As a parting gift... my personal ranking of the FF characters in this contest, in terms of Favorites, of course.

Vincent
Vivi
Sephiroth
Tifa
Zidane
Kefka
Auron
Cloud
Terra
Rikku
Cecil
Tidus
Yuna
Squall

And wow, I just realized there are a hell of a lot of FF characters in this year (though 2 are in the ToC). Too bad two of them were absolute scrubs, anyone can replace them next year... but if they get to be Square characters here's hoping for Aeris and Serge.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.

Sonic doing a little better than I expected. Good to see.

Bye bye Tifa! >.>
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Sonic vs. Diablo - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (48/56)

Sonic got almost 300 last update. If that's a sign of the day vote favoring Sonic by a huge margin... Ouch.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119

Aaaaaand straight through the bone cage Sonic goes. Jeez, 70% before the day vote? After a pitiful first round, he's at least showing signs of life.

But seriously, what's with the people who think Squall > Tifa? If you're weaker than Squall, you don't fluke a performance even Samus wouldn't do. PERIOD.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

We'll see on Tifa vs Luigi. :P

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

We already saw it when Magus faced Link, you know. He couldn't fluke his way past Snake.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Nice to see Sonic pushing 70%. This I think finally shows everyone that Jin was decent fodder and more importantly, nothing was wrong with Sonic from the start.

...oh, I forgot, Diablo's very good with the day vote.

Carry on.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

I wake up to Sonic makin' a run at 70%, and with his legendary day vote he will no doubt hit that figure, making the Ganon/Diablo match seem pretty right on. Gogo Gadget X-Stats!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 49/56 (Kefka, Magus (x2), Ocelot, Tidus)

I still don't believe in Xstats, but I will say its nice to see Sonic critics ONCE AGAIN silenced...until next year, where we'll have to endure more "OMG Sonic upset!"
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.

He's not far away from 70% now. The noble nine wins again!
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

70!
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

So who is stronger, diablo or Leon?
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy

Ya know, the worse Sonic beats Diablo, the better it makes both Sonic and Jin look. As of right now, Jin would get 39.9% on Diablo, not all that much lower than Ridley.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

The noble nine wins again!

If Bowser beats Snake, can we please ditch that term?

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

If Bowser beats Snake, can we please ditch that term?


Of course, but until one of the noble nine characters losses to an "outsider" we will keep the noble nine term :D
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

If anything, it'll have already been gone into vapor for days by the time Bowser gets his first vote in that match.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

..it's such an unbelievably useless term, and it creates a psychological barrier that nine characters can't lose to anyone outside of the circle. Then again, most people just look at the stats and assume that the pattern goes down much farther than through the first nine characters.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Bingo. Had you pitted Ganondorf against Snake last year, a loss wasn't out of the question.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

I still like the Noble Nine term 'cuz everybody know who you're talkin' about and they've had our respect in contest-strength since the first contest. Once they lose though (which is probably gonna happen this contest), the term's essentially gonna be broken...I guarantee it'll still be used though.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

*eats words*

Looks like Sonic isn't as weak as I thought he was. Ah well, I'm still confident in Tifa. Wait until tomorrow before dismissing her.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

im not savy with the stats, but based on this match and past stats, would sonic beat mario if sff was not a factor?
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds

I forget Diablo's exact value, but I've heard him be called Yoshi's equal before the contest, so I'm gonna assume Diablo = Yoshi 2k4 here...but, assuming adjusted Yoshi was constant this year, this currently puts Sonic at 42.01% against Link 2k4...which is damn near on-par with Sephiroth, much like Tifa's performance against Vyse.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

so is that a yes to sonic being statisticaly able to beat MARIO?
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds

In fact, assuming Diablo = Yoshi 2k4 (and Sonic beats Diablo with 30.03%) and Vyse was constant again this year, Sonic'll beat Tifa with 51.37%...hmmm.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

That's a yes to Sonic beatin' everybody who's never won a contest before, including Mario. Now, it's still too early to say officially, of course, and this is assuming Diablo = Yoshi 2k4 (since I don't remember his EXACT value)...but, right now, yeah, Sonic > Mario looks realistic.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Excellent, Sonic is doing exactly as he should be against Diablo.

And on another random note, I somehow got the Captain Olimar trophy in SSBM. Someone must have been playing Pikmin on my Cube. Well, thanks, whoever that was.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

its pretty safe to assume some heavy sff factor in a sonic mario match though correct? im guessing that might give mario the edge.
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds

Sonic is definitely looking impressive in this match. This makes him look capable of taking down megaman and tifa. Hopefully this serves as further proof to people that they shouldn't be assuming things about one character based on a match with another character that has completely unknown strength.
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I would expect SSF in a Mario/Sonic match due to the past rivalry between Nintendo and Sega. It wouldn't be as strong as it would have been, say, ten years ago due to Sega's fall to third-party developer.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

Wait, why would sonic vs. mario have any notable SFF at all?
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well a lot of people like me, grew up with both character. hell, i even remember watching both sonic and mario cartoons on staurday mornings. its no secret that mario and sonic share a lot of the same fans even now. Look at sonic adventure 2 being top ten on the gc boards.
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds

But why would one drain votes from the other and not the reverse?
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

im just speculating that when it comes to some one who is a fan of both, mario probaly holds a little more meaning or importance. Thats probaly just me talking though. forget it.
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
possible goty contenders: castlevania dos, we love katamari, mario kart ds

Mario Vs. Sonic would look like Super Mario World Vs. Sonic 2

YES IT WOULD.
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To settle my score with you, I came dancing all the way up from the fires of hell.

well a lot of people like me, grew up with both character. hell, i even remember watching both sonic and mario cartoons on staurday mornings. its no secret that mario and sonic share a lot of the same fans even now. Look at sonic adventure 2 being top ten on the gc boards.

True behind Mario, Sonic is my favorite main character.
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17 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld market, 17 have failed. (see quote for list)

Mario Vs. Sonic would look like Super Mario World Vs. Sonic 2

I seriously doubt it. SMW vs Sonic 2 is an entirely different case. Most people think that Super Mario World is the superior game between the two, but it doesn't mean that they like Mario as a CHARACTER better than Sonic. Games =/= Characters.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Heh, it's funny seeing SMW/Sonic 2 when there's also Mario/Shadow to look at.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Ouch.

Tifa's going to have to get nothing short of a doubling tomorrow to really have a shot at Sonic.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

It's been claimed numerous times that games =/= characters. If they were equal, then Geno would lay a beatdown on Ryu.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

*sigh*

Didn't I tell everyone here that Jin >>>>>>>> Kazuya? That he was the new face of Tekken? That he really wasn't that weak?

*sigh*
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Geno would totally kill Ryu, guy
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"Let's mosey"
Summer Contest Score: 50/54, Predicted Winner: Crono

The issue's not Jin being underestimated, it's that Sonic is totally mopping the floor with Diablo, to such an extent that based on a constant Sonic, Diablo should've never beaten Bison, and the Kefka match should've been, if not lost, at least very close.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Sonic may not have stayed constant. Or, more likely, Diablo has fallen.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Like I said earlier, I believe the new influx of voters favor old-school.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.

Or maybe Diablo is just overrated. There's the question of how much the Diablo fan sites affected previous results.

Well, Diablo's final value is based on Ganondorf, a match in which he was not linked.

Based on a constant Diablo, Sonic rises to 41.55% on Link, ahead of Crono. Man, Mario/Sonic this year would be sweet, if only because it'd be completely unexpected. Oh, this also moves Jin up to 19.81%, so we might be calling it the JFL next year, if this is true, heh.

A constant Sonic moves Diablo down to 21.70%, nearly a full percent below Kefka. This also brings Ganondorf down to 31.17%, below Squall. In other words, it's more likely that Sonic has gone up quite a bit than anything else. Either that, or Diablo SOMEHOW overperformed on Ganondorf.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

I thought the vote totals for this match looked poor, and I was right. It's behind Zero/Lloyd right now.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

My theory is that Diablo overperformed against Ganondorf. New characters with potential strength often overperform (sometimes by leaps and bounds) in their very first contest, and then disappoint (sometimes greatly) in their next. See also: Magus (a little bit), Frog, Revolver Ocelot. This does not apply to fodder that happen to make more than one contest.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

I love how some people refuse to accept a Sonic boost.
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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.