Again, I declare HM's opinion invalid due to his huge bias for
FF7 and his favorite character, Cloud. The fact is, Cloud would have taken it if Advent Children had come out, but it didn't. Link is going to take care of business as usual, methinks.
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Vincent underperformed expectations of people who were putting him at a level that would give him a chance against Crono. I'm positive that Dante has increased from his 2004 value. Vincent shouldn't be that far off from my original projection before the contest.

That's certainly a change; it wasn't too long ago when "DMC3 hasn't sold enough to give Dante any sort of boost." He's performing around Zelda's 2k3 level right now, which is under expectations for a lot of people. If it makes you feel better, he did beat my expectations of ~28%.
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I haven't bothered to check all the possibilities, but I figure it's quite clear that Luigi isn't anywhere near as low as 2004 or 2003 suggest. Without even using the stats (last year or based on this year), I could very well see Tifa breaking 60% on Luigi.

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There has been only ONE match before this where TJF had an arguably important influence. The question is, despite Vyse being no Freeman, is he still fodderific enough to be a victim of TJF?
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"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

So can I, but my underestimation of Vincent was somewhat correct. I'm not overestimating Tifa.
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There has been only ONE match before this where TJF had an arguably important influence. The question is, despite Vyse being no Freeman, is he still fodderific enough to be a victim of TJF?

Meh, cult chars seems to be dropping like flies in this contest.

Just look at KOS-MOS, or Alucard.

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That's certainly a change; it wasn't too long ago when "DMC3 hasn't sold enough to give Dante any sort of boost."

That was before I read the wrong data for Devil May Cry 2, which sold under 500,000 and I thought it was near a million. Given that he had a game boost him up that sold so low, I could very well see DMC3 helping him out.

But then again, Xenosaga II came out and KOS-MOS got her ass kicked... hard. If I had to choose, though, I would say Dante boosted from whatever above his 2004 value, whether that is just going back to his 2003 value or beyond.

He's performing around Zelda's 2k3 level right now, which is under expectations for a lot of people.

I would assume this is based on Dante in 2004, correct? But I actually didn't know where this performanced placed him regardless -- I never bothered to check. Thanks though.

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I don't know why you are so excited about the (slim) possibility of Tifa overcoming Sonic and Mega Man, HM. You are going to vote Mega Man over Tifa, correct? Hell, who are we kidding, you are gonna jump on the "FF7 is teh pwn" bandwagon and vote Tifa over anybody.
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Alucard is more niche then cult, but you have a good point.
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I'll accept Link > Cloud so long as Sephiroth > Samus, Crono, Mario or whoever. I hope the Nintendo boost doesn't put any of those 3 over him (well Crono is nothing to worry about).
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Just look at KOS-MOS, or Alucard.

I wouldn't say Alucard actually dropped. More than anything, I would say Sora got a boost.

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Sullen and unrefined; only speaks to others when absolutely necessary. His fighting moves, while rough and unpolished, are executed with absolute precision.

Tifa has as good a shot at beating Megaman as does Yoshi.
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Specifically, Vincent based on 2k3 Dante is at 30.66% on BL. 2k4 Dante puts him at 29.69%. Personally, I'd guess Vincent is around 31%.
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I don't know why you are so excited about the (slim) possibility of Tifa overcoming Sonic and Mega Man, HM. You are going to vote Mega Man over Tifa, correct?

If Tifa beats Sonic, I'll vote for her throughout the rest of the contest. With Vincent performing like this, I'm just going to shift my support to Tifa. She appears to be far more capable of doing some damage based on Vincent's performance today.

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Mario is now near Sephiroth, I think (well, after Bowser got 40 on him, Mario must be within 3 or so percent) so it is obvious that Tifa is no threat to win the contest...but....it still makes me angry that this site is so FF7-biased that any character from it can do so well. (Note - Tifa and Vincent are two of my three favorite FF7 characters, but it still makes me sick)
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Personally, I hope Knuckles wins his division, not only because it would be one of the greatest things to happen in these contests, but we can accurately gauge the strengths of everyone in the Devil Division.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

not only because it would be one of the greatest things to happen in these contests

That would be Squall winning the division, though Knux winning would be a close second.
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Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

That would be Squall winning the division, though Knux winning would be a close second.

Squall winning his division would be a travesty equivalent to what he did to poor Luigi.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

Yes, it would be an equal level of travesty, as in, none at all.
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I have Cloud winning the Tournament of Champions because I was betting on Advent Children coming out in time. Although, I hope he can win for my bracket's* sake, I doubt he will.

Although, Cloud winning is not improbable and the win margin is nothing Cloud can't overcome, there's just not anything that seems to imply that he will.




*On a personal level, I'm rooting for Link. I voted for him in every match he's ever been in, and I won't stop now.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/30/2005 9:26:42 PM | Message Detail
Yes, it would be an equal level of travesty, as in, none at all.

Luigi deserves to break 60% on Squall.

Luigi > Squall. Give in to the truth!
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

The voters gave in to the truth on that fateful day in 2003 when Squall beat Luigi, and they'll do the same tomorrow.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

HaRRicH was kidding about the "poll not working" link.

For better or for worse, I was actually serious; I meant it in a light-hearted tone, mind you, but I actually thought it would help get his attention, heh. Afterall, we speculated that was the reason we got the cosplay Seph/Ganon pic...so maybe it does work. Maybe.


Ole' Leonhart, still spreadin' his lies; Knuckles winning the division is second to nothing.
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Nintendo being a beast so far and the AC delay don't mean an assured Link victory, but thinking Cloud won't have a much harder time is ludicrous. If he wins, well... more power to him, I guess.
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Ole' Leonhart, still spreadin' his lies; Knuckles winning the division is second to nothing.

Except for Squall winning anything, which tops everything.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Luigi deserves to break 60% on Squall.

Luigi > Squall. Give in to the truth!

In bizarro world, yes, that would be the truth.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/30/2005 9:29:51 PM | Message Detail
The voters gave in to the truth on that fateful day in 2003 when Squall beat Luigi, and they'll do the same tomorrow.

So Knuckles will beat Squall? Thanks!
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

Just out of curiosity (because of the boost nintendo apparently has gotten) what have polls in the past (like a year ago and further back) that ask if people have a GCN/Xbox/PS2 gotten under the percentage who own a gamecube? I'm wondering because I know a recent set of polls showed about 40% have a gamecube, which was the same result the ps2 got. I'm wondering, because maybe the site's viewers has become slightly more nintendo oriented.
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No, it goes more like Squall > Luigi > Knuckles

If it worked out percentage-wise, I'd be thrilled, but I don't expect it...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
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lol mo' like Knuckles >>> Luigi > Squall
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

40%? Are you on crack? PS2's been stagnating at 75% for years, with the Gamecube slowly chipping away at the lead - it was well over 70% last time.
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Are you talking about pre or post luigi's mansion? Luigi has gone from cool to being a complete pansy in recent years.
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Actually, Squall has beaten my favorite characters in order with rising percentages. He'd have to get less than 55% on Tidus to work that out properly, but that wouldn't happen. Of course, he'd need to break 60% on Knuckles tomorrow to even maintain the trend anyhow.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
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Hey, I like Luigi and all, but Knuckles owns him. Knuckles > Luigi...I have no opinion on Squall yet, sadly enough, so I can't go educated-fanboy here.
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Nintendo is doing better overall in this contest. That combined with the TP hype pretty much guarantees that Link will be stronger this year, while we have no reason to believe that Cloud has gotten any stronger. Especially with Vincent bombing. Also, if I was a Square fan (and I'm not) I'd be voting for Mario over Samus, because Samus stands the best chance out of anyone of upsetting Sephiroth. If Nintendo really is that strong, the ToC finals should be Link vs Samus.

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Can't think of a good sig.

I mean pre-Luigi's Mansion.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

Indeed. Knuckles > Luigi. Both are pansies, but at least Knuckles is a badassed pansy.

On another subject, how much punishment do you think Squall will give Knux with the night vote?
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Squall with 60%+ during the night, yo.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Actually, Squall has beaten my favorite characters in order with rising percentages.

...And lost in order with decreasing %.

*runs*
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After the first few seconds, I'll say Squall will quickly bring it up to around 58% and stick around there until morning.
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Knuckles >> Luigi > Squall. Squall is okay... I really liked him during the first disk of FFVIII and in Kingdom Hearts. But he's got nothing on Luigi and DEFINITELY hasn't got anything on Knux. Just LOOK at that match pic!
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Not impossible. Snake held Knux under 30% in the past with the night vote before, and I'd expect another big shift tomorrow. It's Squall he's facing, not Yoshi or anything.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/30/2005 9:35:39 PM | Message Detail
Squall with 60%+ during the night, yo.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

Knuckles - 51%
Squall - 49%
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

It's more realistic than expecting Knuckles to lead during his absolute worst time.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Therealmnm has a point; just LOOK at the pic.

LOOK, damn you.



Advantage: Knuckles.
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*looks*

Squall is a dream boat.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Knuckles looks so badass in that pic.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/54 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Squall Leonhart

Did I ever say anything about Knuckles ever taking the lead, at least outside of the board vote? I can't tell who the board will vote for, but from there Squall will jump ahead and never look back.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

*looks*

Squall is the Titantic...fate-wise.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
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Did I ever say anything about Knuckles ever taking the lead, at least outside of the board vote?

If you'll look closely, you can see I wasn't replying to you.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna