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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 229
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:11:16 AM | Message Detail
Right, which isn't far off from static Vyse.
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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:12:30 AM | Message Detail
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 10:11:16 AM | Message Detail
Right, which isn't far off from static Vyse.


Indeed, two pieces of evidence to show Tifa could beat Sonic or even come close to winning the contest, right now.
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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:20:27 AM | Message Detail
Also, using the current value of 57%, not 56% as it was, it's even closer to 42%.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:21:36 AM | Message Detail
Thats assuming, of course, Luigi increased like a bat out of hell for absolutely zero reason. Well besides Super Mario 64 DS. Still the type of increase you guys are talking would make Bowser raise an eyebrow.
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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:23:05 AM | Message Detail
He didn't raise for no reason.

He was caught behind two lots of potential SSF last year and if you combine that with this "Nintendo Boost", it all makes sense.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:29:04 AM | Message Detail
Yeah but no Nintendo character has gained the level of boost you guys are saying Luigi got. Also we have pretty reliable 2k3 numbers for him. Luigi would have to increase more than Ganon or Bowser could ever of dreamed of to reach the level you guys are talking about.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:37:59 AM | Message Detail
"Thats assuming, of course, Luigi increased like a bat out of hell for absolutely zero reason. Well besides Super Mario 64 DS."

Well, there's also Link/Yoshi SFF (Yoshi is up 2.5-3% if Laharl is static) and Yoshi/Luigi SFF.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:39:57 AM | Message Detail
"Yeah but no Nintendo character has gained the level of boost you guys are saying Luigi got."

No Nintendo character has even been double SFF'd, appeared in some new titles of varying interest (Including a remake/rerelease of one of the best games ever) and then actually came back to the contest. On the other hand, non-Nintendo cahracters have made gains this large IIRC.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:49:18 AM | Message Detail
That's all well and good, but it can't help but seem that we're almost grasping at straws to make Tifa look better.
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:54:44 AM | Message Detail
"That's all well and good, but it can't help but seem that we're almost grasping at straws to make Tifa look better."


Thats exactly what your all doing. Luigi didn't gain that much and Vyse and KOS aren't constant. Tifa is beating a weak Nintendo character (who would still probably lose to Yoshi) by like a thousand or so votes. Big deal. I will be extremely surprised if she comes anywhere close to beating Sonic.

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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/2/2005 2:56:13 AM | Message Detail
Its more then a thousand now, but still. Luigi will probably recover some ground during the day.

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From: voltch | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:12:34 AM | Message Detail
is this match exciting?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:14:21 AM | Message Detail
"That's all well and good, but it can't help but seem that we're almost grasping at straws to make Tifa look better."

Yeah, sure, KOS and Vyse just dropped like rocks nearly in proportion to eachother for no reason and with no relationship between them. Your logic is flawless, and by flawless I actually mean baseless. Grasping at straws? Not one but two characters are putting Tifa at an insane level, and the further this match goes the closer those two characters get to predicting Tifa at the same level. There's no grasping at straws here, even if she doesn't win she's certainly outranking every non-Noble Nine Square character.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:22:32 AM | Message Detail
Exciting? No. I was barely concious last night and I called 58% for Tifa. It's, frankly, predictable. Are the implications good? Yes. While we jumped the gun on Vincent we know have two characters pointing Tifa in the same direction. She may not reach the same lofty heights as those character put her (even I'm sceptical and as such I'm pegging her 8% lower), but she looks too damn good to deny the possibility.
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From: Dark115 | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:27:25 AM | Message Detail
I'm still going to wait until the Tifa/Sonic match to declare a winner. I think its entirely possible for Tifa to beat Sonic. I don't think either of them has it in the bag already though.

Personally I'd like to see Tifa beat Sonic so for once a Noble Nine member will loose to an outsider, of course we could see that first with Bowser over Snake
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:32:54 AM | Message Detail
The only thing I have against Tifa > Sonic is the decimation of my bracket. this is the first year I've ever been in the top 50, and while there are 4 guarenteed lost points I'm willing to believe that if the rest of the matches go according to my bracket I could be in the prizes.
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From: Gooper Blooper | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:37:34 AM | Message Detail
No Nintendo character has even been double SFF'd

*insert Pikachu here*
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:44:27 AM | Message Detail
Finish the sentance, Gooper. No Nintendo character has been double SFFed, had reason to increase AND made it back into the contest. Of course Pikachu was double SFFed (and was behind Cloud in 2k2) but he didn't come back in 2k4 to prove that he was highly underrated.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:47:28 AM | Message Detail
Tifa will not beat Sonic, even squall beat luigi by more and yoshi also won against luigi.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:52:13 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, sure, KOS and Vyse just dropped like rocks nearly in proportion to eachother for no reason and with no relationship between them.

RPG fans moved on to a new cult title already and stopped caring about Xenosaga, Disgaea, SoA et al. The next time it comes around, expect Lloyd and Kratos (if they even return) to be even weaker than this time. It's not a new concept, I worked that one out before Yoshi/Laharl, and sure enough, Laharl was poor. The only surprise is that he didn't do even worse and get tripled.

I'm not surprised at all that Tifa isn't doing better against Luigi. This is more or less what I expected.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:52:46 AM | Message Detail
Yes, because we've never seen things change in a year or two *cough*Cloudwinning,CronobeatingMario*cough* and we've never seen a character underrated by SFF *cough*DK,Ness,Auron,Kefka,Sora*cough*
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2005 3:58:22 AM | Message Detail
"This is more or less what I expected."

You do realize that regardless of the truth of that statment (you expecting it) I'm calling bs, right? You just happen to expect that two completely unrelated characters would drop proportionately? Right. And Laharl? There's absolutely no sign that he has dropped. Given Yoshi's only losing matches were to Bowser and Link (potential SFF in both) he should be higher than previously expected, and he's right where most of us thought he would be.
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From: voltch | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:19:05 AM | Message Detail
yoshi seems kind of an ignored character. he does well enough for himself but no one seems to care
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:20:20 AM | Message Detail
'Cuz his road is cut-n-dry enough.
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From: transience | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:23:07 AM | Message Detail
Yoshi being higher than Luigi bugs the hell out of me. I just don't like Yoshi, I guess.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:30:51 AM | Message Detail
Yoshi > Luigi last year bugs me too, but only because of what Luigi's doin'; would Tifa/Yoshi be goin' about 52-48 right now?
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From: transience | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:32:47 AM | Message Detail
yeah, that seems weird to me too. I'm curious to see if MM destroys Yoshi or not. it sure looks like Luigi is going to outrank him when all is said and done.
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From: cyko | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:37:49 AM | Message Detail
and Luigi is pushing back with the day vote. he's gone from 43.17% to 43.75% in 30 minutes and even narrowly won a couple of updates.

and then there were two...... now, it really looks like whoever wins Samus vs. Mario is winning this thing. and it really looks like Tifa will not be able to take Sonic at this point. even if Luigi has risen to Auron's 2K3 value (around 29% x-stat value), then Tifa will still be a little below Aeris's 32.8% 2K3 value if she wins with 56%.

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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:56:41 AM | Message Detail
OMG Luigi is making a huge comeback.
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:57:14 AM | Message Detail
...aaaaand under 56% she goes...man Luigi is ridiculously slicing that percentage.
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/2/2005 4:58:34 AM | Message Detail
OMG Luigi is making a huge comeback.

I'll call it a comeback when Luigi actually starts knocking down her lead. And last update, he took off a whopping one vote.

Of course, I'm rooting like hell for Luigi to come back and win.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:01:09 AM | Message Detail
Tifa doing a little worse that I predicted, but I'm liking it.

Go Luigi!

And Sonic's path out of this division just got alot clearer.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:05:42 AM | Message Detail
Another gain from Luigi, at this rate he might have the lead 3 hours after the poll has been closed.
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From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:08:59 AM | Message Detail
When does the day vote really go full-swing?

Luigi's doing pretty good right now in stalling Tifa, but I'm worried Tifa might start increasing again.

At least it makes Luigi look stronger if he has higher percentage, though I'd rather he decrease Tifa's lead more than he's doing.
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From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:21:16 AM | Message Detail
Tifa's increasing her lead again. Bleh.

Percentage's still dropping, though.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:28:29 AM | Message Detail
Bah. I'm not pleased at all by Luigi's jolt this past thirty minutes in slicing Tifa's percentage like that.

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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:32:41 AM | Message Detail
I'm really pleased with this result. The character I really wanted to see in this contests made it pst the 2nd round, but is not going to upset my favourite character of all. It's also nice to see that Sonic will make it to the elite eight without having any trouble at all.
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:39:40 AM | Message Detail
Oh man... Luigi is losing... but he's giving it a good match... hmm.... Tifa is not looking much stronger than Yoshi, and yet those two faced Laharl and Vyse and... weird.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:42:19 AM | Message Detail
And it's above 2000. Bye bye Luigi :D
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:48:35 AM | Message Detail
Good job, Luigi. Sonic looks pretty safe at this point. I really don't see Luigi getting 45% on Sonic, no matter what anyone wants to say. At this point, it seems like Vincent might have the edge on Tifa, too.

Then again, Tifa doesn't have her, ahem, "added benefits" helping her out this round.
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From: dragon master saaji | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:55:02 AM | Message Detail
Well if next round is the sprite round then Sonic will easily win.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:56:53 AM | Message Detail
Wow, Luigi's going about 50/50 with Tifa right now. Impressive.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 9/2/2005 5:58:34 AM | Message Detail
I wake up to Tifa over 55%, with a 2000 vote lead, with 1/4 of the match in the books. Unless Luigi pulls a day vote monsterous performance, I believe I will live to see another day...

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:00:43 AM | Message Detail
Luigi just won an update! The comeback begins!
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:02:29 AM | Message Detail
You guys sure like to change your tune quickly. Two hours ago you where all in agreement that Tifa could beat Sonic. Meh.

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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:03:55 AM | Message Detail
Luigi's ability to win the odd update is impressive. I figured that he might win back maybe 2% at the most during the day, but it looks like Tifa's going to finish with under 55%.

Question: who would you pick to win in a match after seeing this, yoshi or tifa?
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:06:06 AM | Message Detail
Probably Tifa. Square fans would see to it one way or the other *cough* that she didn't lose to Yoshi.

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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:09:24 AM | Message Detail
Question: who would you pick to win in a match after seeing this, yoshi or tifa?

Tifa, I still think Yoshi rSSFed Luigi.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/2/2005 6:10:09 AM | Message Detail
Mario VS Sonic in the finals!
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