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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 222
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 6:56:08 PM | Message Detail
Master Chief ought to break 1000 in the next 15 minutes. This match is done like dinner. DK would have to pull a Mario to win now.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:02:42 PM | Message Detail
Not arguin' that, heh; I'm just sayin' very few would have taken Luigi to win the division.....

*looks at RPGuy and Master Mage*
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From: swirldude | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:05:19 PM | Message Detail
I would take MC, but my gut would nag me round the clock about Luigi possibly beating him.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:05:38 PM | Message Detail
And now we're over 1000.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:06:16 PM | Message Detail
I personally expect Crono to be either a little over 70% or a little below 70%.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:06:45 PM | Message Detail
Not arguin' that, heh; I'm just sayin' very few would have taken Luigi to win the division.....

*looks at RPGuy and Master Mage*


Don't look at me, I was the one who took Master Chief over Frog also, remember?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:08:24 PM | Message Detail
Heh, true, but you're also one with Luigi over Tifa.

Evens itself out, I suppose; you're exempt. Besides, it's not like I meant that one in a bad way.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:09:29 PM | Message Detail
Luigi/MC would be a relatively close match, but I'd take Luigi.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:10:31 PM | Message Detail
Evens itself out, I suppose; you're exempt. Besides, it's not like I meant that one in a bad way.

No, I know. After today I'd take Luigi, and I know you meant that it was a good thing, I was just saying I'd probably have put Master Chief into the finals just because it would be cooler. Especially post-Halo 2.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:11:37 PM | Message Detail

Don't look at me, I was the one who took Master Chief over Frog also, remember?


yay, me too! And we deserved that win. Damn board 8 and it's backward tastes.

And Master Chief is beating Crono. The End. The day vote is longer than the night vote. No one will vote for Crono during the day. No one. So MC wins, yay!
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:12:07 PM | Message Detail
Crono won the day vote in his last match.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:12:35 PM | Message Detail
I gotcha' then.

Before this contest, I wouldn't figure MC/Luigi would be close and it'd go in MC's favor. Right now, I wouldn't figure MC/Luigi would be close and it'd go in Luigi's favor.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:13:03 PM | Message Detail
Honsetly, I would expect Luigi vs. Master Chief to be a close match. In 2k3, Master Chief did a tad better on Aeris than Luigi did on Squall, and Aeris > Squall. Luigi does have PM2 and SM64DS, but Master Chief has had Halo 2. Also, Luigi isn't that far off DK in strength.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:13:07 PM | Message Detail
Luigi/MC would be a relatively close match, but I'd take Luigi.

After Luigi Vs KOS-MOS, I doubt it.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:13:43 PM | Message Detail
I think Luigi would win easily. It wouldn't even be that close, relatively. I think he'd get at least 52% before all is said and done.
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From: Keno316 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:13:53 PM | Message Detail
And Master Chief is beating Crono. The End. The day vote is longer than the night vote. No one will vote for Crono during the day. No one. So MC wins, yay!

Yep. Just like he beat Frog in the afore mentioned match...
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:14:33 PM | Message Detail
Luigi isn't that far off DK in strength.

It looks like it now. You really think DK would double KOS-MOS?
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:14:45 PM | Message Detail
In 2k3, Master Chief did a tad better on Aeris than Luigi did on Squall, and Aeris > Squall.

That's under the assumption that Link did nothing to Samus. I honestly have a hard time believing that Luigi is DK's equal.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:14:47 PM | Message Detail
I would take Squall over Aeris. It's a match I've always wanted to see, actually.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:16:10 PM | Message Detail
That's under the assumption that Link did nothing to Samus. I honestly have a hard time believing that Luigi is DK's equal.

No, I don't think Link did anything to Samus.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:16:23 PM | Message Detail
I personally think Link did SFF Samus. Otherwise, Luigi might not be the only one to make some huge increase. Maybe Squall did as well.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:17:39 PM | Message Detail
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:16:23 PM | Message Detail
I personally think Link did SFF Samus. Otherwise, Luigi might not be the only one to make some huge increase. Maybe Squall did as well.


Squall underperfomed on Kirby and Bomberman. He got almost what Alucard got on Bomberman...
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:17:41 PM | Message Detail
Goddamnit, DK.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:18:38 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Aeris over Squall; we've seen the damage that Cloud's done to Squall and Aeris's done to Sora...it wouldn't necessarily be that bad (and most likely wouldn't), but Aeris isn't that far from Squall anyways (if she's not already ahead of him; I don't remember). I would think she would have the inherent advantage.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:18:45 PM | Message Detail
Squall underperfomed on Kirby and Bomberman. He got almost what Alucard got on Bomberman...

Alucard's four-pack as a whole (Except Ramza) all over-performed for some weird reason.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:19:15 PM | Message Detail
Squall underperfomed on Kirby and Bomberman. He got almost what Alucard got on Bomberman...

Yeah, and did 3% better against Kirby. That should tell you that Bomberman was closer to Kirby than he was in 2003.

And after seeing what Kirby did to Tidus, I don't know how you can really question his strength. Of course, everyone wants to say it was all Kirby and it doesn't validate Squall's strength at all, but whatever.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:19:29 PM | Message Detail
...and I come back to MC still tearin' it up at 10 PM?!? Jeebus. It's official, DK's the king of all choke artists. He even beat a record set by Wind Waker we thought we'd never see beaten, ever.

...of course, if Chief still finds a way to slip up, forget what I just said about DK ruling chokeland.
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From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:19:43 PM | Message Detail
Alucard sure didn't show any overperformance against Sora.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:20:12 PM | Message Detail
Until Squall's match with someone we absolutely have true data on (Knuckles), will I believe his 2k4 value.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:20:21 PM | Message Detail
And after seeing what Kirby did to Tidus, I don't know how you can really question his strength. Of course, everyone wants to say it was all Kirby and it doesn't validate Squall's strength at all, but whatever.

Kirby increased because of his new game. Not to mention Tidus' 2k4 value was correct (non-20XXDF).
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:20:43 PM | Message Detail
we've seen the damage that Cloud's done to Squall and Aeris's done to Sora...

You're forgetting two very important things: Aeris isn't Cloud, and Squall isn't Sora. Those are two VERY different situations.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:21:31 PM | Message Detail
Not to mention Tidus' 2k4 value was correct (non-20XXDF).

Hey, guess what Kirby was expected to get on unadjusted Tidus based off of 2004 Squall? 57.13%!
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:22:04 PM | Message Detail
Personally, I think Squall will probably lose to Knuckles, possibly with a greater gap than what Magus lost with.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:22:42 PM | Message Detail
I think it validates Squall...for the most part. I'm respecting that Canvas Curse helped Kirby out a lil' (not alot though).
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:23:18 PM | Message Detail
Hey, guess what Kirby was expected to get on unadjusted Tidus based off of 2004 Squall? 57.13%!

Forgot Canvas Curse, eh?
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:23:26 PM | Message Detail
...I really don't know where you're getting that idea from. At least as far as we know, Tidus and Magus really can't be THAT far apart now. We saw what Squall did to Kirby and what Kirby did to Tidus.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:23:42 PM | Message Detail
Much as it pains me to say it, Knuckles will not beat Squall. He'll make it respectable (as he does so often against Snake), but the match will never be in doubt for Squall. Either that, or he's suddenly catapulted to Sonic's level for godknowswhatreason.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:23:57 PM | Message Detail
Forgot Canvas Curse, eh?

Right, I guess that made up the whopping .52% extra he got on that value.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:24:23 PM | Message Detail
I thought Canvus Curse for the most part didnt sell great.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:25:17 PM | Message Detail
Right, I guess that made up the whopping .52% extra he got on that value.

Kirby could have been weaker than the value you gave and could have possibly gotten a noticable boost from his new game.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:25:50 PM | Message Detail
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:24:23 PM | Message Detail
I thought Canvus Curse for the most part didnt sell great.


Go tell that to Kratos (GoW).
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:26:46 PM | Message Detail
Kirby could have been weaker than the value you gave and could have possibly gotten a noticable boost from his new game.

I wouldn't expect an extreme boost from it at all and definitely not enough to catapult Knuckles over Squall (2003 Kirby is practically equal to 2003 Knux).
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:28:30 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b42.jpg

...

That picture is ugly enough even to leave Crono at a loss for words.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:28:49 PM | Message Detail
Don't worry, I know the difference between Cloud, Aeris, Sora, and Squall...but after seeing such damage be done in those two instances, I feel obligated to give Aeris the edge. According to 2k3 stats, Squall would already lose to her in a close match (he'd get 48.34%)...now, you can account for Link/Samus SFF if you like (I think it's minimal, myself), but no reasonable adjustment would have him winning over her enough for me to think her FF7-edge couldn't overcome.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:29:24 PM | Message Detail
It's possible Knuckles could have been underrated all this time from facing Snake. >_>

But Magus losing was obviously due, in part, to him being overrated. Knuckles could be stronger than expected.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:29:29 PM | Message Detail
Haha. Worst Crono picture yet.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:30:01 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b42.jpg

Wow, that pic is funny. The "bad" kind of funny.
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Current Match Prediction: Master Chief vs. Donkey Kong
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:30:22 PM | Message Detail
That's *hideous*. What the **** is wrong with Ceej?
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:30:22 PM | Message Detail
He looks better than Tommy...
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/28/2005 7:30:26 PM | Message Detail
It's possible Knuckles could have been underrated all this time from facing Snake. >_>

I think that's just a lame excuse people are making up to make it seem like Knux has a chance. Snake has put up 3 different performances on him in 3 years, and he still remained relatively constant.
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