The thing is, we've never seen Kerrigan in a contest setting, but we've seen Dante. If Vincent does break 60%, then I'll start to believe he'll be near elite. But for now, he still loses to Dante in my mind.

We've seen too many new characters suck for me to believe his strength.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

You realize of course that the only other newcomer to ever get above 70,000 votes was Auron when he faced Tails, right?
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)

...who went on to get crushed in this contest, along with the rest of the FFX cast.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

Auron didn't get "crushed". He did respectably against GANONDORF.
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The Power is Yours.

...who is possibly overrated because of the Magus incident.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

Ganondorf has proven his strength. Saying otherwise is foolish. It's been two years since 2003.
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The Power is Yours.

...[Ganon] is possibly overrated because of the Magus incident.

Ask Sephiroth if Ganon's still weaker than Alucard was in 2k3.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

*starts setting up Dante banners*

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*helps Delirium Trigger set up Dante banners*
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

*Assists DT and Draco*

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.

*watches delirium and Draco set up Dante Banners*
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You can have your opinion...
...it's wrong, but you can still have it

You guys don't remember Mario/Crono 2 very well. It started 20 minutes early, and though Crono was winning after 24 hours, ending the match 20 minutes early would have been ridiculous. Mario was winning at 1 AM EST, and Ceej couldn't do much about it if he couldn't detect flagrant cheating.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Oh, did I forget to mention that if Alucard has remained constant, Sora is stronger than Auron? :D
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)

The only fault I'll put on CJay at all in that match is that he shouldn't have started it that early, to avoid any such situation...

...then again though, maybe that's why it's such a great match eve today.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Tommy needed a weapon =/
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And btw, Auron wasn't the only newcomer to get more than 70k votes.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1310
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

I have a feeling Dante's going to get this pic... and I don't know if I like it or not.

http://www.revolution.lv/i/art/2038-dmcw6.jpg

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Heh...I remember Mario/Crono 2 ALL too well...Good to see Crono's come so far since then. However, if this potential SSB:M boost does help Mario (which personally I don't think will help the elite Ninty characters as much as the lower rung ones) then Mario might be able to give another MvC2 performance this year, should they meet in the finals.
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

*Assists DT, Draco and TCA*

Go Dante!!!
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

If Dante gets a DMC3 pic, Vincent is in for the fght of his life.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

I think people are starting to recognize me more under this account than my main. Anywho... worst pic Dante can get, or from what I can find.

http://www.cnet.com.au/i/r/2005/games/ps2/22050041/sc001.jpg

That face should would be horrendous.

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Post a good one from DMC3.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

From todays performance (currently, so it could change), based on Vercettis strongest and weakest performances in the stats, I get Crono to be from a range of 40.27% - 4.15% on '03 Link. So, unless Vercetti decreased, which could be possible, Crono could be closer to Samus than some like to think.
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People have been asking why Nintendo has gotten such a boost. I have two theories.

One, there have been new releases for most of these characters over the past year, as well as the DS. The DS is right up there with Twilight Princess when it comes to dominating Nintendo-related news, and the system happens to kick ass. It's currently outselling the PSP worldwide at a 10:3 ratio.

Secondly, everyone seems to think that only Crono has been able to get constant increases due to new exposure from the contest. Remember how low the prediction percentages were for SSBM last spring? It's not out of the realm of possibility for those who felt like SSBM's run came from left field to go and play/love the game. It's relatively far-fetched, but look at what SSBM's characters have done since last year. They've all gone up or have impressed, and Master Hand won a match over a Final Fantasy villain.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

True, I had thought for some reason Luigi was in 2k2. Doesn't matter though, even if you assume 4th seeded Kerrigan was as weak as 14th seeded Ratchet (HAH!), that still leaves Vincent slighty above Dante 2k4.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)

What about Dante 2k3?
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

I have Dante in my bracket, but I think Vincent will win after seeing round one.

Anyway there's still one thing that makes me hope. Vincent did great against a poor character, and got all the FF7 fans support. Will he perform as well even against a more popular character?
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I think Ulti's first theory is a bit easier to swallow. The second one seems a bit too farfetched to me.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

I get Crono to be from a range of 40.27% - 4.15% on '03 Link.


...Eh? 44.15%? 34.15%?
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

I can't wait until Dante gets his face kicked in. It has little to do with the annoyance of the Dante supporters (though seeing their self-pwnings will be a nice bonus); I simply can't stand Dante or Devil May Cry, and love the hell out of Vincent and FF7. I'm out of the contest, so I'm just rooting for my favorites from here on in.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

And I'm late, but congrats to Chichiri for making the leaderboard. Took ****in' long enough.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Also, I'd like to point people here:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=23191096&message=253107851

Since it was ignored. ;_;
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but look at what SSBM's characters have done since last year

It's not a great news, at least for me. SSBM is incredibly popular, especially on this site. The "SSBM factor" was one of the reason for which I choosed Ness over CJ in Round 1. Uh, and I was able to predict Master Hand over Kuja in the Villains, too.
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I can't find any good Dante pics, that would be good for an upclose faceshot... but they're are some kickass full body ones.

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I think that Dante will get the one he got vs. Tails last year.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

If you used the SSBM factor as a reason for MH over Kuja, I have a ton of respect for you. SSBM is my third favorite game and I still didn't think that Kuja had any chance.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

I still say that both this Nintendo boost and the 2k3 Square boost were merely results of variations in the voter pool. With the amount of voters we've gained since last year... that seems very possible.

And the only other time a change like this occurred (although then, it was to a greater extent) was 2k3 with the Square guys, when we gained about 50,000 voters that weren't there from the beginning.
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I'm with Sir Bormun on the voting patterns. I was going to post something similar myself, but, I couldn't be bothered. >_>
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[i]What about Dante 2k3?[/i]

Toss up, Dante's slightly stronger. Again, if you assume Kerrigan is as weak as '03 Ratchet.
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Vincent WILL break 60% on Dante.
(Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)

We've discussed the Solid Snake picture factor to death already. I personally don't think pictures make a difference of more than 2%. There may be overperformances when CT sprites are used, but God knows why.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Bormun makes one of the best points I've ever seen.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

To add to that, is there any reason why there are so many more voters? Does a good bracket make that much of a difference? And even then, we've only gotten (at a very rough estimate) an increase of ~5-15k in most matches, if that.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/29/2005 7:42:36 PM | Message Detail
To add to that, is there any reason why there are so many more voters? Does a good bracket make that much of a difference? And even then, we've only gotten (at a very rough estimate) an increase of ~5-15k in most matches, if that.

I'd guess that big banner of the front page. ^_-
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There are only 6 Dante supporters that I am aware of: Lopen, DT, TCA, charmander6000, ertyu, and myself.

And I would love to see Dante beat Vincent (or get close), if anything, to shut up the arrogant Vincent supporters who mocked the Kerrigan supporters and who think he'll be a threat to Crono.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 42/50 points
Current Match Prediction: Tommy Vercetti vs. Crono

I don't think obscenely good pics make that much of a difference, if at all, but I DO think that obscenely bad pics, to the point they where they look laughable or unrecognizable, they have pretty significant effect.

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Speaking of the leaderboard.

45 Grevlin 47 Zelda
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The Power is Yours.

To add to that, is there any reason why there are so many more voters? Does a good bracket make that much of a difference? And even then, we've only gotten (at a very rough estimate) an increase of ~5-15k in most matches, if that.

Maybe 2k4 was just a drop...
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/29/2005 7:43:19 PM | Message Detail
There are only 6 Dante supporters that I am aware of: Lopen, DT, TCA, charmander6000, ertyu, and myself.

And I would love to see Dante beat Vincent (or get close), if anything, to shut up the arrogant Vincent supporters who mocked the Kerrigan supporters and who think he'll be a threat to Crono.

How would it be arrogant to note a character performed very well and consider the possibility that the might do very well? I'd say your outlook is more so...
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As long as Dante keeps Vincent to 55% or less, I'll be happy.

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Well, in 2k3, there were obviously more voters because everyone remembered the first one and thus was excited to see another. Then in 2k4, participation dipped, partially because the contest was starting to be old news, partially because of the lack of good new characters, and partially because of the layout change.

This year... I wonder what drew so many people. All the new characters? Ceej's big advertisement banner at the top of the front page? The new setup with the ToC? I don't know. Probably a combination of those factors.
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