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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 230
From: transience | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:21:50 AM | Message Detail
Luigi in Mario Kart > everyone else.


*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251


!yawA tsoP
From: Dranze | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:22:46 AM | Message Detail
Toad in Mario Kart 64 owned all, really... >_>
From: transience | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:23:36 AM | Message Detail
super mario kart > kart 64.

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From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:26:33 AM | Message Detail
I think Luigi was slightly better.


~RPGGamer~
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:26:51 AM | Message Detail
And for that matter, Yoshi > Luigi > Toad.


~RPGGamer~
From: voltch | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:28:36 AM | Message Detail
mushrooms>all
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:31:51 AM | Message Detail
Toad or Koopa, sometimes Wario > Luigi.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:46:23 AM | Message Detail
Mario VS Sonic in the finals!
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg
From: cyko | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:51:43 AM | Message Detail
Samus > Crono in the finals!!

for my bracket! >_>

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:28:49 AM | Message Detail
Go, Tifa!

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Both knowledgeable and experienced, he can get past any tight situation without so much as breaking a sweat.
From: XIII_rocks | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:29:39 AM | Message Detail
Is tifa performing as expected?
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:30:44 AM | Message Detail
Some expected her to double Luigi, which is now safe to say that she won't.
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:32:53 AM | Message Detail
So you all think 55% on Luigi is good enough to beat Sonic now, huh? Well I sure don't. Tifas not exactly impressing here.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:49:52 AM | Message Detail
Wario and Yoshi are generally regarded as the "best" characters in Mario Kart 64, though I don't particularly use either of them.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (2) Squall 53310 (53.80%), (6) Knuckles 45780 (46.20%)
From: GrapefruitKing | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:11:00 AM | Message Detail
Luigi in Mario Kart > everyone else.

I love you
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Conker: Oh, really, that's... interesting...
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:13:43 AM | Message Detail
Toad and Koopa Troopa pwned my soul. I never touched MK64.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 51/58 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:14:12 AM | Message Detail
*looks at results*

So, Sonic would get less than 55% on Luigi? Right. Tifa's through.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:20:29 AM | Message Detail
From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 10:07:26 AM | Message Detail
Ok, I actually getting Tifa at 40% now.

Based on static KOS-MOS.

[(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
(C - KOS, B- Luigi, A- Link)
(24.42 / 34) * 50 = 35.91%

Now:
[(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
(C - Luigi, B - Tifa, A-Link)
(35.91 / 44) * 50 = 40.80% on Link!


Now this is looking like...

[(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
(C - KOS, B- Luigi, A- Link)
(24.42 / 34) * 50 = 35.91%

Now:
[(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
(C - Luigi, B - Tifa, A-Link)
(35.91 / 45) * 50 = 39.90% on Link!

Assuming is drops lower, to say 52 percent.

[(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
(C - Luigi, B - Tifa, A-Link)
(35.91 / 48) * 50 = 37.41% on Link!
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:23:41 AM | Message Detail
Go Tifa!

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:37:02 AM | Message Detail
Tifa is going down.

I really wish Mega Man had an INTERESTING division, so I could be excited about any one match there.

The only thing I can get excited about is the prospect of Yoshi making him look like garbage.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.
From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:47:09 AM | Message Detail
If Luigi hasn't increase from 04, it would put Vyse down to 11.74% (using current match 54-46), about 7% lower than next year.

Assuming KOS-MOS is constant, Vyse would be at 17.5%, about 2% lower than last year.
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/
From: Mithrandir1331 | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:47:58 AM | Message Detail
Luigi took back 35 votes on that last update.
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Carpe Diem, or so some may say. I don't really know.
From: chaos knight | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:51:40 AM | Message Detail
Seems that the concept of the Noble Nine will continue intact until next year.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:53:07 AM | Message Detail
That's not for sure yet. Snake still needs to take out bowser, and bowser looks very capable of winning that match.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:54:32 AM | Message Detail
And as I said even before this match, I'm certain Vyse has dropped. Again, with constant KOS-MOS you have too many anomalies. You have Luigi > Yoshi, and rSFF should not even be considered until we have any evidence of it whatsoever. If Ryu, who *beat* KOS-MOS, didn't drop, then Bowser is on Mario's level. And looking at Vincent this year and Aeris as well, our first conceptions seem to be true about the FF7 supporting cast being around the same level in strength. People were reaching to explain her performance against Vyse, and it never worked. I doubt that Sonic would be held to 55% against Luigi. Period.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: ToadYoshi | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:57:46 AM | Message Detail
As for MK64 read my sig.
I did not doubt for a second that Sonic would have trouble with Tifa.
Her round 1 win was probably a combination of Vyse dropping a bit and one of the best pictures in contest history.
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Yoshi > most. Toad > All. MK64 rocks.
A lot of teens have done drugs. If you haven't, put this in your sig.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:57:47 AM | Message Detail
Luigi is tsarting to win updates more frequently and take more off of the lead. He might even get tifa under a 2000 vote lead.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:59:48 AM | Message Detail
As for MK64 read my sig.
I did not doubt for a second that Sonic would have trouble with Tifa.
Her round 1 win was probably a combination of Vyse dropping a bit and one of the best pictures in contest history.


Maybe the scissors hindered vyse's ability to compete.
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From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:00:44 AM | Message Detail
ANOTHER GAIN FOR LUIGI! WOOT. he aint going down without a fight, go luigi!!!
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:04:18 AM | Message Detail
I'm all for the plumber making it interesting, lord knows we could use some more close matches. If there's one thing SC2k4 has over this contest, it's the number of matches that came down to the wire.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:05:20 AM | Message Detail
So...Aeris > Vincent > Tifa? Damn, that was my least expected order. How bizarre.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:05:30 AM | Message Detail
Mamma Mia!!!
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:07:59 AM | Message Detail
Luigi has cut 100 votes off of the lead in ~30 minutes.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:11:10 AM | Message Detail
Tifa stops the bleeding, atleast temporarily. This match is on pace for over 100,000 votes, incidentally.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:12:15 AM | Message Detail
Ah, Luigi...you continue to be a big vote draw...
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:12:34 AM | Message Detail
I find it funny that the closest round two matches have come after the gauntlet.
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From: Garsha | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:13:01 AM | Message Detail
Go Luigi!
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:13:48 AM | Message Detail
Ah, Luigi...you continue to be a big vote draw...

He IS Mario's sidekick, afterall.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:16:10 AM | Message Detail
31 votes for Tifa, though she's still losing percentage.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:18:52 AM | Message Detail
Maybe that was just a hiccup.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:21:06 AM | Message Detail
Tifa adds another 25 votes.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:21:18 AM | Message Detail
Maybe that was just a hiccup.

Doesn't look like it. Tifa's back in gear.

Though she slips below 54%, incidentally.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:22:44 AM | Message Detail
These are some monster updates, incidentally. That last one was 527 total votes.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:26:02 AM | Message Detail
The lead creeps upward another 5 votes, but boy is she losing percentage quickly.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: ToadYoshi | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:26:05 AM | Message Detail
Oops, meant to say that Sonic will have NO trouble with Tifa, not the other way.
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Yoshi > most. Toad > All. MK64 rocks.
A lot of teens have done drugs. If you haven't, put this in your sig.
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:32:03 AM | Message Detail
39 vote gain for Tifa, and the percentage stabilizes for the moment.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:38:06 AM | Message Detail
Tifa gains another 39 votes. Looks like the comeback is over for now.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:48:20 AM | Message Detail
And to think, Slow said that a 57-43 spread was free money... =/
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:55:32 AM | Message Detail
The concept of the noble nine (should be changed to top ten really) could still be kept if one of them lost. Just replace them with the character that won.

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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 9/2/2005 7:57:09 AM | Message Detail
The concept of the noble nine (should be changed to top ten really) could still be kept if one of them lost. Just replace them with the character that won.

NO. The entire concept of the Noble Nine is predicated around the assumption that they CANNOT lose to anyone outside the nine. If one goes down, the whole thing follows.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!
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