Heh, I consider it my main contribution to the CS&D topics, even if it's still debatable.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

at the risk of making myself look stupid: who/what is arbiter?

and you have more contributions than you know, heh. my best contribution is... well, nothing.

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oh, my best contribution had been to make everyone feel better by having the worst bracket possible... and then Lopen beat me by about 50 points. sucks for me!

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Arbiter is the Elite you control in Halo 2 for several levels. I wanted to have HBO link to a Master Chief match, but he was already eliminated, so I had to settle for Arbiter. My point for the experiment was to see how many people HBO attracted for the MC/Frog match. Notice how many people came to vote Arbiter over Mega Man...I would bet many more would vote MC over Frog, especially if the poll stayed up all day like MC/Frog did.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

*SPOILERS*

Arbiter is from Halo 2. He's an ex-Covanent Elite converted into the Arbiter after being given a second chance for his failure of letting Master Chief destroy the first Halo. He actually is a playable character in Halo 2.
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...ha. you rule. maybe it does make a difference. :)

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Not to brag, but I know I've done a good number of things in these topics; I just think that one is likely my most important one with alot of significance.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

I'm probably the only person here who's never seen or played Halo in my life. or any xbox game, really.

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ur contributions prove that sonic isn't losing % because of normal users voting
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45/whatever next winner=sonic
WE DO REALLY WANT BRET

Not necessarily; we don't know how many people come during the night-time from those links. I'm sure it had an effect though.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

I'm probably the only person here who's never seen or played Halo in my life. or any xbox game, really.

..Ahem.

it still could have changed the outcome by .5-1%
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45/whatever next winner=sonic
WE DO REALLY WANT BRET

I agree, and with lower vote-totals like we have today, I can see it bein' up to even 2%...but I'm gonna stick conservative about it, especially since the link today was put up much later than the rest of his links.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Who impressed you more this round, Snake or Sonic?

I'd say Sonic. He totally waxed Diablo and proved he belonged in the Noble Nine, even looking strong enough to take on Crono. Snake's performance is nothing to sneeze at either. Even with all the momentum against him, he still won with nearly 55%. Sonic looked better, though IMO.
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SC2K5 Score: 49/56
Today's Pick: Sonic the Hedgehog

Considering Sonic's acting like Crono here today, I'd say he's more impressive. Snake did well by winning when he had a lot to lose, but still, it wasn't dominant like this.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (2) Squall 53310 (53.80%), (6) Knuckles 45780 (46.20%)

soinc still dominated dispite links but up by ignorant D2 fans
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WE DO REALLY WANT BRET

Who impressed you more this round, Snake or Sonic?

definitely Snake. Sonic was never remotely feared to lose his match, while Snake looked poised to crash and burn.

also, Harrich - did the people on GFA know about your little experiment beforehand, or did you surprise them with it?

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Harrich - did the people on GFA know about your little experiment beforehand, or did you surprise them with it?

Surprised 'em as best as I could, but it wasn't long after the link was up that Master Moltar started explainin' it was an experiment from our crew. To my knowledge though, aside from maybe Moltar, nobody knew before-hand.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

For Snake's part, he had a ton of the people here out for his blood and calling for his downfall. Not only that, but he got hit with one of the worst pictures he's ever received, even for him--Solid ****-esque. For him not only to beat Zelda, but decisively, and do so to make him look as strong as Mario from an adjusted Vivi, is no small feat.

But while Sonic was never in danger of losing this match, he had a lot to prove. Tifa put up Samus-like numbers using a constant Vyse. Sonic did far worse than the board expected him to on Jin, and even now people are still out for his blood even more than they were for Snake's. So, what does he do? He goes out next round and CREAMS Diablo, so much that it looks like he could be a threat to Crono--and he may actually be stronger than he appears, as Diablo's final value is derived from Ganondorf, in a match where he was not linked. For whatever span of time, he *is* linked in this match. Tifa has to prove that her win against Vyse was no fluke, or she's dead.

Sonic was more impressive, by far.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

I'm also gonna side with Sonic, for the sole reason that there's alot less of margin for error between losing to Tifa and beating Crono right now. Solid may get to the Final Four, but he stops at Mario/Samus...period.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

I don't recall seeing stats for the last two divisions, so I'll do them...

Flood Division: Upper half

Master Chief - 50.00%
Donkey Kong - 49.21%
Sam Fisher - 34.68%
CATS - 31.17%

Flood Division: Lower Half

Crono - 50.00%
Tommy Vercetti - 29.15%
Kefka - 28.48%
Zidane Tribal - 23.28%

Devil Division: Upper Half

Vincent Valentine - 50.00%
Dante - 46.00%
Terra Branford - 26.22%
Sarah Kerrigan - 21.00%

Devil Division: Lower Half

Squall Leonhart - 50.00%
Knuckles the Echidna - 46.20%
Magus - 45.40%
Geno - 25.16%


For the record, Kefka would be expected to get 59.12% on Zidane. Terra would get almost exactly 60% against Kerrigan. Magus would get 72.29% on Geno. That's just to give you an idea of the disparity from 3rd to 4th.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (2) Squall 53310 (53.80%), (6) Knuckles 45780 (46.20%)

Sorry, I've been slacking because of school.
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SC2K5 Score: 49/56
Today's Pick: Sonic the Hedgehog

Zidane fared better than I thought, with 40% on Kefka before SFF. He can still prove to be a mid-carder given the right match-up.
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Kefka is barely a midcarder himself. Zidane is true blue fodder.
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Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

Zidane got SSF'D by Crono, I'd like to see him return and face a non-Square character so we can get a better measurement.
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vote totals:

18:50:

Sonic/Diablo - 80243
Squall/Knuckles - 86711

total difference: 6468
8.0% more in Squall/Knuckles

20:50:

Sonic/Diablo - 86649
Squall/Knuckles - 93444

total difference: 6795
7.8% more in Squall/Knuckles

doesn't look like the link is doing much at all, assuming voting trends remain the same in both matches.
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Wait, do those stats adjust Zidane for SFF? Depending on the extent, would he beat Kefka?
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

I really doubt Crono SFF'd Zidane myself.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

I'd think Zidane would probably get 45% on Kefka, myself; that's right, Zidane caught minimal SFF in my book.

Zidane or Terra, who wins?
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Wait, do those stats adjust Zidane for SFF?

...How exactly would you go about doing that?
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

that's right, Zidane caught minimal SFF in my book.

Going from 40% to 45% =/= Minimal SFF
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

Zidane over Terra. Kefka over Zidane.
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...How exactly would you go about doing that?

Hey, people did it for the game contest. It was all guessing, but they did it. =/
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Oh, Zidane would beat Terra, easily. Crono is much stronger than Vincent, so that 23% for him is more impressive than Terra's projected 26% on Vincent.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

So is Kerrigan basically going to be last place in the X-Stats?
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Huh-CHA!

Nah, Yuri Hyuga should still take last place.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

I would think Yuri would still rank lower, but we'll just have to see where Vincent places her.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Depending on how Mario vs. Samus goes, CJ could be last in the unadjusted stats. A big LOL to that.
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You have no chance to survive make your time.

I don't think the SFF between Crono/Zidane is anything severe... no more than 5%. I'd place Zidane somewhere between Kefka and Viewtiful Joe myself. I don't see anybody under Viewtiful Joe in 2k4 being able to beat Zidane... He may even be able to give Kefka a match.

...How exactly would you go about doing that?

I always wondered how Sp2k4 was "adjusted" for SFF myself...
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i seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt there was any significant SFF in Zidane vs. Crono. that wouldn't be much different than claiming that Cloud would SFF Crono and that Crono would SFF Squall, Aeris, and Vincent. it just doesn't make sense.

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Yeah, I wouldn't expect old Square to SFF new Square, or vice-versa.
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Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

I should have noticed I think Zidane would have also had a small advantage facing Kefka by being from new-Square's side of the wall...but yeah, Terra/Zidane shouldn't be that close afterall. Whoops.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

THEORY: Sonic = Adopted Nintendo

Nintendo = STROOOONGER, THAN YESTERDAY

Mario = Nintendo

Mario wins.

Thank you.
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Next victim: Master Zero

I really don't think Zidane would get any added benefit from being new Square. If he's not popular, he's not popular. Facing old Square won't change that.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

There's nothing wrong with thinking that an extremely popular character like Crono isn't slightly unproportionally preferred over a weaker character like Zidane by fans of both. I'm only talking 5% MAX... We really can only speculate regardless.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

And that's 5% on Crono... not Base Link. It's really not that big of an increase.
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http://www.usagichan2.com/Comiket64/images/CM64-Sun150.JPG

Proof that Luigi is the superior Mario brother.

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So you're saying he should've gotten 28.23% instead? Almost equal to Kefka?

As much as I'd love to believe that, I doubt it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (2) Squall 53310 (53.80%), (6) Knuckles 45780 (46.20%)

And so ends the second out of seven days of what I call Old School 4 Life.

Knuckles vs. Squall
Sonic vs. Diablo
Tifa vs. Luigi
Mega Man vs. Leon
Yoshi vs. Pac-Man
Mario vs. Zero
Samus vs. Ganondorf
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

I know I'm old, but... Tifa and Squall are oldschool?

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