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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 220
From: Janus5000
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:14:04 AM | Message Detail
At the rate he's going, he'd hit 3000 in around 6-7 hours if he kept this up, which I doubt.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:14:34 AM | Message Detail
creativename: I know this may be impossible to do, but is there any way
of ever adding in a "Lead Up/Down" column on the updaters? Possibly
even going to 15 minute updates? Percentages of votes for each
character during a specific update timeframe?
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: RPGGamer0
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:16:22 AM | Message Detail
Probably not.
~RPGGamer~
~RPGGamer~
From: creativename
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:21:04 AM | Message Detail
Well, now I'm willing to say that DK is looking good. Looks like he
might stay above 53% before morning, which would leave him in a strong
position.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/28/2005 4:14:34 AM | Message Detail | #202
creativename: I know this may be impossible to do, but is there any way of ever adding in a "Lead Up/Down" column on the updaters? Possibly even going to 15 minute updates? Percentages of votes for each character during a specific update timeframe
I could go to 15 minute updates, but don't think that would be preferred. Especially since the main poll is now on 5 minute updates anyway. As for the rest, those would be rather complicated to implement. They've been on my to-do list but if I ever do them it probably won't be this contest.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/28/2005 4:14:34 AM | Message Detail | #202
creativename: I know this may be impossible to do, but is there any way of ever adding in a "Lead Up/Down" column on the updaters? Possibly even going to 15 minute updates? Percentages of votes for each character during a specific update timeframe
I could go to 15 minute updates, but don't think that would be preferred. Especially since the main poll is now on 5 minute updates anyway. As for the rest, those would be rather complicated to implement. They've been on my to-do list but if I ever do them it probably won't be this contest.
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From: Smurf87
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:23:31 AM | Message Detail
This jump for Nintendo characters is really ruining the contest. At
this point it looks like only the elite and those very close to that
level can take down even an average Ninty character.
It's damn stupid. A great contest is slowly being ruined.
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It's damn stupid. A great contest is slowly being ruined.
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From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:24:05 AM | Message Detail
409. He can win, dammit.
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Next victim: Master Zero
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:25:43 AM | Message Detail
"This jump for Nintendo characters is really
ruining the contest. At this point it looks like only the elite and
those very close to that level can take down even an average Ninty
character.
It's damn stupid. A great contest is slowly being ruined."
Are you kidding? This is awesome! Now all that needs to happen if for FF7 to take a huge drop in popularity here and it looks like this site will finally be gaining some sanity.
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Can't think of a good sig.
It's damn stupid. A great contest is slowly being ruined."
Are you kidding? This is awesome! Now all that needs to happen if for FF7 to take a huge drop in popularity here and it looks like this site will finally be gaining some sanity.
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Can't think of a good sig.
From: creativename
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:26:27 AM | Message Detail
DK wouldn't need much of a jump to win this. He was at 23.55% before,
but he's been at 25.34% in 2K3. Master Chief came out to be between
25%-26% based on Frog. So this was going to be a close match anyway.
And I would think that people would like change, as without it these contests lose some of their purpose.
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And I would think that people would like change, as without it these contests lose some of their purpose.
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From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:26:41 AM | Message Detail
Blade, you speak the truth.
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Next victim: Master Zero
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: Smurf87
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:29:34 AM | Message Detail
How is it Awesome? Bowser is going to defeat Snake, Tifa could very
well take down Sonic and Megaman. And Vincent could see off Crono.
Does anybody really want a noble 9 that looks like this?
Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Tifa
Samus
Vincent
Ganondorf
Bowser
Crono
It's all Squintendo. All this contest is doing, is shoving the variation out of the elite characters.
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Does anybody really want a noble 9 that looks like this?
Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Tifa
Samus
Vincent
Ganondorf
Bowser
Crono
It's all Squintendo. All this contest is doing, is shoving the variation out of the elite characters.
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:35:37 AM | Message Detail
It would be good if things continued like this, Snake, Sonic and Mega
Man (and all the strong non Nintendo/Square characters) stayed constant
or rose, and Square (particularly FF7) dropped, making way for new
characters. Someone needs to take on Nintendo in these contests, but
I'm sick of it being FF7.
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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Janus5000
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:36:02 AM | Message Detail
...Is DK choking already?
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From: chaoscell
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:37:09 AM | Message Detail
From: Smurf87 | Posted: 8/28/2005 4:29:34 AM
How is it Awesome? Bowser is going to defeat Snake, Tifa could very well take down Sonic and Megaman. And Vincent could see off Crono.
Does anybody really want a noble 9 that looks like this?
Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Tifa
Samus
Vincent
Ganondorf
Bowser
Crono
It's all Squintendo. All this contest is doing, is shoving the variation out of the elite characters.
Oh god, if there were 4 FF7 characters in the noble nine I'd kill myself.
-=Æ=-
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How is it Awesome? Bowser is going to defeat Snake, Tifa could very well take down Sonic and Megaman. And Vincent could see off Crono.
Does anybody really want a noble 9 that looks like this?
Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Tifa
Samus
Vincent
Ganondorf
Bowser
Crono
It's all Squintendo. All this contest is doing, is shoving the variation out of the elite characters.
Oh god, if there were 4 FF7 characters in the noble nine I'd kill myself.
-=Æ=-
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From: creativename
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:37:14 AM | Message Detail
There's a move by MC. If he gets this below 52% by morning he should win without trouble.
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From: Opiate109
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:38:01 AM | Message Detail
Oh god, if there were 4 FF7 characters in the noble nine I'd kill myself.
I would too. Cid clearly deserves a spot as well.
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Wheels within wheels; in a spiral array,
A pattern so grand and complex.
I would too. Cid clearly deserves a spot as well.
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Wheels within wheels; in a spiral array,
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From: Smurf87
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:38:28 AM | Message Detail
DK will win the day vote, unless bungie decide to step in.
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:39:58 AM | Message Detail
"Oh god, if there were 4 FF7 characters in the noble nine I'd kill myself."
Tell me about it.
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Can't think of a good sig.
Tell me about it.
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Can't think of a good sig.
From: Aprosenf
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:40:14 AM | Message Detail
Go, DK, go!
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From: creativename
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:40:20 AM | Message Detail
Vincent and Tifa beating existing "noble nine" characters would be
great. Though they wouldn't "join" the noble nine, as it would cease to
exist at that point (which is reason enough to root for them, or
Bowser, doing so; as it has always annoyed me).
And frankly, I'd be surprised if Tifa and Vincent didn't end up stronger than Snake and Sonic.
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And frankly, I'd be surprised if Tifa and Vincent didn't end up stronger than Snake and Sonic.
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From: creativename
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:41:04 AM | Message Detail
DK winning the day vote would be quite a shock, actually.
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From: transience
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:41:07 AM | Message Detail
well, I just got home and haven't read anything, but I'd say this is a
tossup. figures the match after the "gauntlet" would potentially be the
biggest bracket-buster of them all.
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From: RPGGamer0
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:41:17 AM | Message Detail
I can't see how the Bungie.net Factor wasn't that great. I thought it
was, but maybe you all saw that Master Chief comeback on Frog coming
from a mile away.
~RPGGamer~
~RPGGamer~
From: transience
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:43:38 AM | Message Detail
this day vote is interesting, too - an x-box character who's weak as
hell during the night vs. a nintendo character who's not really known
for the day vote. one would have to call MC the favourite right now, I
think.
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From: RPGGamer0
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:46:06 AM | Message Detail
Yay, DK went back up after losing those two updates.
~RPGGamer~
~RPGGamer~
From: RPGGamer0
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:46:25 AM | Message Detail
And with that, I'm off to bed. Good night guys.
~RPGGamer~
~RPGGamer~
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:46:40 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief is a posterboy for the day vote. I still say that he is
the heavy favorite to win this, especially considering how bad DK is in
the day. This match has already stalled at 400 votes. Chief made a 3100
vote turnaround on Frog, the majority of which was done in a matter of
four hours. I really don't think DK can win, but I'm rooting for him.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: voltch
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:46:42 AM | Message Detail
MC is one hell of a dud. he's the xbox mascot and any company mascot
should be strong. he should be top 12 material but no he fails.
konami/sega/capcom each have there powerful mascots and some leftovers
that can pose threats but xbox no matter how hated should have a strong
representive. but they don't man doesn't it make you feel rotten if
you're mascot loses to a frog with a sword that can chop up mountains?
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From: Chinballz
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:48:33 AM | Message Detail
any company mascot should be strong.
True, but look at the company he's the mascot of. Do the math.
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True, but look at the company he's the mascot of. Do the math.
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From: Janus5000
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:50:49 AM | Message Detail
...Apparently MC's comeback was between spurts.
Then he got shot.
And it hurt.
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Then he got shot.
And it hurt.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:50:55 AM | Message Detail
So my roomate is playing Viewtiful Joe, right. I liked the game but
never finished it. I'm not big on gaming. So pre-drunken stupor what do
I discover as he begins the game as Sylvia? She has a twin try to make
out with her in the opening movie scene. Best game ever, dammit, best
game ever.
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!
From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:53:43 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and I love Sylvia's panties.
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First you make a circle, then you dot the eyes, add a great big smile and presto, it's Kirby!
From: transience
| Posted: 8/28/2005 1:59:45 AM | Message Detail
hm. I think if this lead hits 1000 votes, I'll begin to doubt that MC can come back.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:00:55 AM | Message Detail
anyone believe a favourite bracket might win this one?
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From: voltch
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:06:27 AM | Message Detail
by the way if we get another games contest we should all nominate big rigs. then every contest will have it's official tanner
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From: Kagato Toujou
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:10:33 AM | Message Detail
Lead of 558 for the tie-wearin' ape.
Off to bed now. I really wonder how well DK will do, and if the Nintendo character rub and X-Box antivotes can hold off the probable flood of MC votes in the offing.
Off to bed now. I really wonder how well DK will do, and if the Nintendo character rub and X-Box antivotes can hold off the probable flood of MC votes in the offing.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:11:37 AM | Message Detail
and Square (particularly FF7) dropped,
That's the last thing I'd ever want to see.
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That's the last thing I'd ever want to see.
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To the man whose spirit was so free it was bothersome... Kurosaki Ichigo, my sword has been broken by your freedom of spirit.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:13:29 AM | Message Detail
From: transience | Posted: 8/28/2005 4:59:45 AM | Message Detail | #232
hm. I think if this lead hits 1000 votes, I'll begin to doubt that MC can come back.
Are people forgetting the character we're dealing with here? This is Donkey Kong, the same guy whose game nearly blew a 3400 vote lead against Duck Hunt. The same guy who had to come back from being down over 1000 votes against Aya Brea. The same guy who came back from being down 500 votes to Vercetti, only to lose the match by nearly 1000 votes. The same guy who made Vivi look like a strong character.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
hm. I think if this lead hits 1000 votes, I'll begin to doubt that MC can come back.
Are people forgetting the character we're dealing with here? This is Donkey Kong, the same guy whose game nearly blew a 3400 vote lead against Duck Hunt. The same guy who had to come back from being down over 1000 votes against Aya Brea. The same guy who came back from being down 500 votes to Vercetti, only to lose the match by nearly 1000 votes. The same guy who made Vivi look like a strong character.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: transience
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:15:54 AM | Message Detail
Ulti, I didn't think you'd be one to compare games and characters.
and "begin to doubt that MC can come back" was probably the wrong words, or at least they can be read in the wrong way. I meant that I'll believe that DK has a chance to win.
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and "begin to doubt that MC can come back" was probably the wrong words, or at least they can be read in the wrong way. I meant that I'll believe that DK has a chance to win.
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From: Janus5000
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:18:02 AM | Message Detail
We were overdue for a DK thriller. This will probably be the fourth.
The only thing better than DK at getting close matches is Chrono Trigger, but then again, there have been three representatives from it, as opposed to just DK.
Now, if we count Mario as a representative from Donkey Kong the game (yes I know it's Jumpman), then... >_>
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The only thing better than DK at getting close matches is Chrono Trigger, but then again, there have been three representatives from it, as opposed to just DK.
Now, if we count Mario as a representative from Donkey Kong the game (yes I know it's Jumpman), then... >_>
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From: Heroic_Cable
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:19:09 AM | Message Detail
DK's in all that Mario spinoff stuff too, and do't forget Mario vs Donkey kong.
From: chaos knight
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:19:18 AM | Message Detail
On another note, is it kind of sad in a way that nothing of the current
generation of gaming can touch anything of previous generations? FF7
seems to be about the most recent thing that can touch the most popular
of characters and that was released about 8 years ago! It's like this
entire generation of characters has been a complete wash; only having
the ability to create modest mid-carders instead of any true, new elite
characters or games out there.
Unless something is done about this, what is it to say about the future of gaming if it cannot look beyond its own past glory anymore?
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Unless something is done about this, what is it to say about the future of gaming if it cannot look beyond its own past glory anymore?
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From: Janus5000
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:21:07 AM | Message Detail
Is Auron the strongest character from this gen?
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:21:10 AM | Message Detail
Unless something is done about this, what is it to say about the
future of gaming if it cannot look beyond its own past glory anymore?
Popularity on GF doesn't always translate into the market. The Halo and GTA series are selling millions upon millions of copies combined, so there are people out there looking forward. The problem lies in the generation gaps among gamers.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
Popularity on GF doesn't always translate into the market. The Halo and GTA series are selling millions upon millions of copies combined, so there are people out there looking forward. The problem lies in the generation gaps among gamers.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: transience
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:22:02 AM | Message Detail
Solid Snake has done a pretty good job, as far as new characters go.
(unless you consider him to be a NES character.. to which I think I'm
the only one who does)
people grow up with the "icons", and that's just how it goes.
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people grow up with the "icons", and that's just how it goes.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:24:21 AM | Message Detail
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/28/2005 5:21:07 AM | Message Detail | #242
Is Auron the strongest character from this gen?
Remember that bracket Slowflake made where he divided the divisions by era and Tidus/Shadow the Hedgehog were the 1/2 seeds?
Yeah, I'm glad Auron has bunked that theory.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
Is Auron the strongest character from this gen?
Remember that bracket Slowflake made where he divided the divisions by era and Tidus/Shadow the Hedgehog were the 1/2 seeds?
Yeah, I'm glad Auron has bunked that theory.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:25:21 AM | Message Detail
In that case we're tlaking about date of creation, making Snake old. So
yeah, Auron is basically the strongest character from this generation.
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From: Janus5000
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:27:16 AM | Message Detail
Remember that bracket Slowflake made where he divided the divisions by era and Tidus/Shadow the Hedgehog were the 1/2 seeds?
...No, I don't >_>
Now, the 1/2 seeds would probably be Auron and Sora.
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...No, I don't >_>
Now, the 1/2 seeds would probably be Auron and Sora.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:28:28 AM | Message Detail
after KH II i would imagine sora would become top 15 material
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From: RamzaB
| Posted: 8/28/2005 2:59:34 AM | Message Detail
Wow, DK taking the wood to Master Chief early. I don't know what it is,
but something has happened to make these Nintendo characters tough as
heck. That or other people have been seriously overrating a lot of
characters.
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From: Smurf87
| Posted: 8/28/2005 3:05:46 AM | Message Detail
Shadow got 45% aganist Mario and has his own game coming out.
I still say that he could beat Auron and anybody else for this generation.
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I still say that he could beat Auron and anybody else for this generation.
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