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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 228
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:54:48 AM | Message Detail
At this point, based on a static Diablo, Sonic stands at 40.12% on Link. That's ahead of Mario, folks.

Isn't that fairly close to where WDF'd Sonic 2k2 would appear?

You'd put Zelda over Squall and Auron?

Uh, I was just ranking those specific characters, nobody else. Sorry if I gave the impression that there was nobody else in there, Zero definitely would have been there I had ranked everyone. Auron would be ahead of Aeris, and Squall would be behind her.

I really have no idea with Squall vs. Vincent. FF7 should SFF FF8 but Vincent is optional while Squall is the main character.

Stronger characters SFF weaker characters, period. It doesn't matter if FFVII would SFF CT, it'll still be Crono getting the SFF against Vincent, and Vincent vs. Squall will be SFF-free (if the characters are as close to each other as they appear to be).
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From: voltch | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:55:13 AM | Message Detail
squall can hope to get 40% on crono but not more. sonic and mega man can on the other hand get near 48% on crono i'd imagine
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:56:18 AM | Message Detail
69? Sonic your little pervert >_>
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:56:23 AM | Message Detail
WDF'd Sonic is at 41.05%, so yes.

And Sonic just broke 69% here. Awesome.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:57:12 AM | Message Detail
Stronger characters SFF weaker characters, period.

Explain Luigi Vs Yoshi
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:57:48 AM | Message Detail
...What? Luigi isn't stronger than Yoshi...
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From: The Real Truth | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:57:49 AM | Message Detail
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:54:48 AM | Message Detail
Stronger characters SFF weaker characters, period. It doesn't matter if FFVII would SFF CT, it'll still be Crono getting the SFF against Vincent, and Vincent vs. Squall will be SFF-free (if the characters are as close to each other as they appear to be).


Thoughts on Mario vs. Samus then?
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:58:42 AM | Message Detail
But that KOS-MOS match and Laharl match makes me wonder..
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:58:45 AM | Message Detail
Thoughts on Mario vs. Samus then?

Samus wins, 57.5-52.5.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:59:19 AM | Message Detail
You'd put Zelda over Squall and Auron?

We have a pretty easy comparison between Zelda and Squall:

Squall got 53.8% on Knuckles
Snake got 59.54% on Knuckles
Zelda got 45.59% on Snake

According to the stats, Zelda gets 52% on Squall. Could be a good match, but I'd be happy to take Zelda.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:59:30 AM | Message Detail
Oh is Kratos>Lloyd still a safe bet?
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From: The Real Truth | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:59:43 AM | Message Detail
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:58:45 AM | Message Detail
Samus wins, 57.5-52.5.


Well it should be an interesting match. I do have Samus winning however.
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From: voltch | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:59:46 AM | Message Detail
mario wins by the same margin he beat cloud
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From: The Real Truth | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:00:44 AM | Message Detail
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/1/2005 1:59:30 AM | Message Detail
Oh is Kratos>Lloyd still a safe bet?


Ah yes, what about

Zidane/Vivi?
Auron/Tidus?
Tidus/Rikku?
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From: The Real Truth | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:01:17 AM | Message Detail
Actually I think I'd take Vivi over Zidane myself.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:01:36 AM | Message Detail
All but unsure about Rikku.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:02:12 AM | Message Detail
Stronger characters SFF weaker characters, period.

Explain Luigi Vs Yoshi


Bowser and Squall 2k3 are practically equal, yet Yoshi did 4% better against Bowser than Squall did against Luigi, despite being behind SFF. Yoshi 2k3 > Luigi 2k3, Yoshi 2k4 > Luigi 2k4, Yoshi 2k5 ? Luigi 2k5.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:02:49 AM | Message Detail
Snake got 59.54% on Knuckles

Would he get that high again though?
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From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:02:54 AM | Message Detail
I love the Tifa overestimation. When Luigi gets 46% tomorrow, you will all be singing a different tune.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:05:27 AM | Message Detail
Kratos/Lloyd?
Zidane/Vivi?
Auron/Tidus?
Tidus/Rikku?


Kratos, Vivi, Auron, Tidus. All of them would be pretty close, other than Auron/Tidus, with Rikku/Tidus the closest of them all. There could be some bizarre SFF in that match because of the relationship between the two.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:06:05 AM | Message Detail
Sonic is losing his percents really quick now. :(
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:06:11 AM | Message Detail
Yoshi's taking Megaman down. If people want to believe in sff of epic proportions for the Link/Mega match, there's no reason Yoshi shouldn't be able to scrape enough of it for the win.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:06:36 AM | Message Detail
Meh, I really doubt Tifa is that weak, unless Luigi has increased in strength.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:06:36 AM | Message Detail
"Would he get that high again though?"

Are ya nuts? That's the worst SS has done against Knux in 3 attempts.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:07:10 AM | Message Detail
Snake got 59.54% on Knuckles

Would he get that high again though?


A better question would be if he could get the 63.13% he got in 2k3. Snake 2k5 > Snake 2k3, and Knux 2k5 > Knux 2k3, but I'm not sure by how much. I'd probably take Snake with 60%, maybe a little higher.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:10:47 AM | Message Detail
Yoshi's taking Megaman down. If people want to believe in sff of epic proportions for the Link/Mega match, there's no reason Yoshi shouldn't be able to scrape enough of it for the win.

...3% is epic?

Meh, I really doubt Tifa is that weak, unless Luigi has increased in strength.

Well, if Dante 2k5 = Dante 2k3 and Tifa = Vincent, Luigi needs to increase 3% to do that well. I can certainly see that, although I believe that Dante 2k5 is a little (just a little) better than Dante 2k3...probably .5-1% better.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:11:41 AM | Message Detail
I knew it was to good to be true. :(
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:12:02 AM | Message Detail
On second thought, there should not be any plausible reason to speculate on Knuckles/Snake, because that is one match that should never occur again.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:12:13 AM | Message Detail
Snake 2k5 > Snake 2k3

We're not 100% sure on that.
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:12:36 AM | Message Detail
...3% is epic?

shhhhh!
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:16:53 AM | Message Detail
Snake 2k5 > Snake 2k3

We're not 100% sure on that.


Do I really need to post "IMO" after everything I say? That's just what I believe, although I suppose I might be a little biased toward Snake. It just seems unlikely that Vivi is that weak, especially after DK almost beat Master Chief.
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From: Nai | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:17:58 AM | Message Detail
So, how's Tifa going tomorrow? Over 60% on Luigi, or even doubling Luigi?
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From: The Real Truth | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:18:42 AM | Message Detail
Doubling?
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:18:42 AM | Message Detail
I think Tifa will break 60% tomorrow. How far beyond is anyone's guess.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:21:39 AM | Message Detail
I think Tifa will break 60% tomorrow. How far beyond is anyone's guess.

Squall got 60.21% on an (assumably) weaker Luigi, and Squall's a bit stronger than Tifa, so...56.5%.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:22:32 AM | Message Detail
Tifa wins with 56%, I still think Squall is the strongest FF character in the regular bracket.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:23:27 AM | Message Detail
Ehhh, I just don't see Tifa being weaker than Aeris or Squall. Luigi might've gone up since then, but I doubt it seriously hinders her from coming close to 60%.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:24:17 AM | Message Detail
I'm not makin' a call on this one. I haven't even decided where I think Luigi stands this year.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:25:57 AM | Message Detail
Where Luigi is, is a huge mystery to me, so I'm not gonna say anything...
From: voltch | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:30:18 AM | Message Detail
so KOS-MOS is getting weaker and weaker huh. she might get snubbed next year
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:31:06 AM | Message Detail
It's not a snub if you don't deserve to be here.
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From: Nai | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:32:17 AM | Message Detail
Tifa should be a little below Aeris, and Luigi should have increased a little... So I expect somewhat below 60%
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From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:33:07 AM | Message Detail
Luigi increase, Squall >= Tifa, Luigi with 46-47%. You all love looking at Vyse's number and proclaiming Tifa godess, but completely ignore the fact that Luigi nearly killed KOS-MOS as badly as Sonic would have. They both have about as much reason to drop (Vyse and KOS-MOS) and yet you all want to love Tifa, and have her win the universe, but are ineherantly biased against Luigi, just because he failed once, two years ago.

66% on Kos-Mos people! Luigi for the win.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:34:39 AM | Message Detail
I have nothing against Luigi. As a matter of fact, I'll be voting for him tomorrow. But I've always maintained that Tifa would be stronger than Aeris.
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From: voltch | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:36:21 AM | Message Detail
if luigi had done that on kos-mos in 2k3 how much more fuming would there have been if he didn't win against squall. cause his numbers in round 1 were pretty pathetic
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:38:17 AM | Message Detail
I think 66% against KOS-MOS in round 1 for Luigi in 2003 would've almost been a disappointment. Both were unknowns, and Luigi was touted to be an elite of sorts.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:52:08 AM | Message Detail
I'm fairly torn on how I will actually vote tomorrow, though I'm (and even I'm shocked at this) leaning towards Tifa. Over the years I've grown to like her more, and I don't feel the same for Luigi as when he entered this contest. He's still my first pick in games like Mairo Kart, but at this point even I wonder if it's just cause he's the green Mario.

Anywho, I'm expecting a 2% frop for Vyse, a 5% drop for KOS and the rest of the difference to be Luigi gaining... anyone who is not as tired as me want to tell me what I shoudl expect to see tomorrow?
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From: voltch | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:54:37 AM | Message Detail
tifa is the devil's daughter. look at her red eyes for proof
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From: transience | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:56:42 AM | Message Detail
heh, I school people with Luigi in kart, too. that's about Luigi's only usefulness, though.

I'll give Tifa 56-57%. I'm really looking forward to the match.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/1/2005 2:56:56 AM | Message Detail
Hmm, what I said almost makes the two equal, doesn't it? And if that were the case, Tifa FTW with 58%, ya? Well, we'll see. I'm not really up to number crunching right now.
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