See? Like I said, you'd have to be insane to pick Ryu over Zelda, and Chun Li = Tidus.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

<3 Bowser. Maybe I'll start caring again.

Oh yeah, this match proves that CATS > Ryu (since CATS > Ganondorf > Bowser > Ryu).
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George Romero > You.

Bowser > Snake
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VOTE: BOWSER in the Summer Contest

Wow, Bowser just might break 60% here.

He's taken 62.5% of the vote within the past hour.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

Nah, he won't be doing that, Street Fighter is always extermely terrible with the first couple hours of the day vote...don't expect these large gains to continue all day.

Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)

1) 1.72% - Knuckles over Magus
2) 2.28% - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 2.50% - Pac-Man over Revolver Ocelot
4) 3.34% - Frog over Riku
5) 8.20% - (ii) Ganondorf over Auron
6) 8.82% - (ii) Solid Snake over Zelda
7) 9.38% - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
8) 10.28% - Ness over Carl Johnson
9) 10.72% - (ii) Sora over Alucard
10) 11.04% - Alucard over Kratos


Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 1756 - Knuckles over Magus
2) 2245 - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 2268 - Pac-Man over Revolver Ocelot
4) 3149 - Frog over Riku
5) 7952 - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
6) 8141 - (ii) Ganondorf over Auron
7) 9480 - (ii) Solid Snake over Zelda
8) 10036 - Alucard over Kratos
9) 10237 - Ness over Carl Johnson
10) 10318 - (ii) Sora over Alucard

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)

1) 74.68% - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
2) 68.18% - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
3) 65.60% - (ii) Mario ove Ness
4) 61.78% - Mario over Joanna Dark
5) 58.00% - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan
6) 56.14% - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse
7) 53.44% - Crono over Zidane
8) 52.30% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
9) 52.04% - Megaman over Conker
10) 50.42% - Kirby over Cecil

Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 63680 - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
2) 62487 - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
3) 61244 - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 59870 - (ii) Mario over Ness
5) 58142 - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan
6) 54045 - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse
7) 51944 - Crono over Zidane
8) 51894 - Megaman over Conker
9) 49390 - Squall Leonhart over Geno
10) 47602 - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama

Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 107362 - (ii) Solid Snake vs. Zelda
2) 106979 - Ganondorf vs. Yuna
3) 106419 - Luigi vs. KOS-MOS
4) 106264 - Ryu vs. Rikku
5) 104671 - Vivi vs. Zelda
6) 102062 - Magus vs. Knuckles
7) 102040 - (ii)Kirby vs. Tidus
8) 101195 - Tidus vs. King of All Cosmos
9) 100496 - Bowser vs. Chun-Li
10) 100258 - Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine

Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 84794 - Lloyd Irving vs. Albert Wesker
2) 85306 - Samus Aran vs. Yuri Hyuga
3) 85945 - Kratos Aurion vs. Diablo
4) 87141 - Donkey Kong vs. Sam Fisher
5) 88144 - Sora vs. Agent 47
6) 89495 - (ii) Zero vs. Lloyd Irving
7) 89823 - Kirby vs. Cecil
8) 90418 - Revolver Ocelot vs. Pac-Man
9) 90928 - Kratos vs. Alucard
10) 91032 - Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Jin Kazama

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."

Top 10 Highest Individual Votes

1) 80185 - Mario
2) 79200 - Vincent Valentine
3) 77063 - Solid Snake
4) 75807 - Megaman
5) 75566 - (ii) Mario
6) 75159 - Tifa Lockheart
7) 74580 - Crono
8) 74493 - Samus Aran
9) 74412 - Squall Leonhart
10) 73408 - Tidus

Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes

1) 10813 - Yuri Hyuga
2) 14576 - Manny Calavera
3) 15696 - (ii) Ness
4) 18941 - Joanna Dark
5) 21058 - Sarah Kerrigan
6) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive
7) 21715 - Jin Kazama
8) 22267 - Cecil
9) 22636 - Zidane
10) 23913 - Conker

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)

1) 50153 - Magus
2) 48941 - (ii) Zelda
3) 47920 - Kefka
4) 47054 - Rikku
5) 45514 - (ii) Auron
6) 45455 - Riku
7) 44644 - Carl Johnson
8) 44075 - Revolver Ocelot
9) 43215 - (ii) Tidus
10) 43002 - (ii) Alucard

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)

1) 46343 - Pac-Man
2) 46373 - Lloyd Irving
3) 48604 - Frog
4) 48783 - Diablo
5) 50165 - Tommy Vercetti
6) 50482 - Alucard
7) 51909 - Knuckles
8) 53320 - (ii) Sora
9) 53655 - (ii) Ganondorf
10) 54875 - Leon Kennedy

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) 97.98% - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
2) 96.76% - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
3) 96.53% - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 92.20% - Master Cheif over CATS
5) 92.16% - Yoshi over Laharl
6) 92.10% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
7) 89.87% - Crono over Zidane
8) 89.72% - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse
9) 89.12% - Squall Leonhart over Geno
10) 88.83% - Megaman over Conker

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) 35.08% - Knuckles over Magus
2) 35.13% - (ii) Sora over Alucard
3) 37.66% - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
4) 38.36% - Pac-Man over Revolver Ocelot
5) 43.62% - Leon Kennedy over Gordon Freeman
6) 51.31% - Alucard over Kratos
7) 51.90% - Ness over Carl Johnson
8) 53.08% - Frog over Riku
9) 53.88% - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
10) 54.18% - (ii) Zero over Lloyd Irving

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."

Wow. This is Ryu's first loss to a non-Nine character, and it's likely going to be his worst defeat so far.
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"The surest sign of intelligent life outside Earth is that none of them has tried to contact us" ~Calvin

And as Bowser storms past the 2500 mark, here's my winners and losers from the top half of the second round bracket:

1) Kirby

A brilliant performance by Kirby, the high vote totals helping him cruise to a somewhat unexpected victory over Tidus by a clear 15%. A Nintendo swing? A 1-seed factor? Tidus just being extremely ordinary? All of the above?

2) Bowser

The match is still in progress, but right now he's taking Ryu to the cleaners with over 57%, and rising rapidly with the day vote. A vulgar display of power, which if maintained can only be described as noble-nine-esque. Solid Snake has every reason to be worried.

3) Sora

Another match in the "gauntlet", and another match which ends in disappointment for anyone expecting something close. Sora never allowed Alucard into the match, going toe to toe during his strongest hours and running away with the day vote. Wins what is effectively his final.

4) Mario

SFF's Ness into oblivion, very encouraging for anyone with Mario>Samus. Had probably the second easiest opponent in this round, but still put the match away. 82%+ against anyone is impressive.

5) Samus

Doubled Frog and showed him up as being overrated last year. Just about managed 70%, a bit better than what a lot of people expected, namely around the doubling mark.

6) Zero

The question was not if Zero would win, but by how much, and 70%+ and pushing towards a tripling is very nice. Very weak opposition, but you can only face what you come up against.

7) Solid Snake

Negotiates a potential banana-skin quite safely, doing enough to defeat Zelda without too much trouble in what will likely be his hardest match of the division.

8) Ganondorf

Took down Auron, maintaining momentum from the Spring and now heads into a probable loss against Samus. Like quite a few people in this round, this match was probably "his final", in that whoever wins it is doomed to failure next round.

9) Zelda

Went within 10% of a noble nine competitor. Lots of people were whispering about a potential upset, particularly given the picture, but was losing from wire to wire. Notably did better than Aeris against a common opponent.

10) Alucard

His only chance was to pound Sora with the first night vote, and he didn't. Only managed to get a very small lead early, was losing by the time we got to 10000 votes, and the kiddies woke up to finish him off.

11) Auron

Never lead in the match, but was able to keep it fairly close for a while, then we got four hours in and Ganondorf ran away with the match.

12) Ness

Was doomed from the get-go, only managing to stay above 20% for a very short time, and finished with a poor showing both votes wise and percentage wise. A good contest though, with a great win over CJ.

13) Frog

From keeping Solid Snake on his toes to being doubled by Samus. Oh dear. 2004 is quickly forgotten as CT continues to implode.

14) Ryu

Ouch. Now trailing by 3000, percentage plummeting, couldn't even manage a thing with the night vote. Still has the potential to get even worse. Could well be a drop, coupled with an across the board Nintendo increase. He's doing worse than Yoshi did.

15) Tidus

Looked like it was his match to lose, and that he did, with the match being over before the kids woke up. Made to look extremely ordinary, overrated, downright weak, say what you will. This is a failure of epic proportions.

16) Lloyd Irving

Ought to be glad he got the one win that he did, against what is obviously a weak Wesker. Doubled from post to post, below 70% for most of it, just a poor showing all round.

I may post a divisional final preview for the top half later.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

CATS will get a better seeding next year i'm sure. he deserves a 6th seed against a 3rd seeded gordie freeman
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

Darn...how on earth did Ocelot lose to PAC-MAN if Bowser's dominating like that?

Also, if Chun-Li has the same voting patterns as Ryu, Bowser should end up at about 58.5%, which is higher than both Snake and Samus managed. (so, Ryu surely weakened at least a bit)

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Ryu did not weaken folks... this is the year of the SSB:M. Bowser/Kirby should have some pretty kick ass SSB:M SFF too.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 4/48 (Kefka, Magus, Ocelot, Tidus)

Bowser broke 59% and he even gained more than .1%.

Go Bowser!
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George Romero > You.

What do people mean when they call it the year of SSB. M? The game is four years old, it's not the cause of this upswing. It has added to the popularity of the characters for years, but it shouldn't be causing their sudden increase now.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero

Whaddya know, another inaccurate year for Kirby and Tidus!
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart

That can only mean that Ryu decreased. I expected as much especially after the Bowser-Chun-Li match.

What do people mean when they call it the year of SSB. M? The game is four years old, it's not the cause of this upswing.

Because they're too blind to realize that, and that all Nintendo characters in this tournament are from SSBM.
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart

It's being bundled with Gamecubes now, isn't it?
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George Romero > You.

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Because now if you buy a Gamecube for 99$, SSBM comes packed in free! Har Har.

But anyway, according to EBGame's top 10 charts, which aren't really official or anything, but SSBM is still the number 1 selling Gamecube game. It shouldn't be giving it a boost out of nowhere but at the least the game is still a fresh hit.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

What do people mean when they call it the year of SSB. M? The game is four years old, it's not the cause of this upswing. It has added to the popularity of the characters for years, but it shouldn't be causing their sudden increase now.

i seriously doubt this apparent Nintendo shift/boost has anything directly to do with SSBM, but it is all of the Nintendo characters that were in SSBM that seem to have boosted. that's what Tnote meant by "the year of SSBM".

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."

It really doesn't matter..

Bowser could win this match with 85% but the rule will always stand.

No Non Noble 9 Character Beats a Noble 9 Character.

Period.

It just doesn't change.
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 30/32
Rank : 42/33793 Today: Mario Tomorrow: Zero

TG, you'll never know.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

The Noble Nine was always a weak idea anyway. The Super Seven is much more solid and unyielding. Sonic and Snake are just numbered.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

super seven? more like supreme seven
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

No. It becomes the Supreme Six once Megaman's ass is booted out.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

Nah..

Sonic and Snake deserve to be in the Noble 9.

Hell, if you throw out Sonic and Snake, you would have to throw out Megaman (Him being so close to Sonic)

You can't just throw away the Noble 9, its too classiX

1) Link
2) Cloud
3) Sephiroth
4) Samus
5) Crono
6) Mario
7) Megaman
8) Sonic
9) Solid Snake

Its written on your heart, *****es.
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 30/32
Rank : 42/33793 Today: Mario Tomorrow: Zero

Not really, it's just the 9 strongest characters. And Bowser/Tifa could very well end it. Not likely, but it's possible.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

Why would they get booted out?

The only way to get booted out is if you lose to a Non Noble 9 Character. Thats the only way to change it =/.

If Megaman lost to Sonic = He is still in

If Sonic lost to Megaman = He is still in

If Sonic lost to Tifa = Sonic out

If Megaman lost to Tifa = Megaman out

If Snake lost to Bowser = Snake out

You don't add members to the Noble 9, only subtract.
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 30/32
Rank : 42/33793 Today: Mario Tomorrow: Zero

No one said anything about adding..
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

Slowflake, did you ever post your winners and losers?
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Vote Diablo in SC2k5.
PWN'D by yoblazer in the guru contest. Congrats.

You know who's never lost to a non-Noble Nine character? Tanner.

TANNER FOR THE TOP TEN!
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George Romero > You.

From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/27/2005 3:19:04 PM | #077
No. It becomes the Supreme Six once Megaman's ass is booted out.

What? Mega Man is clearly second tier after you take out Clinkeroth as top tier.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

so if in 25 years every member of the noble loses to a non noble niner then what do we do ? call the top twelve the patriots?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

Megaman may have been one of the the strongest before and maybe even now, but he's also the most volatile. He's the only non-Square or non-Nintendo member besides Sonic and Solid Snake. The fact that his good games have stopped coming, and I think it'll bite him in the ass in the future sooner than it's going to bite someone like Crono in the ass.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

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Man, I definitely wasn't expecting Bowser's percentage to increase throughout the night. Way to totally blow it, Ryu.

So, does this mean that Auron is clearly the strongest of the FFX crew?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

so let me guess the noble nine will slowly over the years become something like

the elite eight
super seven
supreme six
flamboyant five
final four
the triumvirat
the triumphant two
the One

top twelve become the patriots
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

So yah...

My favorites bracket is now beating me by 3 points and my next difference is MC vs. DK where I like DK better.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Holy ****, Ryu is gettin' POUNDED. Somebody better tell Bowser to slow down, or else he might beat Solid.....
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Kirby will swallow Bowser, spikes and all.

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/27/2005 11:02:14 AM | Message Detail
Holy ****, Ryu is gettin' POUNDED. Somebody better tell Bowser to slow down, or else he might beat Solid.....

Of course he'll beat Snake, there's no need to slow down.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

damnit! next round is the sprites. Bowser sprite>solid ****
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

Upper Dream Division:

Kirby: 50.00%
Tidus: 42.35%
Cecil: 24.79%
King of all Cosmos: 23.26%
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Summer Contest Score: 41/46
Today's Pick: Bowser

Bowser looks like he's on a collision course with an SFF beat down at the hands of Mario or Samus. If nothing else, my bracket is happy...for once.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

Does anyone have Sora and Snake's divisions stats?
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

damnit! next round is the sprites. Bowser sprite>solid ****

Too bad he's facing Kirby next round! >.>

Yeah but snake will struggle with his awful pic to demolish sora and when bowser shows his awesomeness by blowing kirby it's gonna give bowser a lot of momentum
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

HOT DAMN, Bowser's owning baby. He's safely going to end at about 60%. That is incredible, outdoing Sonic's, Snake's and even Samus' performance.

Just...wow. I'm thinking this Ryu has definitely decreased (as seen in his performance against Rikku), but Ryu within 5% on Chun-Li is odd.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Bowser vs. Ryu - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Bowser (40/46)