maybe... gears didn't come out in Europe though. then again, nor did saga and kos-mos does just fine.
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Well, I think Falcon would be at least Ness level, but Falcon is more well-liked by the SSBM fanbase.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 46/58 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Luigi

Capt. Falcon I can see at Ness levels, if not higher. And Cid Highwind? Fodder?!
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

I'm sorry, but I can no longer function normally after Lopen just tried to reprogram me with that Toad > Peach lie.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=634

I know that this Poll says Yoshi is the strongest Mario Bros. character, but still... Peach barely beating WaLuigi does not speak well for her popularity. Peach would be fodder. Fodder able to dispatch fodder that is unknown, but against any character with a fanbase, she'd be annihilated.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono

Numbers 7 and 9 would be fodder.

Say what? Cid by no means would be fodder.

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Well, since all of you are talking about nominations for Sub-Zero, I have to say that I'd nominate him. I think I nominated him for 2k4 but forgot this year. It's true that he has the pic problem, though, but I think there's a way we can attempt to solve it: nominate Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat 2. If we put that as the game title, he might get all ninja pics. Note that if those terrible MK movies are canon at all, the Sub-Zero with the scar and no mask is actually the original's brother...so, if somehow Ceej could decipher that the Sub-Zero variants are different, maybe we could increase the odds of the ninja picture.

Probably wouldn't work, but it's worth a shot. Anyway, a few other people who I could probably end up nominating, even if they've got no chance to do anything:

Falco Lombardi - Could be more popular than Fox in the fanbase and has the SSBM factor. Plus, he's playable in Star Fox Assault, IIRC.

Lance Vance - Yeah, I know Tommy Vercetti is sliding closer and closer to fodder, and I know Lance has to deal with the black factor...but I think he should get in. It would be interesting to find out if a GTA NPC could be better than CJ.

Any member of the Leone mob from GTA 3 - Just because I think they're cool. Oh, and Toni Cipriani will be playable for Liberty City Stories, so he's the most likely nomination.

Vectorman - Will win pic factor most times, had current re-release. At the very least, let's get some cool fodder.

Mewtwo - He hasn't made one of these yet, right? I think it's high time that we see whether Pikachu got by on recognizability alone. As a bonus, Mewtwo has to be better liked in the fanbase, among casuals, and also has the SSBM factor.

Just what I think.

Can someone link me to that FFVII character poll?
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Summer 2005 Contest - 46/58 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Luigi

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=845
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono

Heh, Cid > Aeris in that poll. He definitely deserves a shot.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 46/58 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Luigi

Just to go along with that GameFAQs poll, here's the finalized results of FFOnline's "Favorite Final Fantasy VII Character" poll.

Who is your favorite character from Final Fantasy VII?

Cloud 31.2%
Sephiroth 25.2%
Vincent 10.9%
Tifa 8.5%
Aeris 7.3%
Red XIII 5.9%
Cid 4.3%
Yuffie 3.4%
Barret 1.9%
Cait Sith 1.3%

Total Votes: 82577

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at this rate, we're going to have 32 ff7 characters vs. 32 ssbm characters.
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I think Red would most likely do better than Cid.

at this rate, we're going to have 32 ff7 characters vs. 32 ssbm characters.

Go FFVII! =p

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Well, Cid was in KH...
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Summer 2005 Contest - 46/58 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Luigi

I also think Red XIII would do better than Cid. Unless someone else beats me to it, I plan to have a little rally to attempt at getting him in, or Aerith depending.

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I guess I could squeeze in some room for Red XIII. It all depends on how Leon does tomorrow.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 46/58 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Luigi

We should really rally for Sub-Zero and Cid Highwind.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 46/58 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Luigi

The only FF7 characters I'd ever nominate would be Barret (it'd amuse me) and/or Yuffie (best character from FF7, fools!). Yes, I know they have the least potential for contest strength, I don't care.

Too many FF7 characters in these things anyway.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono

There's not enough FFVII characters, actually.




We need Reno. Reno would be badass. <3

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Peach deserves to be in, especially next year, after she's had her own game. I mean, she's the equivalent of Zelda really, and I think she does more for her series than Zelda does in hers. Plus, Peach probably has more exposure than Zelda in her games, and she certainly has more exposure than Wario ever did. Seriously, how did wario get in this contest?

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Cloud 31.2%
Sephiroth 25.2%
Vincent 10.9%
Tifa 8.5%
Aeris 7.3%
Red XIII 5.9%
Cid 4.3%
Yuffie 3.4%
Barret 1.9%
Cait Sith 1.3%

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Failure at life.
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there is no way Peach is on Zelda's level. not even close.
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Wario made it in, once, a single appearance doesn't count for much in my book (especially if he chokes in his first match).
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Lopen and partystar are sharing the same tastes.

poor Lopen. and poor partystar.
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Zelda does more in OOT than Peach has done in any game ever.(Besides SMB2 I guess)

Rikku >> Tifa!! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=634

I know that this Poll says Yoshi is the strongest Mario Bros. character, but still... Peach barely beating WaLuigi does not speak well for her popularity. Peach would be fodder. Fodder able to dispatch fodder that is unknown, but against any character with a fanbase, she'd be annihilated.

A) Peach is listed as Princess in that poll.

B) M. Bison also did *horrible* in the favorite character polls, but her performed fairly well in the contest.

I also think that a fair amount of Soul Calibur characters could do well in this contest, especially with SCIII coming out soon. I know games don't equal characters, but all four Street Fighter characters have performed respectably and Soul Calibur did way better than Street Fighter in Sp2004, plus it's more recent.
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B) M. Bison also did *horrible* in the favorite character polls, but her performed fairly well in the contest.

O RLY?!
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*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

That should be "he," obviously.
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"I don't like it when people I don't like get what they want."--Janelle

To be fair, Bison was tied with about half of the cast, Peach was with WaLuigi and the others dominated them both.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono

Hmmkay. Tifa taking almost 20 hours to build a 5000-vote lead on Luigi is my shocker of the round, even moreso than the Dream division slaughters. I'm not doing any full-fledged write-up this time (else I'd be 75% done with it right now), but I'll be decerning awards nonetheless, and there's a lot of choices to pick from.

Also, in the next few days I'll be adding a casuals vs. BOP sheet on the BOP file which, I remind you, has moved there:

http://www.freewebs.com/slowflake/bop.xls

So adjust your bookmarks if need be. Though why would one bookmark that is beyond me.
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"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

do you seriously think that people have problems identifying princess as peach? she'll do better in a regular poll, but I've never heard someone say that princess was the best character in a mario game. she just yells help a lot.
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you've really gotta give Luigi credit for this match. I'm not sure how a 20 year old character everyone knows increases 5%, but whatever.
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Barrett is the only character from FFVII that I'd ever nominate.

On another note, Capcom seems like it's representation here is really lacking.
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Why do I have this eerie feeling Tifa will pull a Vincent and have a cataclysmic prediction percentage to accompany that equally cataclysmic performance?
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

What feeling? It will happen.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy

It better happen. My bracket could use it. <.<
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Tifa and Vincent bombing doesn't bode well for Cloud...
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy

Heh, and the board has a prediction percentage of 90.13%. This may be the board's best match ever compared to the rest... I'm in the process of finding that out.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

To be honest, we wouldn't be looking at them as duds nearly as much if they didn't have their ungodly round 1 performances though.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Yeah. They're still newcomers, after all, it's not like they dropped from previous years. Now, if it had been Aeris here, and she wasn't performing up to snuff, then we might have something here. But there's really nothing to say FFVII hasn't increased along with Nintendo, as there's simply no data for either side.

Which still makes Link/Cloud a tossup. Though Link looks to have a probable boost...making Cloud hard-pressed to catch up.
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Tifa and Vincent bombing doesn't bode well for Cloud...

They are not "bombing." Between personal expectations and their round 1 massacres, the level people were setting was just far too high to begin with. Most of us figured they would be around that near elite level. They should end up being around there, which means they met reasonable expectations.

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Most of us figured they would be around that near elite level.

The way I remember it, most were calling the Contest in their favor, and that they'd be joining the ranks of Clinkeroth.

Then again, maybe I'm just bad at detecting sarcasm.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Tifa vs. Luigi - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: Luigi (50/58)

On the topic of Link/Cloud, it may not be related to the outcome, but I have this feeling Link's going to mop up the brackets like mad. I mean, he lost in 2003 and was still the favorite the year after!
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

The way I remember it, most were calling the Contest in their favor, and that they'd be joining the ranks of Clinkeroth.

Okay, I do believe I said before the contest. Before we saw their first round performances and started getting all crazy. Hey, it was fun getting all crazy, but most of us were far more reasonable back before they decimated Vyse and Kerrigan, wouldn't you say?

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Honestly, I don't think Link vs. Cloud will be close. I think Link will clean up with 53%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy

Link cannot be getting 53% when he will not win. But should he win, I wouldn't ever imagine it being by more than 52%.

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I think 55% will be Link's ceiling. The higher the better though.
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*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

. . .

55% for Link would be absolutely disgusting.

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Honestly, I have no idea how anyone can think Cloud can win at this point. The US release date for AC was delayed. Nintendo has been dominating this contest. Vincent and Tifa bombed (seriously, 53% against LUIGI. WTF).

Link will clean up with 53%. BOOK IT.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 48/60 points
Current Match Prediction: Mega Man vs. Leon Kennedy