I think we're in the agreeance (is that a word?) that no matter what we say now nobody is going to change their opinion.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

The sad thing is that few will realize their mistake later on either.

Vincent vs. Kerrigan showed us that.
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I'm just waiting 6-7 hours.
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True, cn, but their numbers will be culled. It will be satisfying to not be outnumbered on a subject that shouldn't be so heavily questioned. Questioned, yes, but not to this degree.
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I've already said I'll become a believer of Vincent's strength if he impresses tomorrow.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/52 points
Current Match Prediction: Dante vs. Vincent Valentine

My time at GameFAQs is officially riding on Luigi vs Tifa.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=23209351
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Here's a match picture I just made for Dante/Vincent:

http://users.triconet.org/rskovan/dante_vincent.jpg

What do you guys think?

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The best possible scenario for Dante/Vincent pic:

http://users.triconet.org/rskovan/dante_vincent.jpg

Courtesy of LuniNuts

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Cheer Up Emo Kids.

Haha.

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Lens flare = instant win, in my book. Dante looks good, and I think that's the picture he'll end up getting. Vincent looks bad, but I'm generally hard pressed to say nice things about Vincent. Maybe his supporters like it.
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Lens flare isn't always good... but it looks awesome right there. Vincent looks distorted, and I love it.

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I dislike Vincent in that picture, so it's no t surprising that someone who wants to see him fail would call it the best case scenario. Dante looks fine, if unspectacular.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/29/2005 7:58:28 PM | Message Detail
My time at GameFAQs is officially riding on Luigi vs Tifa.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=23209351

What he said. Good luck sir.

Go Dante!

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Yeah, best case scenario for me, I should have specified that, Dante looks awesome, and that's probably the worst pic of Vincent I've ever seen.

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lol... It's funny that Vincent is one of my favorite characters, but yet I pick a poor picture of him. Let me see if I can put one together that is a little better...

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Oh, and there is no lens flare in the picture. Just weird lighting.

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Since it used ot be a sort of goal for us to pass a certain topic in terms of number of parts, and we did so quite some time ago, I was wondering: By how much have we surpassed them?
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My time at GameFAQs is officially riding on Luigi vs Tifa.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=23209351

MM, why are you so eager to leave GameFAQs?

Even Inviso who hated the current Nintendrone rush isn't eager to leave...

Or is it because of one of the new mods?

But, damn, if I knew someone as new as crystalmoon can become a mod, I would've applied as well...

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MM, why are you so eager to leave GameFAQs?

Even Inviso who hated the current Nintendrone rush isn't eager to leave...

Or is it because of one of the new mods?

But, damn, if I knew someone as new as crystalmoon can become a mod, I would've applied as well...

I'm not eager to leave.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/29/2005 9:19:04 PM
Since it used ot be a sort of goal for us to pass a certain topic in terms of number of parts, and we did so quite some time ago, I was wondering: By how much have we surpassed them?


If it was Home Run Contest, I believe they are on 109 right now.

Speak not that vile name!

Oh, and more than doubled... wowza. I thought they were much further along than that.
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Devil Division Round 2 - Match 43 – (1)Dante vs. (4)Vincent

Dante - His biggest enemy = Bad camera angles
Round 1 – vs. Terra (Dante: 71.50% - Terra: 28.50%)

Dante shows us that FF6 characters, even heroes…are pretty darn weak.

Vincent - His biggest enemy = Happiness and bright colors
Round 1 – vs. Kerrigan (Vincent: 79.00% - Kerrigan: 21.00%)

Vincent crushes many SC fanboys hopes and dreams by destroying Kerrigan.

Another highly debated Round 2 matches. The BOP slightly favors Vincent on this one, but it’s anybody’s game. Let’s take an in-depth look at this one.

Before both these Round 1 matches happened, people figured that they would be somewhat close. Instead, they turned out to be massive blowouts. First it was Dante’s turn. Some people thought Terra had a chance here, while many expected Dante to win with about 60-65%. Instead, he goes a step further and beats the FF6 heroine with 71.5% of the vote. People were impressed, and Dante over Vincent/Kerrigan was being booked many times. That all stopped though when Vincent stepped up to the plate. Vincent predictions were all over the place, and a nice group of people though Kerrigan would pull the upset. No one, however, expected Vincent to get even a tripling, much less a near-quadding. The Dante fans watched in awe as the Vincent hopefuls booked him over Dante many-a-times.

So now we finally reach the match. Both looked very impressive in Round 1, but from where I stand, Vincent was the more impressive one on this day. I mean, if Kerrigan was around Gordon Freeman level in the stats; that puts Vincent right around an Un-Adjusted Mega Man in the 2004 stats. That is damn impressive. Dante fans are going to have to hope Terra was stronger than she looked and that Dante boosted. I do find it hard to believe Terra would lose to JC Denton and Earthworm Jim, so the possibility of Dante getting a boost from DMC3 is likely.

This should be a good match, and it’s pretty much up-in-the-air to call beforehand. I’d call Vincent the slight favorite going in. Kerrigan is going to have to turn out god-awful weak for Dante to have a chance, and I don’t see that happening.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Vincent will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Dante: 43% - Vincent: 57%



Ulti’s Analysis

(Special note from Ulti: I'm either getting married or on my honeymoon as you're reading this, so know that all of my second round writeups will suck. I'm doing the same short writeups that I did for the last round, because I don't have time to be extensive.)

(Special note from Moltar: Ulti is back!)

*rewinds first round tapes*

If Dante wins this, I'll give Lopen my sig for a week. That's how sure I am that he has no chance in hell.

Prediction: Vincent with 55.01%



Outback’s Analysis

Despite the fact that Kerrigan would likely be MUCH stronger with a better picture (a la CATS), Vincent's performance was still extremely impressive. However, Dante's performance against Terra was also very strong. I have no doubt that this match will NOT be a blowout by any means, but from the looks of it, Vincent should be able to advance.

Vincent with 55.00%

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Soul’s Analysis

How they got here

Danta defeated Terra: 71.5% - 28.5%
Vincent defeated Kerrigan: 79% - 21%

Well, looks like that Crono/Vercetti match was just a little breather before even more big matches! Dante/Vincent is one of the most hyped round 2 match. Not because it's going to be a toss up. The winner is pretty obvious as of right now. But we're waiting to see if he has what it takes to win the division against the winner of Knux/Squall.

Well, let's get this thing going. In 2002, Dante performed well. He got 70% on Q-Bert before getting 33% on Crono. Vincent, well, didn't participate back then.

In 2003, again, Dante performed well. He got 77% on Ryo Hazuki before losing respectably to Ryu, with 45% of the vote. Vincent, well, didn't participate back then.

In 2004, Dante finally made his sweet sixteen debut by scoring a blow-out against Ratchet (80%) and defeated Tails with 57%. He finished with 37% on Sonic the Hedgehog. Vincent... I think you know where I'm going with this.

Now, of course, we've seen what both of these characters could do in round 1 of this years contest. Dante, riding high on a boost from DMC3 most likely, made Terra as bad as Q-Bert. And to think, people on Board 8 actually suspected that this match could go either way. Vincent, on the other hand, completely owned everyone. A match that was supposed to go 50/50, turned out to be a huge blow-out for Mr. Valentine. 79% on a blizzard character is tough to do, but Vincent managed to do it. Of course, this made people believe that Vincent has this contest won just because of this match. I'll try not to name any names...

Almost everyone believes that Dante is a stepping stone for Vincent. It's now not whether or not Vincent is going to win; it's how much Vincent is going to win by. Of course, people are saying all types of things like "No way is Vincent getting lower then 70%" or "Dante is winning with 65%+". I can not believe that any of those incomes are going to happen.

I believe that Vincent is going to win. I would have chosen Kerrigan over Terra easily, and so would other people I assume. But, since I'm going to need a point pretty soon, I'm going to stick with a relatively safe pick.

My prediction: Vincent wins with 55.50% of the vote. My favorite match is coming up next. Woo!



Inviso’s Analysis

Dante versus Vincent is a match that has been proclaimed to be a toss up for a great while now. Both characters performed strong in their respective first round matches, higher than many people expected for either. Dante broke 70% on Terra Branford, the lead character of Final Fantasy VI, while Vincent quadrupled Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft. We all expected close matches, and yet there were two blowouts in the Devil Division. But still, one seeds should be pulling blowouts like Vincent did…not like Dante did. Dante has just proven that, like Kirby and Master Chief, he definitely did not deserve his seeding. Vincent will win this match, and I think he stands a good chance at doubling Dante.

My Bracket: Sarah Kerrigan
My Vote: Vincent Valentine
My Prediction: Vincent Valentine with 67.51%



Tnote’s Analysis

Jesus, both combatants participated in bloodbaths. Terra beats Kerrigan easily, however Vincent almost freakin’ quadrupled Kerrigan. This one will be closer than most think, simply because Kerrigan is crap, and not many are willing to admit that. Vincent should be able to run the table to Crono, but it depends on whether or not Squall wins, and if he gets SFFed by those who feel any FF hero>sidekick. But for the time being, Dante should be grateful he got to be a first round star by plastering the extremely overhyped chick.

Pick: Vincent with 54.83%

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Vlado’s Analysis

So, many think that Dante will give Vincent a hard battle and what not... Well, other than the possible bracket votes, given Dante's seed, I simply can't see another thing that would give him any chance here. Let's get serious, Vincent is one of the best liked Final Fantasy VII characters. Even the sheer fact he's from FFVII guarantees him the win, but he's also a fan favourite, which will make this even worse for Dante. I think the best he can do is avoid a doubling.

Tough luck for Dante, really. He owned Terra really badly, but this will be the end of the road for him. We see characters weaker than him make the next round, but he had to go against Vincent, one of the favourites to win the whole tournament. In my opinion, just 4 characters can win now - Mario, Crono, Vincent and Tifa. One of them will certainly win. Mario is the huge, proven favourite, Vincent and Tifa can join him if they kick enough ass in their matches to prove that it's not just Nintendo that has been on the rise. Crono... Well, he hasn't proven anything yet, due to not having faced an opponent that doesn't suck yet. But I think that if he and Mario meet again, he'll have a much harder time than last year and he'll likely lose.

But anyway, this is about Vincent. Sure, he can't compare to Cloud or Sephiroth, but I'm pretty sure he'll be a good deal stronger than Aeris was, as will Tifa. It's very likely that we see Vince and Tifa face off against each other in the semis, and that would be a very interesting battle. I think the winner there could go on and take the tournament.

Predicted percentage: Vincent Valentine with 64.54%.

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I'm not eager to leave.

Come on now, it's ****ing Luigi, the one who rolled over and die to Squall and jobbed without a fight to Yoshi.

How could he possibly touch Tifa, who has just put up Seph like numbers?

Hell, even if you ignore the X-stats and past results, you can't honestly think Mario's wimpy shadow could beat FF VII's lead female.

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I like Vlado's prediction best there again, too, heh. I was hopin' to see a 61%-er though.

Anyways, damn you Master Mage, RPGuy, Tnote, and everyone else account-betting (this goes to Slow and anyone else who ever has before, too); STOP. I like ya'll, and this guarantees somebody's gotta go...I don't like seein' you guys bein' on the line...

...besides, Master Mage will owe me his sig after Luigi/Tifa; this is obviously a cop-out. =P Seriously though, there's no sense in it.
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Man, I had to wait until the last analysis to see a respectable guess at the %
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...besides, Master Mage will owe me his sig after Luigi/Tifa; this is obviously a cop-out. =P Seriously though, there's no sense in it.

XD!!
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It's fine for Slow, since he never makes a bet he won't win.
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Forgot to post.

Lower Dream Division:

Bowser: 50.00%
Ryu: 41.02%
Rikku: 36.33%
Chun Li: 34.10%

Upper Flood Division:

Master Chief: 50.00%
Donkey Kong: 49.21%
Sam Fisher: 34.68%
CATS: 31.17%
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Today's Pick: Crono

From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/29/2005 8:37:07 PM | Message Detail
It's fine for Slow, since he never makes a bet he won't win.

Hey, neither do I.

<checks sig>

**** you Tar Heels.

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What's with all these account bets these days, I won't bet mine even on a Link vs. Tanner match.

It took me more than 3 years to "raise" this account, I'm NOT going to put it on the line for a mere popularity contest.

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Man, I had to wait until the last analysis to see a respectable guess at the %

You missed Inviso's... This is actually the first time I agree with Vlado...
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In my opinion, just 4 characters can win now - Mario, Crono, Vincent and Tifa.

heh, first Auron, now Vincent/Tifa. I love Vlado. I wouldn't really object to this statement if he had included Samus.
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As much as I'd love to see a doubling I tend to pick conservatively, so I'm saying just short at 65%. Yes, I like Inviso's % and would be greatly pleased to see it, but I'm not going to convince myself he'll do that well unless I see it happening.
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Correction... the first time I agree with Vlado's PERCENTAGE! I didn't even read his analysis...
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I like those predictions having Vincent getting around 55% on Dante. That means Squall can still beat him next round.
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Rikku: 36.33%
Chun Li: 34.10%

*insert negative comment here*
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Give it up man, Squall's chances of winning are only ever so slightly higher than Dante's. I wouldn't take Squall over Aeris so I'm damn well sure I wouldn't take him over Vincent.
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Heh, Chun-Li ended up closer to Rikku than I thought she would.
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Give it up man, Squall's chances of winning are only ever so slightly higher than Dante's.

Oh, his chances are much more than just "slightly" better than Dante's. He'd be expected to get about 55% on Dante himself, and that's not even considering the fact that he's been behind potential SFF for the last two years.
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And everyone's so caught up in arguing Vincent/Dante that no one has even commented that Crono is losing ground with the night vote.
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I like those predictions having Vincent getting around 55% on Dante. That means Squall can still beat him next round.

You forgot that all your Square votes are belong to FF VII.

Btw, I think Vincent will land somewhere between Moltar's and Vlado's predictions.

Expecting 60%+ on post DMC3 Dante is a bit too high, IMO.

As that would put Vincent in a position to actually threaten Crono.

Something I find very unlikely, at least with the amount of info available to me right now.

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You forgot that all your Square votes are belong to FF VII.

Yeah, we'll see about that.
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Won't matter. Vincent will crack 60% and there won't be a need to discuss which way the SFF goes.
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I can't see anyway that Squall could SFF Vincent. I'd pick the top 5 FF7 characters(Cloud, Sephiroth, Aeris, Vincent, Tifa) to be able to SFF him on principal alone.

And everyone's so caught up in arguing Vincent/Dante that no one has even commented that Crono is losing ground with the night vote.

That's no biggie, it's not CT's strongest time of the poll yet.

And GTA, being a "mature" game, should be relatively strong with the night vote as well.

As long as he ends up with at least 71% at the end of the day, I can safely say that he has lived up to my expectations.

I'm more anxious about Vincent vs. Dante atm.

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I don't think there will be any noticeable SFF at all in Squall/Vincent, and I definitely don't think Aeris would SFF him. She may be from FFVII, but she's not that well beloved that she would pound Squall into the ground.
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