Nintendo increase here though. There's no
way even with a pic that Mario breaks 60%. This is just...
unprecedented, in my eyes.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:46:35 AM | Message Detail
Zero's pic this round looks amazing. If you think his cartoon pics look
better than this, I'm guessing you haven't played any MMX games.
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:48:02 AM | Message Detail
By the way, the most impressive thing about this match pic is Zero's
shadow. Mario's is easy enough to do, but I don't recall Zero having an
MMX8 shadow that just so happens to fall in line with the necessary
shadow for Mario 64. Good job by Ceej on that one.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Starion
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:48:14 AM | Message Detail
I meant using the xstats combined with the current results of the
contest. I've seen several people trying to calculate what character
would get in a match based on that information.
From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:48:24 AM | Message Detail
Pancaek Beast (9:47:42 AM): Do you prefer Zero's pic today or his artwork pics
sephsblade (9:48:06 AM): Artwork pics
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From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:49:10 AM | Message Detail
And I haven't played later MMX games, but Zero's sprite >>> that.
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From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:51:09 AM | Message Detail
Also, WTF is with Heroic Mario's sig?
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From: sephsblade
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:53:52 AM | Message Detail
Zero's pic this round looks amazing. If you think his cartoon pics
look better than this, I'm guessing you haven't played any MMX games.
I...
What...
The...
HELL...
Things that are better then that pic:
His artwork
His SNES sprites
His PSX Sprites
His X8 Model, instead of the X7 model they used.
That picture Shine keeps on linking to.
That picture of Zero kissing X.
A picture of the number 0.
Anything else.
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I...
What...
The...
HELL...
Things that are better then that pic:
His artwork
His SNES sprites
His PSX Sprites
His X8 Model, instead of the X7 model they used.
That picture Shine keeps on linking to.
That picture of Zero kissing X.
A picture of the number 0.
Anything else.
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"The guy who said "You are quite possibly the worst pirate I've ever seen" to Jack Sparrow has obviously never played SoA."- Steinershocker
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:54:47 AM | Message Detail
:(
But I like that pic.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
But I like that pic.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: sephsblade
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:56:09 AM | Message Detail
Nobody else does.
>_>
<_<
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>_>
<_<
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From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 6:56:24 AM | Message Detail
Slow, have you looked into doing another PS2-era-or-later bracket?
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From: shadow8021
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:00:26 AM | Message Detail
Lower 20XX Division:
Yoshi: 50.00%
Pac-Man: 27.17%
Revolver Ocelot: 26.49%
Lahrl: 26.34%
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SC2K5 Score: 57/64
Today's Pick: Mario
Yoshi: 50.00%
Pac-Man: 27.17%
Revolver Ocelot: 26.49%
Lahrl: 26.34%
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SC2K5 Score: 57/64
Today's Pick: Mario
From: KoolAidMan17
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:01:32 AM | Message Detail
<_<
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Summer Contest 2K5 Score: 56/64
Today: Mario
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Summer Contest 2K5 Score: 56/64
Today: Mario
From: therealmnm
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:05:57 AM | Message Detail
I like Zero artwork better...
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From: Haste2
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:14:19 AM | Message Detail
I hate Zero's pic as well. He's always looked amazing...until today.
Oh, and Yoshi's gonna beat Mega Man with 76% next round...yes, yes, of course. I will make a very real incredibly serious post about why Yoshi will triple Mega Man and win the 64-character portion of the tournament.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
Oh, and Yoshi's gonna beat Mega Man with 76% next round...yes, yes, of course. I will make a very real incredibly serious post about why Yoshi will triple Mega Man and win the 64-character portion of the tournament.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:14:45 AM | Message Detail
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From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:25:38 AM | Message Detail
Okay... here's a few characters who could work in a 32-person tourney for 128-or-later.
Tidus
Auron
Rikku
Yuna
Shadow
Dante
(Insert Guilty Gear Character)
(Insert 2 Soul Calibur Characters)
The Boss
Raiden
Solidus Snake
Sora
Riku
Vergil
Vyse
Ramirez
Lloyd
Kratos (God of War)
James Sunderland (Silent Hill)
Laharl
Tommy Vercetti
Carl Johnson
Master Chief
Arbiter
HK-47
Krauser
Master Hand >____>
Ryo Hazuki
Agent 47
There's thirty... I could easily invent a few more.
Thoughts?
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Tidus
Auron
Rikku
Yuna
Shadow
Dante
(Insert Guilty Gear Character)
(Insert 2 Soul Calibur Characters)
The Boss
Raiden
Solidus Snake
Sora
Riku
Vergil
Vyse
Ramirez
Lloyd
Kratos (God of War)
James Sunderland (Silent Hill)
Laharl
Tommy Vercetti
Carl Johnson
Master Chief
Arbiter
HK-47
Krauser
Master Hand >____>
Ryo Hazuki
Agent 47
There's thirty... I could easily invent a few more.
Thoughts?
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From: The_Link_Star
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:26:53 AM | Message Detail
last post *cross fingers*
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From: Shadowdude II
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:27:09 AM | Message Detail
Crono over Sephiroth: BOOK IT.
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From: Haste2
| Posted: 9/5/2005 7:27:13 AM | Message Detail
Yoshi's gonna not only triple Mega Man, but shall win the tourney:
Ryu's extrapolated ranking in 2K4: 32.00% on 2K3 Link.
Bowser beat Ryu with 58.98%; Bowser = 39.01%
Bowser beat Ocelot with 65.99%; Ocelot = 26.53%
Pac-Man beat Ocelot with 51.25%; Pac-Man = 27.21%
Yoshi beat Pac-Man with 72.83%; Yoshi = 50.08% on 2K3 Link.
Meanwhile, Mega Man is expected to beat Gordon Freeman with 70.63%, and using x-stats puts Mega Man at 24.46% on 2K3 Link.
Thus, Yoshi will beat Mega Man with 75.58%.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
Ryu's extrapolated ranking in 2K4: 32.00% on 2K3 Link.
Bowser beat Ryu with 58.98%; Bowser = 39.01%
Bowser beat Ocelot with 65.99%; Ocelot = 26.53%
Pac-Man beat Ocelot with 51.25%; Pac-Man = 27.21%
Yoshi beat Pac-Man with 72.83%; Yoshi = 50.08% on 2K3 Link.
Meanwhile, Mega Man is expected to beat Gordon Freeman with 70.63%, and using x-stats puts Mega Man at 24.46% on 2K3 Link.
Thus, Yoshi will beat Mega Man with 75.58%.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."