Who's calling Kirby an elite? And even if he was, he's appeared in enough other games so that it wouldn't matter. He only needs a slight boost.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

Well, that doesn't sound *too* bad. I wouldn't be surprised if Kirby increased a bit, especially with the Nintendo increasing theory floating around.

I'm also a *tiny* bit skeptical of Squall's strength, as I'm not sure how a bigger voting pool will favor him now that he's not beefed up by Kingdom Hearts. But he should still win comfortably, though.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Well, directly post-KH, anyway.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised to to see Knux ahead of Squall tomorrow, but I still think Squall is the clear favorite, and more or less has it in the bag. I think the only thing making me think it could happen is how much I want Knux > Squall, Knux > Vincent to happen. It would be hilarious.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

wasn't magus the favorite in his match also against knuckles?
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41/whatever next winner=DK!!! OMG KNUX IS A GOD.
WE DO REALLY WANT BRET

The heavy favorite. But there were signs of Magus being overrated. Nothing like that with Squall.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Yes, he was. However, he was also clearly overrated and signs for that were seen. However, the majority of the Magus supporters disregarded it just because.

No such signs for Squall are visible.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

What were the signs for Magus being overrated?
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb

:( still wish that Knuckles>Squall
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41/whatever next winner=DK!!! OMG KNUX IS A GOD.
WE DO REALLY WANT BRET

Sam Fisher and Luca Blight point to Magus being overrated.
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

It looks like Dante may be slowing Vincent down with the afterschool vote...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Tidus vs Mega Man too pointed to Magus being overrated too.

Although Tidus vs Shadow and most of Ganondorf's matches pointed to Magus's value being accurate.
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I need to put something here.

Knux > Squall.

I'll wait for Moltar to post the Analysis' to show you why.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

Vincent is flopping in this match. After beating Kerrigan so badly, I expected a little above 60.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!

He might not even reach 55%. It's plausible he could drop below 53% by the end of this match. Very unimpressive.

Told you so. :P

Well, several people pegged this match right, too.

And I don't think people are completely ignoring Canvas Curse, yet for some reason people seemed to be quite averse for SM64:DS giving Mario a boost (or at least it was never mentioned) but a ds game giving Kirby all of that boost? How big was the boost exactly? I think it's not an illegitmate claim to think that perhaps Squall is underrated rather than overrated.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb

Well...all I know is that Vincent/Squall will now depend on who the SFF goes too. And in any case, could be a close match.
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

Should be another fun match tomorrow. I predict similar percentages to today, regardless of who wins.
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For every vote Vincent gets, Jack Thompson sues the video game industry.
ELIMINATED/125 in the Guru Standings.

Told you so.

You might want to get in line on that one.


Anyway, I'm rather surprised that it's this close. I expected Vincent to do far better than this at the worst. I suppose he's nowhere near as strong as I had expected after Kerrigan's performance, but him being closer to Magus's 2004 value shouldn't be out of the question if Dante has increased a pretty good amount from Devil May Cry 3 and whatever else. But Vincent should still take this division.

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His fighting style, using a pool cue and ball as its main components, makes use of multiple objects not normally treated as weapons.

Not if Squall has anything to say about it. ;)

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

Looks like the after school vote is going Dante's way. Squall's got this division.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

Yeah, I thought that Vincent would take away all the appeal that Dante draws in a direct matchup between the two. But Dante is holding his own. This is another one of those instances where I don't even try using stats to verify the matchup. Much like I saw in Luigi/KOSMOS, Alucard/Sora, and Bowser/Ryu, I thought there was an intrinsic factor for Vincent that made me think he'd have this matchup with ease.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Squall can yammer all he wants, Vincent's still takin' the division. =p

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His fighting style, using a pool cue and ball as its main components, makes use of multiple objects not normally treated as weapons.

And how can you not absolutely love the Yoshi/Pacman picture? It just makes me smile each time I look at it. He managed to make Pacman cute.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb

I was in an absolutely ROTTEN mood last night, and then I took one look at that Yoshi/Pac-Man picture and I couldn't believe how much it helped. I've got that saved for later cheering up when I need it. <.<
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Two things:

1) XD at only 61% of brackets getting Crono > Vercetti correct. I know, a lot of Vercetti fans put him over anyone, but hey, 61%? ouch.

2) Vincent is doing...not so well. My prediction was at almost 60%, so I'm getting smashed today. However, I think, (at least in my mind) that Dante got a nice boost from DMC3, so Vincent should at least give Squall the run of his life for the division, or maybe Knuckles <__<
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

We still can't deny that there is obviously a large overlap of fans for FF7 and FF8. No matter what this match may say, Squall/Vincent still would be up in the air...

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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Squall can yammer all he wants, Vincent's still takin' the division. =p

I say hah! Squall for the win, no matter how he does against Knuckles as long as he beats him. :P

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

I think it's funny how many commentators were actually quite close to today's percentage. So they were merely watching silently before owning us.
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For every vote Vincent gets, Jack Thompson sues the video game industry.
ELIMINATED/125 in the Guru Standings.

Knuckles > Squall.

I'm guessing Knux benefited from the Nintendo increase, considering how nearly every Sonic game in existance has been ported to the Cube.
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Vote for Kirby in SC2K5!

Whoever does better against Dante/Knux will be the favorite to take the division IMO.

At this rate Vincent might drop below 53%, I'm just loving it.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Present for everyone.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
World Champion: Gyruss, Link's Awakening, Mega Man X, Solstice, Super Mario World, Zombies Ate My Neighbors

There should actually be a fair amount of breathing room between the two. Unless Knux has gone up or dante has somehow gone down then Dante is the more formidable opponent.

Oh, and Slow, you of all people should watch what you say about another person's favorite character. Vincent Sucks? Really? Beating Dante by a fair margin and potenially looking up to the task of beating Auron is sucking? I'm just not seeing it.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.

Vincent doing this pourly makes me cry, but also makes my inner FFVIII fanboy jump for joy since Squall has a good chance of making it all the way to the Elite 8.
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Kurotsuchi Mayuri fan

Oh man, Vincent is still failing it up in the poll. And to think that the people said Vlado's prediction of 65% was the only "correct" one. lolz

61.09%

WHAT THE HELL?! Dayum. That many had Kefka/Vercetti/Zidane winning this four-pack? Pitiful Crono percentage.



http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b43.jpg

Good pic here. I like Dante's and Vincent's is alright.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b44.jpg

Knuckles >>>>>>>> all. Squall, that is. Squall's is decent though, but Knuckles looks godly.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b45.jpg

Eww @ Diablo. That pic might scare him away some voters. Sonic is decent.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b46.jpg

Does Ceej purposely find Luigi pictures were he has some kind of weird expression? Then again, I'd probably make that face if Tifa was next to me. >.>

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b47.jpg

Mega Man in 7 year old Halloween costume mode. And Leon just looks bad.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b48.jpg

So vibrant. I like both pics.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Dante vs. Vincent - Bracket: Vincent - Vote: Vincent (46/52)

People keep trying to make this correlation for an all-Nintendo increase here. As I keep stressing, this idea is being based on circumstantial evidence. There is nothing solid to indicate such. I think you're all trying to draw a correlation from something that appears to be there but may not necessarily be. We have evidence that suggests that there IS NOT an all-Nintendo boost. Ganondorf and Bowser CAN go up on their own merit without bringing the rest of Nintendo up with them.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Old-School characters FTW!

Btw, HM, what you think about the Sonic/Tifa match now?
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

This match is a little behind Crono/Vercetti right now, so it might have to push for 100k here.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

At least it's safe to say that Sonic WILL beat Tifa. I doubt she's stronger than Vincent, and Sonic beat Dante with 62%.
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Summer Contest Score: 47/52
Today's Pick: Vincent

"And to think that the people said Vlado's prediction of 65% was the only "correct" one. lolz"

Actually, I don't remmeber anyone but me commenting on it and I called it the most respectable one (but still thought it was too high). Expected at least one of you to say something in the low 60s. I still stand by it though, I have no respect for all those 55s. Doesn't matter if they are right, some of those people were talking up Vincent as much as I was and they still didn't put down the numbers to back it, for shame.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.

No, we just thought people were over-estimating Vincent and Tifa over one match against fodder.

We made the right choice.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

"At least it's safe to say that Sonic WILL beat Tifa. I doubt she's stronger than Vincent, and Sonic beat Dante with 62%."

Would you say the same thing if it was Aeris today and Sephiroth in Tifa's spot? What's that you say, "no"? is that perhaps because each character has their own strength? As much as I hate to say it, it looks like Ulti was right all along when he said Tifa>Aeris>Vincent, and you'd have to be a total noob to thing there is yet evidence to the contrary or any way of saying Tifa=Vincent at this point.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.

No, we just thought people were over-estimating Vincent and Tifa over one match against fodder.

Correct.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Dante vs. Vincent - Bracket: Vincent - Vote: Vincent (46/52)

I never realized before how similar Squall and Yuna's hair is. When I first saw Knuckles Vs. Squall all I saw was the hair and for a split second, I was like "Yuna?!!"
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"I don't like it when people I don't like get what they want."--Janelle

If Tifa is stronger than Vincent, then it's probably nothing significant. She'd have to be a lot stronger to take down Sonic.
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Summer Contest Score: 47/52
Today's Pick: Vincent

"No, we just thought people were over-estimating Vincent and Tifa over one match against fodder.

We made the right choice."

If you wouldn't have said Tifa I'd agree. Fact is, though, that Tifa went up agaisnt a known entity that I doubt would drop below 17% or so and that still makes her increadibly strong. Then again, some of you were so wrapped up in your own hype/hate that you're failing to recognize that Vincent is still performing on near elite levels, so why should I bother.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.

Hmm, Vincent isn't doing quite as well as I was expecting, but still a decisve won nonetheless. This makes me quite happy, since I have Squall over Vincent, and after Vincent demolished Kerrigan and Squall did as expected against Geno, that pick wasn't looking very good.

In any case, this bolsters my theory of how Vincent is a hit-or-miss character - fans of FFVII either love him or don't care for him. I happen to be in the latter group. A character such as Cloud, Sephiroth, Aeris, or Tifa can carry lots of support from the FFVII population because of their great prominences in the game and its story, whereas if you don't get Vincent, or you get him and don't use him very much, you probably won't care for him at all. If you use him a lot in battle, you might end up loving up. Those that love him will vote for him over most characters, but those that are indifferent will vote for him over fodder and characters they've never heard of, e.g. Kerrigan, but will not vote for him against stronger opponents such as Dante and Squall. The end result: overperformance against fodder, underperformance against mid-carders and elites.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Btw, HM, what you think about the Sonic/Tifa match now?

I don't know why someone would have thought that Tifa depended on Vincent doing well to stand a chance against Sonic. Unless Tifa disappoints against Luigi -- and I will be beyond sad should that happen -- then I think she'll still, at the least, give Sonic a great match.

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His fighting style, using a pool cue and ball as its main components, makes use of multiple objects not normally treated as weapons.

No, we just thought people were over-estimating Vincent and Tifa over one match against fodder.

Wait, show me where we have been wrong about Tifa again?

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His fighting style, using a pool cue and ball as its main components, makes use of multiple objects not normally treated as weapons.

"I don't know why someone would have thought that Tifa depended on Vincent doing well to stand a chance against Sonic."

I would tell you, but the only words I could summon would get me moderated.
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No balls to be bustin', no fightin', no cussin'... just a love for a drug called contest statin'.