Introduce a bat to his face.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP

Knuckles>Squall
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

The obligatory "zOMGYSOEARLY" post.

zOMGYSOEARLY!

Squall > Knuckles.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

O RLY?

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

Go go Crono! Way to increase with the day vote en route to the tournament title!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 47/52 (Kefka, Magus, Ocelot, Tidus)

YA RLY.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

Ha ha I was 30 seconds faster :D
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg

Ha ha I was 30 seconds faster :D

Yeah, but....

*zOMG the People's Elbow*

If ya smelllllllllll what the Rock is Cookin'!

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

Angsty Echidnas >>>> Angsty Teens


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Angsty Echidnas >>>> Angsty Teens - Now you know who to vote for.
08/26/05 - Tidus got Kirby'd: http://yougotkirbyd.ytmnd.com

Knuckles > Squall

Me > Hurricane Katrina
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Dante > Vincent
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/52 points
Current Match Prediction: Dante vs. Vincent Valentine

How many topics will we go through tomorrow?
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For every vote Vincent gets, Jack Thompson sues the video game industry.
4th/125 in the Guru Standings.

Nice 500 post, btw.

Good night.
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For every vote Vincent gets, Jack Thompson sues the video game industry.
4th/125 in the Guru Standings.

Best 500 post ever.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

Go Dante!
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

Finally, I got a 500 post.

And *ahem*

Go Dante!
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/52 points
Current Match Prediction: Dante vs. Vincent Valentine

I think an 81% win should be taken seriously, you should defiantly consider the possibility.

It was 79%, not that it's a big difference, and once again, it was against a completly unproven character. Remember a match with Solid Snake and Tanner? Yeah, 94.30% that didn't make him win the contest or come close to doing so.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

Draco = ertyu

And everything he said will be wrong.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

If Vincent gets to Tifa, he's losing...IMO.
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

Not only that, but his performance will be so awesome that they'll put up an additional PotD every single day in his honor, asking how much he kicks ass.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

Curse not paying attention to what I'm writing. I'll try again...

Vincent will definitely going to destroy Dante, and Samus/Mario are going down too. Not only that he will win the ToC, too.
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

I think saying that Vincent has to be strong because he hit 79% is a bad assumption. The Legend of Zelda holds the all time percentage record, then Snake, then Mega Man (twice), before we hit Link. We've seen Final Fantasy, LoZ (twice), Ganondorf, SM64, Super Metroid, Bowser, SMW, Magus, GoldenEye, Ryu, Sonic 2, Knuckles, Dante, and Liquid Snake all do better than Vincent did percentagewise, and that's not counting the Noble Nine (chars) or the Elite Eight (games). That's a big list, and quite a few of the characters/games are average midcarders, nothing more.

Total votes, which are meaningless but I'll point this out anyway, we've got LoZ breaking 90k, Final Fantasy, SMW, and nearly Sonic 2 doing better than Vincent did. Again, they're respectable, but they aren't really powerhouses, particularly Sonic 2.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

n00b's sig reminds me why I've never been impressed with Cruise, by the way.

I still take Tifa over Vincent, but I wanna ask this: would anybody take Dante over Tifa right now?
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

"Oh, you're so awesome. You told someone that wasn't even arguing with you to take his ball and go home. I bow to your clear superiority. And by superiority I mean pettiness."

The only thing that statement could be in regards to is the comment about midcarders and blowouts, a comment I made... and only a person of childlike intelligence is going to read your response and thing anything other than "Wow, way to prove how petty you are, hypocrite". Really, if you're going to be the "bigger man", whihc you're obviously not, the idea is to not make sarcastic (or perhaps any) comments as a lead in to "OMG, yur teh peety!!!!"

"I'm not saying vincent isn't incredibly strong, but sales mean next to nothing. The driver series has also sold millions (I believe) keep in mind, and that series, unlike starcraft, revolves around the single player."

The argument at hand is comparing Monkey Island to Starcraft and that it can't be done, not that sales mean anything about strength. You cannot directly compare a cult game to a mainstream game, that's a fact, and that's the point of my argument. Really, when all of you want to be on the same page instead of arguing about something I'm not even trying to say by all means let me know.

"Calm it down there, my point was that when using that example, even if Seph got 0 nominations, yes I know it's impossible, but for arguements sake, Ceej would have given him the 1 seed."

No he wouldn't, he has always expressed that nominations directly effect seeding. If Seph got 0 noms he'd have gone "Well, guess it's not a problem any more" and gone on like nothing happened.
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!

It was 79%, not that it's a big difference, and once again, it was against a completly unproven character. Remember a match with Solid Snake and Tanner? Yeah, 94.30% that didn't make him win the contest or come close to doing so.

I hope you're not going to equate Kerrigan with the likes of Tanner...

I mean, even if you don't buy Vincent's performance against Kerrigan, then look at Tifa.

Vincent shouldn't be too far below her to the point of not being able to break 40% on Crono.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

I'd take Tifa over Sonic and MegaMan, of course I'd take her over Dante. >_>
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

The only thing that statement could be in regards to is the comment about midcarders and blowouts, a comment I made

Sure was. You were ambiguous in who you were referencing so I said it was Knuckles. Then you tried to act all better than me in your next post because of that and you're still doing it.

I do appreciate being talked down to when all I did is clarify something. Please do it to me more often.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

"The Legend of Zelda holds the all time percentage record, then Snake, then Mega Man (twice), before we hit Link. We've seen Final Fantasy, LoZ (twice), Ganondorf, SM64, Super Metroid, Bowser, SMW, Magus, GoldenEye, Ryu, Sonic 2, Knuckles, Dante, and Liquid Snake all do better than Vincent did percentagewise"

You've yet to convince me that he isn't of some strength, then. Excepting liquid those are all high-midcarders or better. Where's your argument against it, then?
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!

From: sidharta | Posted: 8/29/2005 7:34:09 PM | Message Detail
It was 79%, not that it's a big difference, and once again, it was against a completly unproven character. Remember a match with Solid Snake and Tanner? Yeah, 94.30% that didn't make him win the contest or come close to doing so.

I hope you're not going to equate Kerrigan with the likes of Tanner...

I mean, even if you don't buy Vincent's performance against Kerrigan, then look at Tifa.

Ugh... no that wasn't my point at all. My point was when that happened everyone went "ZOMG SNAKE IS GONNA WIN, LOZL!!!!!!!" and that percentage against an unknown is worth absolutely nothing. Oh and I saw Tifa, I expect her to do well, and I expect her to be a good deal stronger than Vincent as well.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

*Excepting Liquid and Sonic 2 (which may have suffered some sort of SFF).
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!

Vincent can beat Dante if Luigi gives Tifa a good match.

Hmm, in random news, vote totals should be pretty good for Tifa/Luigi. I have a feeling he isn't going to get crushed.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb

I'll post my prediction for tomorrow in here, too:

Vincent with 63% at least. Book it.

I predicted that he'd get at least a tripling last round. Seems I was the only one.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

You've yet to convince me that he isn't of some strength, then. Excepting liquid those are all high-midcarders or better. Where's your argument against it, then?

When did I say he wasn't of some strength? I'd personally expect him to be around 31-33% on BL, which is pretty good. Enough to beat Dante, I would think. Quite a few of those characters are under that, and most of the games are, as far as I can judge.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

Oh, and if there's any justice for FF6, Vincent will do worse than Terra. Yup.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb

"Sure was. You were ambiguous in who you were referencing so I said it was Knuckles. Then you tried to act all better than me in your next post because of that and you're still doing it.

I do appreciate being talked down to when all I did is clarify something. Please do it to me more often."

Your statement was no less ambiguous, then, as it looked to me like you were trying tot make a point that those exceptions disproved the rule. My appologies for my harsh reaction and misunderstanding.
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!

Who said Vincent isn't going to be a high-midcarder? As far as I'm concerned, a standard midcarder is his ABSOLUTE FLOOR, and he's likely going to take the status of elite after what he did. Same with Tifa, though I think we're going to be brought a bit back down to earth after their matches with Dante and Tifa.

Seriously, though, why does it matter? I mean, the match isn't that far away...could we just wait and see?
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

When did I say he wasn't of some strength? I'd personally expect him to be around 31-33% on BL, which is pretty good. Enough to beat Dante, I would think. Quite a few of those characters are under that, and most of the games are, as far as I can judge.

Exactly... no one's arguing that Vincent is all kinds of weak, I don't expect him to be 31-33, but rather at 30%, I'm saying he's not touching Crono.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

until proven otherwise, I've got Tifa > Aeris >= Vincent. it's fully possible that Vincent is stronger than I give him credit for, but that was my assumption pre-contest and I'm sticking with it until proven otherwise. Dante is clearly below Aeris and therefore below Tifa.
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http://picturesofwalls.com

*Dante and Luigi
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Only the Snake is the true hero. Solid Snake to the Final Four!

Seriously, though, why does it matter? I mean, the match isn't that far away...could we just wait and see?

No, because that would be the logical, and rational thing to do, and I want BLOOD, BLOOD, YA HEAR?!

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

I think saying that Vincent has to be strong because he hit 79% is a bad assumption.

I suppose that is a bit misleading. By strength I'm talking mid forties or better against Crono, before any possible SFF.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

You've yet to convince me that he isn't of some strength, then. Excepting liquid those are all high-midcarders or better. Where's your argument against it, then

The speculation in this topic is not "he's a high midcarder". The speculation is "he's a lock to win the division". Hey, guess what, Chichiri, Dante's on that list too!

Kerrigan's seed is irrelevant to her strength. That was all the doing of Leonhart's nomination rally of death. The fact that she only got a 4 seed even with the nomination rally proves that her deserved seed is that of fodder... or non-existant, even.
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono

I'm not saying Vincent isn't gonna be strong (he most assuredly will be strong). I'm saying he'll be a midcarder (like around 28% on BL). It's just that I think Dante is going to be stronger because of DMC3 and I think Vincent's being overestimated.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 44/52 points
Current Match Prediction: Dante vs. Vincent Valentine

"When did I say he wasn't of some strength?"

Then we're in agreement, 9 times out of 10 doing that well is a sign of strength enough to best the likes of Dante. Oddly enough you seemed to prent is as "I think saying that Vincent has to be strong because he hit 79% is a bad assumption." which would say the opposite, but since he's in such good company your first sentance was clearly written in error. I'll forgive yo the typo this one time.
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!

The speculation in this topic is not "he's a high midcarder". The speculation is "he's a lock to win the division". Hey, guess what, Chichiri, Dante's on that list too!

Dante?
Winning his division?

He would need a miracle to get past Squall, let alone past Vincent.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

125th Lopen 35

you learn to discount what Lopen says after a while.
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http://picturesofwalls.com

"Who said Vincent isn't going to be a high-midcarder?"

A lot of people that clearly weren't you, of course. Perhaps you missed the last half of the last topic.

Hey, I have a phone call, I'll catch up with you all in awhile.
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!

(I wasn't talking about Dante, I was talking about Vincent "being a lock")

37, fool!

And hey, I'm still not eliminated, yet! Which is more than I can say for half of em... ha ha ha ha...
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Master Chief's path to the championship: Round 3: (2) Crono.
Halo 2 + 7 vote loss vs Frog = 7 vote win vs Crono