I should really get around to playing Sonic Mega Collection one of these days.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP

Yes, you should.

Sonic! He can really move!
Sonic! He's got an attitude!
Sonic! He's the fastest thing alive!
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

Sonic>Tifa and Megaman
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

sonic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>diablo>jin
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

What, so... pt 229, ya?
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.

Knuckes is the purpose for MC+


^_^

KB

I just sold it back to EBGames for $12. In other words, I spent a net $7 to have the privilege to throw my controller all around the room because every Sonic game blows. Yippee.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 51/58 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)

Mario VS Sonic in the finals! The perfect way to end this contests.
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

Hey LOOK!

Viktor is building a house of LIES!!!

Sonic games RULE!


KB

Tifa > Luigi!

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http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5980/12mw.gif
Both knowledgeable and experienced, he can get past any tight situation without so much as breaking a sweat.

Sonic Mega Collection is the collection to end all collections.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

Except for 3D Blast.
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Chun-Li > Bowser book it - lol_internet
Vote for Kirby in SC2K5!

The original Sonic games (1, 2, 3, 3&K) plus Sonic Spinball (a personal favorite of mine) makes that collection truly amazing.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

e

I must say, better 500 post than usual.
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I can't think of anything to put here, but I can't just leave it blank, can I?

^agrees.


Squall >=Gannondorf.


*runs*


KB

hehe, i wanted to post something but then i saw the topic was almost full..
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

e is better than the pro-Squall 500 posts we've been getting.
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http://picturesofwalls.com

Sonic 1-3, S&K, and Sonic Spinball make SMC a must-have. The rest of the games on there are very meh, though.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

I should really get around to playing Sonic Mega Collection one of these days.

Me too. I bought it about a month ago, played it a few times, then haven't had the time to touch it since...
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.

Sonic was actually my favorite game and char, but all 3D sonic games just ruined it. Sonic failed in which link and mario succeeded.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

damn i was trying to get the bare necessities as the 500th post


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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

tag
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/56 points
Current Match Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Diablo

Ah what the hell. I only "haven't had time" because I sit on board 8 all day. Screw this. *goes to play Sonic mega collection*
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.

Sonic 1-3, S&K, and Sonic Spinball make SMC a must-have. The rest of the games on there are very meh, though.

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is reason enough to buy it, and having S&K on it makes it THAT much more of a reason for people to go to hell if they don't have SMC, heh.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Why haven't you people bought Sonic Gems Collection? Sonic CD is waiting for you.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.

Worst.500th post.EVER.
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

so do we call him eggman or robotnik nowadays?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

mean bean machine was the best tetris clone ever. It made the multiplayer actually a lot of fun. I remember playing it one year ago on the sega, and it still was a lot of fun.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

Thank you meche!!
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

Tetris clone? Maybe Kirby's Avalanche; I don't know which of them came first though. Either way, it's a puzzle game, yes, but not a Tetris clone.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

This was the best post period in the last topic.

From: Kaxon | Posted: 9/1/2005 4:14:39 PM | Message Detail
As I said, I do NOT buy Link/MM SFF.
I've played a lot of early LoZ games, and some MM games as well, they're fundamentally different.

It doesn't matter if the games are fundamentally different. It's not like Yoshi's games are the same as Link's. All that matters is whether the same people like both games. When they're from the same time period and same system, that's going to be the case. Especially when it's Link, since everyone who was playing that console at that time played his games.

Crono's game is on a Nintendo console as well, are you going to say that Link SFF him too?

They do have fanbase overlap, but that doesn't mean the fans prefer Link by a larger ratio than stats would project. Fanbase overlap is only one half of SFF. Their fanbase overlap is also smaller than Link/MM's for several reasons. CT wasn't on the NES, but came out when genres were more developed and had more distinct fanbases. CT came out three years after Link's only SNES game, instead of concurrently. CT was played by many people on their computers or Playstations, and not on the SNES.

I've been trying to say this for the longest, but I couldn't quite word it in the right way for people to understand.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Mean Bean Machine is a Puyo Puyo clone.

If you're going to call a game a "clone", at least make sure you know what game its cloning.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.

Ok I'm sorry I call everytihng where something falls down and you have to make blocks, lines, 4 on a row or anything else out of it a tetris clone. It does have the same concept, don't let the screen become full by making all blocks vanish.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

**SPOILERS***
Mewtwo is a Mew clone!!!
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

So I've got a question for the stats people here: What was the longest time anyone has stayed perfect in any contest??
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

4 people lost their perfects on the Diablo/Kefka match.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

i got a very random question.
what did ulti do with his game contest winnings?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

SFF happens in every match as at least one of the voters has played either game and likes both characters, usually the those voters are split, but they are some cases where voters tend to lean on one character over another.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Yes, but I mean the longest number of matches in a row from the beginning of any contest since 2002 that someone has stayed perfect.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

Since I listen to Sir Crono, because he is never wrong.

Who wins Squall/Vince.

Who wins Luigi/Tifa.

and Is Sonic that much stronger?


Bonus: Worth 2 points. By how much % for each question.


KB

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/1/2005 5:13:36 PM | #038
SFF happens in every match as at least one of the voters has played either game and likes both characters, usually the those voters are split, but they are some cases where voters tend to lean on one character over another.

That's when we refer to it as SFF. SFF as we call it commonly isn't so much the fact that some people like both character, as much as the mathematical anomaly caused by them all going to the same side.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

It doesn't matter if the games are fundamentally different. It's not like Yoshi's games are the same as Link's. All that matters is whether the same people like both games. When they're from the same time period and same system, that's going to be the case. Especially when it's Link, since everyone who was playing that console at that time played his games.

That only proved fanbase overlap, which I agree is only HALF the story.

They do have fanbase overlap, but that doesn't mean the fans prefer Link by a larger ratio than stats would project. Fanbase overlap is only one half of SFF. Their fanbase overlap is also smaller than Link/MM's for several reasons. CT wasn't on the NES, but came out when genres were more developed and had more distinct fanbases. CT came out three years after Link's only SNES game, instead of concurrently. CT was played by many people on their computers or Playstations, and not on the SNES.

The reason Crono didn't get SFF'ed is because his appeal is different to Link's, same reason for MM.

Genre's has developed more distinctly even before CT.

And MM's later games should completely separate his appeal from Link's, allowing him to avoid/minimize any SFF.

I've been trying to say this for the longest, but I couldn't quite word it in the right way for people to understand.

So, it's still bad argument.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

now this may sound wierd but has a board 8 member ever died? i mean some gamefaqs user have passed away and i was wondering if anyone from board 8 did.

not that i disrespect them or anything
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

tossup on Squall/Vincent. Tifa's the big favourite.

Leon would say the same, though it sounded like he was leaning toward Vincent as the favourite.
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http://picturesofwalls.com

How would you know if someone dies.... He just isn't online anymore..
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

Heh, sorry about that ps2, but that was just sincere. <__<
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

well we all knew kao megura died so i wondered i the same could happen on board 8.
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

well we all knew kao megura died so i wondered i the same could happen on board 8.

Unless it's a popular one like Ulti, I don't think anyone will notice.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

by the way did anyone here use kao's FF7 FAQ. it's become legendary nowadays hasn't it
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

How did they find out that he died?
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy