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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 231
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:37:15 AM | Message Detail
I just read it again, nvm >_> nah, mega will get I think 46-48 on sonic. I think tifa like 44-46
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From: Smurf87 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:39:40 AM | Message Detail
This match makes Snake look pretty bad too.... He only scored 6% higher then Leon (who struggled aganist Gordon)

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:40:23 AM | Message Detail
I bet Sora would get like 43% on Mega Man. >_>
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:41:54 AM | Message Detail
At this point all I can do is remember and laugh at how much 2k3 seems to have thrown the noble-nine for a loop. Sephy inconsisently drops and rises depending on the match, Mega drops like a rock for seemingly no reason, Samus rises like she got shot out of a cannon, snake drops for almost no reason (which then seems to make it look like sehpy overperformed against cloud making that whole division look better), but then we have crono doing very well and finally beating mario, all the while sonic quietly rises up after his horrible 2k3 to laugh at all of us who thought he was at risk of losing to magus or soem other character rated right under him at that point.
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:44:32 AM | Message Detail
After this contest is over it might be a good idea to redo all the rankings.

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From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:47:04 AM | Message Detail
leon beat gordon by the same amount sam fisher did last year. Sam got 36% on DK..
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:49:27 AM | Message Detail
If gordo didn't increase then megaman looks like a low midcarder and concker looks liek one of the weakest characters ever to grace the contest. Now thats obviously not true, but gordo would have had to increase by 10% to make megaman look like he stayed constant?
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From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:51:31 AM | Message Detail
Yoshi over Megaman would kick so much ass.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:51:54 AM | Message Detail
leon beat gordon by the same amount sam fisher did last year. Sam got 36% on DK..

I don't have quick-n-easy access to past results right now so forgive me if I miss on rounding something here, but Fisher got about 55% while Leon got about 59%. Gordon also didn't have HL2 or the Half-Life emblem on him (though I think that's minimal here) against Fisher.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:52:32 AM | Message Detail
Has zero given us any reason to think hes not? He's performed up to expectations against both of his oponents.

Exactly, he hasn't gained anything.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:52:55 AM | Message Detail
Gotta go to work now...Leon Kennedy or Magus, who wins?
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From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:53:33 AM | Message Detail
This doens't make any sense. At all. Unless Megaman continues to tear Leon's percentage to shreds, this is weird.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:53:37 AM | Message Detail
So then why should we think hes gotten weaker? I never said he was strogner, i said he was AS strong as his 2k4 value.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:54:59 AM | Message Detail
I never really said he got weaker.
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:56:08 AM | Message Detail
I was under the impression you said you thought he was weaker... thats why u asked me why i thought he had stayed constant..
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From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:56:55 AM | Message Detail
The only problem with all our 'Megaman is weaker' speculation is that he overpefromed against Conker, and after Conker had Live and Reloaded too.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:58:17 AM | Message Detail
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:58:49 AM | Message Detail
I was actually in favor of him being constant, I thought you said he gained, eh.
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:59:17 AM | Message Detail
we've had characters drop for seemingly no reason before, look at KOS-MOS this year, Tidus last year, they've had no real reason to drop but they did anyway.
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From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/3/2005 8:59:20 AM | Message Detail
Right, and sam got chaos theory on multiplatforms, but look what happened to him.
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From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:00:05 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief didn't increase from Halo 2.

KOS-MOS seemingly didn't increase from Xenosaga 2.

Is it really that hard to imagine Conker: Live & Reloaded has little effect on Conker?
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:01:25 AM | Message Detail
No, it's not, but Mega Man still did better even if Conker didn't gain at all, just to note.
From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:04:42 AM | Message Detail
...Could Zero end up stronger then Megaman if Gordon didn't increase?
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:10:21 AM | Message Detail
Yes, Zero would....>___>
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:10:46 AM | Message Detail
If gordon didn't increase than megaman looks like he'd lose to half the field (I think he'd be around 23% on link).
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:14:07 AM | Message Detail
Yeah. Assuming he gets to about 65%, he'd be almost 25. Losing to people like Knuckles, Dante... possibly even Magus.

Sounds good to me... >_<
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:16:21 AM | Message Detail
It might be a combination of Gordon increasing and Mega Man dropping, but Mega Man has definitely dropped some. His 2004 match with Link might actually be accurate after this. I knew something was up with that match and it wasn't SFF. I don't see how anyone could draw the conclusion that a Nintendo character could SFF a Capcom one.

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:16:26 AM | Message Detail
Magus performed better against Link than Mega Man, even after taking into account the differences between the two Links.

>_>
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:17:49 AM | Message Detail
I doubt hes THAT weak, but it wouldn't surprise me if he dropped since last year, or if he 's actually as weak as his unadjusted value suggested.
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:17:53 AM | Message Detail
Did the first TP trailer come out before or after Links match with Mega Man?

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From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:18:39 AM | Message Detail
Zero got 44% on megaman with the SFF votes most likely against him. He got 47% on sonic, Id put zero maybe even above snake, or the same lvl.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:23:26 AM | Message Detail
Zero was barely SFF'd, he's doing around his expected value. (unadjusted one, that is)
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:24:54 AM | Message Detail
Never said he was same lvl as mega, but that would still put him above snake seeing as snake got 42%.
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From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:27:19 AM | Message Detail
I think this is one of those matches that can't be properly explained until later.

*sits back, watches the confusion, and eats some popcorn*

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:27:59 AM | Message Detail
I personally think Snake would beat Zero this year, but last year may be different.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:46:01 AM | Message Detail
XD! Leon > Tidus
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy
From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:50:00 AM | Message Detail
Leon goes from flopping against Gordon to not even being doubled by Mega Man. Wow.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:54:09 AM | Message Detail
Btw, where do Leon and Gordon rank now if Mega Man keeps this current percentage?
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/3/2005 9:54:42 AM | Message Detail
Ha, and everyone said Leon was a flop! Go SC2K5 Nomination Tourney representative!

The only problem with all our 'Megaman is weaker' speculation is that he overpefromed against Conker

He was actually in between the two values. He definitely did not overperform. Either way, this isn't the performance Mega Man needed to look good for the final four, especially after Sonic destroyed Diablo.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:02:59 AM | Message Detail
Leon was in RE 2 & 4, but which ones were Jill from?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:05:48 AM | Message Detail
Jill was with Chris in the original RE, and was the star of RE3: Nemesis.

As for this performance...either Gordon Freeman got a boost from HL2 (which his bracket support would seem to imply), or he'd break 40% on Link if given the chance--because I just CAN'T see Mega Man falling this much. I mean, 2k5 Snake would look primed to beat him at this point if Gordon Freeman stays constant. Not that I'd mind, but I don't buy it.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:07:55 AM | Message Detail
He meant overperformed as in overperformed for a weaker Megaman.

Jill is in 1 and 3.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:10:15 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman is certainly not constant. No matter what, Megaman is no midcarder.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:13:11 AM | Message Detail
Nah, it's pretty obvious that Gordon isn't a bottom feeder anymore (or he just gets 40% no matter what), but you can't say this is an encouraging performance by the Blue Bomber.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:14:39 AM | Message Detail
Or it could be an overperformance and a boost from Gordon Freeman cause the half-life symbol was more recognizable, similar to CATS face-pic situation, like someone mentioned earlier..
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:32:59 AM | Message Detail
At Leon's current percentage, he stands at 27.30% on Link, between Tidus and Dante. Gordon Freeman stands at 22.64%, almost Kefka's equal. Man, imagine the board reaction if Kefka was the one to end GFNW...

On unadjusted Mega Man, Leon stands at 24.57%, between Tails and KOS-MOS. Gordon Freeman stands at 20.38%, relatively equal to HK-47.
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From: Garsha | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:34:11 AM | Message Detail
Something tells me that Leon's great performance has nothing to do with his actual strength, but Mega Man's weakness. I just hope it won't go that way.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:41:32 AM | Message Detail
Firstly, I can actually see Gordon Freeman beating Vyse right now, and it scares me. GFNW, hold strong...

But I can't see him on Kefka's level right now, which means perhaps Mega Man should have been unadjusted. That of course leaves Conker, but after seeing Vyse, KOS-MOS, and others, can we really assume that Conker hasn't fallen even WITH a new game?

Of course, that suggests once again that the division needed to be unadjusted. Mega Man, Tidus, Vercetti, and it could even explain away Frog's fourpack without having to attribute ALL of that overperformance to the picture. That leaves, as the last anomaly...Snake. o.O
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:42:53 AM | Message Detail
Snake's doing fine for himself. He's had a new game out which has helped him out tremendously.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/3/2005 10:43:30 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles argues against the unadjusted as well, but after seeing Sonic perform like Crono, I wouldn't be surprised if he increased, too. Actually, he probably had to increase in such a proportion that he would maintain a 60/40 loss to Snake.
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