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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 232
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:00:37 PM | Message Detail
MC could work. Put his old Halo model next to his new Halo 2 model. There's a significant difference between them.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Starion | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:09:38 PM | Message Detail
Anyone know what the final vote total is going to be for this match? It seems like it will be the lowest of this contest.
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:12:26 PM | Message Detail
Am I the only one anxiously awaiting the picture theme for the next round? Please be old-school sprites!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:13:25 PM | Message Detail
At 18:10:

Yoshi vs. Pac-Man - 71403
Lloyd Irving vs. Albert Wesker - 72272
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:13:53 PM | Message Detail
It wouldn't be the same if we abandoned the sprites. I just want to see this next one because Mario and Zero have awesome sprites.

What are the odds we see a Mega Man Zero sprite?
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:14:21 PM | Message Detail
"I'm tingling at the prospect of Snake > Samus.

Snake ftw.
"


Samus would murder Snake. If shes still higher then Mario and effected by the Nintendo boost, she would even have a good chance to beat Sephiroth.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:14:34 PM | Message Detail
0% because he's looks too different.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:16:56 PM | Message Detail
Well, it's still Zero. Kingdom Hearts models look a lot different (especially Squall), but we've seen them used.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:17:12 PM | Message Detail
What are the odds we see a Mega Man Zero sprite?

I'd love to see a MMZ sprite, just once I'd like to see the MMZ series acknowledged in these contests.
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:17:56 PM | Message Detail
Bat Cloud>Young Link

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:19:00 PM | Message Detail
FF I know you like both characters, who do you like more?

I like Yoshi more than Pacman, Yoshi's been my character as early as I guess MK64. I actually used Luigi in SMK.

What does Link have to gain from the DS?

Yeah, I didn't mean to throw him in, I wasn't thinking straight.

Honestly, people who are saying this is ludicrous...Please explain to me why you now think Yoshi would beat Bowser, and why you think Laharl would give Pac-Man and Ocelot all they could handle.

I don't think Yoshi would beat Bowser, and I'm surprised no one's really mentioned that god awful picture Ocelot had. That picture was a disgrace, and ocelot was never a behemoth anyway. I'm not a huge fan of picture factor, but ocelot isn't someone like Solid Snake that you'll absolutely recognize from name alone. And what's to say that the Bowser performance wasn't the fluke, and the pacman performance the normal one?

But when he goes up against someone just as well known as he is, and someone who is liked MORE than him, like Luigi or Yoshi, he collapses. I don't see anything wrong with that happening.

That sounds awfully close to just being a fairly weak character though. I mean you vote for them if you don't like the other character, and if you do like the other character, you vote for them instead. Isn't that how basically any match works?

And also back to the Bowser problem with Yoshi doing this well. It's also been suggested a few times that higher vote totals would boost certain characters more than others. Perhaps it was better for Ocelot when there were lower vote totals because not as many casuals were voting for Bowser.

However, after I wrote my little explanations, I read through the pacman sff reasons again, and they seem pretty reasonable, but I wouldn't expect it to count for much.

And anyone who talks about SM64DS...EVERY SINGLE SUPER MARIO ADVANCE GAME OUTSOLD IT. Hell, a couple of them more than doubled it. SM64DS was not a huge deal.

But it was a new system...and a very popular remake of a very popular game. That does count for something. I think the DS being the instigator behind these boosts is a valid thing, because think about it, with the Ds, more people are coming to Nintendo faqs. It might not be all the boost, but it's an idea.

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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:19:19 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, but we still have yet to see a Mega Man X pic... I doubt we see a Mega Man Zero pic. If we do, we BETTER see an X pic against Yoshi... Fully charged upgraded X buster firing, preferably.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:21:24 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Yoshi would beat Bowser, and I'm surprised no one's really mentioned that god awful picture Ocelot had.

Maybe no one mentions it because he had the exact same one against Bowser.

And if we didn't see a Mega Man X picture when he faced Zero, I doubt we'll ever see one.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: MnMZero | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:29:46 PM | Message Detail
Heh, my first ever alt hits level 15 just in time for tomorrow's match. Sweet!
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"Your lives that I spit on are now but a caricature of a cartoon drawn by a kid who is stupid!"
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:32:17 PM | Message Detail
Am I the only one anxiously awaiting the picture theme for the next round? Please be old-school sprites!

Indeed. Even though Bowser's old school sprite is pretty terrible itself, it's best to get Solid **** out of the way now.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:33:07 PM | Message Detail
Indeed. Even though Bowser's old school sprite is pretty terrible itself, it's best to get Solid **** out of the way now.

Yeah, I agree. Snake's gonna need every advantage to take down Bowser.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:33:57 PM | Message Detail
People seem to be so intent on believing that Snake will get that sprite no matter what as if he has nothing else...We've seen CJayC mixing up his picture choices this year, so I would be really surprised if he got that particular sprite.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:34:21 PM | Message Detail
I hope you're right Leonhart.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: TheCubeStud | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:35:09 PM | Message Detail
Unless Bowser gets an atrocious picture (I mean like UPN primetime kind of atrocious) his victory over Snake is locked
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Bowser will be victorious over Solid Snake, and once it happens, I get to laugh at all of you as I catapault up the standings! BANK ON IT
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:35:11 PM | Message Detail
It really won't matter against Sora anyway. After what we've seen Magus and Frog do, I'm surprised everyone still wants to put the blame on Snake.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:36:53 PM | Message Detail
So wait, what is everyone's rationalize for Frog getting 47%+ on Snake if not the Solid **** picture?

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:38:20 PM | Message Detail
After seeing what Magus did with a sprite, I'd be more inclined to say it was more Frog than Snake. Sora will not be overrated at all even if Snake gets that sprite. You can take that to the bank.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:39:09 PM | Message Detail
The other common theory is that CT characters do better with sprites. It explains Magus' overperformance on Link, and Frog's on Solid Snake. It also didn't hurt that they were up against Bible Link and Solid ****, of course.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:40:17 PM | Message Detail
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 8:38:20 PM | Message Detail

You can take that to the bank.


Who do you think you are... Mason Storm?

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:40:43 PM | Message Detail
No, Edge of course.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:41:01 PM | Message Detail
TheCubeStud, it's highly doubtful that a picture will make the difference in Bowser/Snake, especially since it won't even likely be the sprite round. And you won't catapult up the standings, either--certainly not over most of Board 8. Bowser over Snake is a *very* trendy upset pick here.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:41:30 PM | Message Detail
No, I'm just trying to use an alternative to "Book it."
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:41:36 PM | Message Detail
I still don't understand why CT characters would do so much better with sprites. It's not like their artwork sucks.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:43:19 PM | Message Detail
Bold prediction #2: Yoshi has more bracket support going into the third round than Mega Man does.

Take that to the bank and smoke it!
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:43:31 PM | Message Detail
Edge, eh? Haven't watched wrestling in a while, so all the catch phrases are lost on me unless Jim Duggan, Macho Man or Hulk Hogan are prominently involved.

And remember folks, Solid **** + Sora Sprite = <10% Prediction Percentage

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:44:15 PM | Message Detail
...Why would less than 10% have Snake beating Sora?
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:44:21 PM | Message Detail
Well, that, and the fact that both of them were on the momentum of 'miracle runs', that seem to have lost their luster in subsequent years.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: transience | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:44:25 PM | Message Detail
your bold predictions are sucking today. Yoshi with.. 65%.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:45:33 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, you'll see. I had Mega Man's support pegged yesterday and Tifa's the day before.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:45:34 PM | Message Detail
Yoshi will have an unusually low prediction percentage thanks to those that overestimate Ocelot. Low sixties.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:46:41 PM | Message Detail
Meh, Ocelot still only had 61% of the brackets despite his Spring Contest success.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:47:43 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, but it's possible that a good portion of those carried him into round two.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:47:53 PM | Message Detail
*three
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:48:02 PM | Message Detail
That's some success Ocelot had this spring. Pyrrhic success, I'd call it.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: transience | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:48:13 PM | Message Detail
I was 1% off on Tifa and 4% off on Mega Man. good, but not great.

I think the real question is: will Yoshi/Megaman destroy brackets? if so, I will laugh.
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http://picturesofwalls.com
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:48:23 PM | Message Detail
It's possible, but if they remembered that Bowser creamed Ocelot, I think they'll take Yoshi over him.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:50:30 PM | Message Detail
Heh, casuals remember the rounds, not the victory margins. Remember how many people were calling for Diablo over Sonic here? To say nothing of the mass overestimation of Kefka... -_-
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:50:46 PM | Message Detail
I think Yoshi will take about 67% of the brackets.
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Return of SF1: YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE!
makeyourchance: Yes I do! It's Samsonite.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:51:10 PM | Message Detail
I think Diablo's overestimation came from the fact that he beat the "mighty" Kefka than anything else.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:52:34 PM | Message Detail
Kefka is perpetually overrated, and will be so long as we keep nominating him into these things <_<

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:57:02 PM | Message Detail
That's why we must keep getting him in! That gives the board a freebie the others won't have!

Okay, cheap advertising for my favorite character. Moving on...
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:59:26 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, well then why do I keep picking him???

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 57/64 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: meche313 | Posted: 9/4/2005 6:59:54 PM | Message Detail
So Yoshi/Tifa, what's your pick?
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/4/2005 7:00:11 PM | Message Detail
False pre-conceptions of how strong we think he SHOULD be?
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/4/2005 7:00:36 PM | Message Detail
Because you haven't received the memo he's pathetically weak yet?
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
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