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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 219
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:15:21 PM | Message Detail
And Sephiroth will beat Cloud in the ToC.

Actually, Cloud won't make it that far.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 40/48 points
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:15:24 PM | Message Detail
And Mario will beat Link in the ToC.

Seriously though, if Snake loses this, it's through no fault of his own.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:16:40 PM | Message Detail
Actually, Cloud won't make it that far.

Cloud most certainly will make it that far.

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From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:17:15 PM | Message Detail
And Sephiroth will beat Cloud in the ToC.

Link*
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:17:23 PM | Message Detail
With no Advent Children, and a generalized Nintendo boost, it's going to be difficult as all hell.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:18:07 PM | Message Detail
It isn't as though Final Fantasy VII has been lacking. As good as Nintendo appears to be doing, all things FFVII haven't disappointed either.

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From: Gordon Finish | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:18:27 PM | Message Detail
I see the stat-topic has gone through a productive day. =p

~Shake
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:18:29 PM | Message Detail
55% on Bowser..hehe, even after Sephiroth/Bowser?
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:19:17 PM | Message Detail
I see the stat-topic has gone through a productive day. =p

It's been a while since I've tried arguing with people in the stats topic >.>
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:19:43 PM | Message Detail
Cloud most certainly will make it that far.

I honestly have no clue how you can say Cloud will beat Link with a straight face after watching Nintendo's domination of this contest.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:20:10 PM | Message Detail
HM makes a good point though. If Vincent and Tifa are indication, FFVII is alive and well.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:22:59 PM | Message Detail
Let me see if I can find the rest of the pictures I picked out...

Kirby - http://www.ivynajspyder.com/kirby/image/tokkori_kirby.jpg
Tidus - http://thor.mirtna.org/oddities/lookalikes/pics/tidus-01.jpg
Ryu - http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper522/stills/l3w6609a.jpg
Master Chief - http://photos1.blogger.com/img/250/2014/640/CATVCG8H.jpg
Donkey Kong - http://www.nesfiles.com/NES/Donkey_Kong_Classics/Donkey_Kong_Classics_boxfront.jpg
Tommy Vercetti - http://members.lycos.nl/vicecitysite/images/armyskin_afb.jpg
Crono - http://www.japimpact.com/images/fanart/V/Vince_Frog-et-Crono.jpg
Dante - http://tn2.deviantart.com/300W/fs6.deviantart.com/i/2005/089/c/4/Dante_Sparda_by_lilykane.jpg
Vincent Valentine - http://fscwasteland.com/inky/vincent.jpg
Knuckles - http://emulazione.multiplayer.it/sonic/knuckles6.jpg
Sonic - http://static.zoovy.com/img/gkworld/W204-H264-Bf3f3f3/sonicplush1
Diablo - http://www.real-women-lingerie.co.uk/panache/AW03%20JPEG%20PICTURES/images/A%20Diablo%20%201.jpg (5th image Google brings back)
Tifa - http://www.anim8or.com/gallery/gallery11/tifa_lockheart.jpg
Luigi - http://www.computerclubhouse.org/flagship/people/Luigi/pics/luigi-33.jpg
Mega Man - http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/MegaMan1_NESBOXboxart_160w.jpg
Leon Kennedy - http://www.gameline.cz/figures/obrazky/leon.jpg
Yoshi - http://park10.wakwak.com/~utage/d/yoshi.jpg (3rd image)
Pac-Man - http://www.tomheroes.com/images/Pac-man.jpg

There's one particular image of Squall I wanted to use, but I can't seem to find it. I'll look harder.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:23:14 PM | Message Detail
But they could've been this strong right off the bat, though...
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:23:53 PM | Message Detail
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:18:29 PM | Message Detail
55% on Bowser..hehe, even after Sephiroth/Bowser?


Yes. And Sephiroth will amaze you when he overperforms on whoever comes out of the main bracket.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:27:23 PM | Message Detail
XD

Nice list, Leon.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:27:28 PM | Message Detail
Yes. And Sephiroth will amaze you when he overperforms on whoever comes out of the main bracket.

So, you're gonna put Snake that closer to Sephiroth, and then after all the preaching of Ryu > Bowser, you're gonna make Ryu weaker than someone he beat with 55% ago look way stronger than him now?
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:28:13 PM | Message Detail
Er, 54% 2 years ago.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:28:43 PM | Message Detail
Dranze... what the hell are you trying to say?
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:28:49 PM | Message Detail
So, you're gonna put Snake that closer to Sephiroth, and then after all the preaching of Ryu > Bowser, you're gonna make Ryu weaker than someone he beat with 55% ago look way stronger than him now?

I'm not using stats. It's just what I think will happen. Nothing more.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:29:22 PM | Message Detail
I honestly have no clue how you can say Cloud will beat Link with a straight face after watching Nintendo's domination of this contest.

Again, it isn't as though Final Fantasy VII has been a disappointment. Nintendo has been doing well, but I think some people are blowing it way out of proportion. It isn't like Nintendo has yet to disappoint. They may have won, but by no means was it a victory exceeding expectations every time.

There's no reason to count out anything relating to Final Fantasy VII at this point.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:29:27 PM | Message Detail
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 8:28:43 PM | #468
Dranze... what the hell are you trying to say?

I second that. WTF?
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:32:29 PM | Message Detail
Basically, I can't see Ryu being almost consistent for 3 years and then suddenly dropping like mad on the 4th year, I can accept dropping/over-rated a bit, but to the extent of Snake getting like, over 60% on him, even if he has gained is a bit, I dunno..
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:32:45 PM | Message Detail
Again, it isn't as though Final Fantasy VII has been a disappointment. Nintendo has been doing well, but I think some people are blowing it way out of proportion. It isn't like Nintendo has yet to disappoint. They may have won, but by no means was it a victory exceeding expectations every time.

There's no reason to count out anything relating to Final Fantasy VII at this point.


I'mn not counting FF7 out entirely. Cloud does have a slim chance for the upset. It's just that with every Nintendo character's performance, Link just looks like he's going to be a beast when the ToC rolls around.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:35:01 PM | Message Detail
And how can you say Solid Snake will clear 55% easily with a clear face? I mean Nintendo's "Dominance" should persuade you that he wouldn't get that much..right?
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:36:27 PM | Message Detail
Basically, I can't see Ryu being almost consistent for 3 years and then suddenly dropping like mad on the 4th year

Yes, and how can Solid Snake drop so much?
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:37:05 PM | Message Detail
Solid hasn't been proved to be exactly the most consistent thing ever.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:37:42 PM | Message Detail
Nintendo may be dominant, but they're not invincible (that title can only be applied in any fashion to perhaps Link). 55% is a bit much, but I've said it before--if we're seeing a Nintendo increase across the board, there's little reason to believe Zelda didn't benefit. If she went up significantly at all, Snake is higher than his 2k3 level. And that should be enough to clear Bowser.

Not to mention I always thought Ryu was overrated in 2k3/2k4, but that's another story.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:37:44 PM | Message Detail
Completely unrelated, random thought: Vercetti's usually a huge casual bracket magnet, right? Then how did he concede so much prediction percentage to Kefka, especially when the board called that one right?
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:37:45 PM | Message Detail
And by extension, neither has Ryu.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:39:01 PM | Message Detail
Completely unrelated, random thought: Vercetti's usually a huge casual bracket magnet, right? Then how did he concede so much prediction percentage to Kefka, especially when the board called that one right?

Kefka's a bigger magnet. 56% against Knuckles. Vercetti's 6-seed probably didn't help, either.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:39:35 PM | Message Detail
Actually, Ryu is the second most consistent significant contender ever...
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:39:37 PM | Message Detail
Well, Ryu has been about the same strength at least for the last 3 contests.

Again, I'm not saying Snake won't win, I'm just saying that he won't get that much of a margin. It would make that division totally a joke.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:40:21 PM | Message Detail
People put too much weight on the Spring Contest. That's why Kefka's percentage was so high.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:42:47 PM | Message Detail
Kefka wasn't stellar in the villain contest, though. 64% on Mithos? (Speaking of which, I haven't even seen Mithos yet, and I'm probably a decent bit into the game now.) 46% against Diablo? Hardly even underwhelming.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:44:21 PM | Message Detail
Do the stats still predict Mithos > Lloyd? Don't make me smack them.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:45:13 PM | Message Detail
I don't know why the casuals put a bit too much faith in some characters like Ganondorf and Diablo cause of the villain contest, I've heard some had Ganondorf > Samus and Diablo > Sonic.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:46:14 PM | Message Detail
Kefka wasn't stellar in the villain contest, though. 64% on Mithos? (Speaking of which, I haven't even seen Mithos yet, and I'm probably a decent bit into the game now.) 46% against Diablo? Hardly even underwhelming.

I think it was more that he had a 1-seed and advanced 2 rounds.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:47:55 PM | Message Detail
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/27/2005 8:44:21 PM | #485
Do the stats still predict Mithos > Lloyd? Don't make me smack them.

Lloyd did good against Zero, so I think not.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:48:14 PM | Message Detail
From the looks of it, I wouldn't be surprised if Samus isn't the bracket favorite to get out of her division.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:48:38 PM | Message Detail
He didn't do THAT well. Unadjusted Zero validates Wesker, if I'm not mistaken.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:49:34 PM | Message Detail
Lloyd did good against Zero, so I think not.

... he nearly got tripled.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:49:38 PM | Message Detail
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/27/2005 8:48:38 PM | #490
He didn't do THAT well. Unadjusted Zero validates Wesker, if I'm not mistaken.

So does Wesker through Luca through Magus through Knuckles...
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:50:20 PM | Message Detail
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 8:49:34 PM | #491
Lloyd did good against Zero, so I think not.

... he nearly got tripled.


He still didn't quite get the beating the stats projected.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:51:07 PM | Message Detail
He still didn't quite get the beating the stats projected.

That's because Lloyd underperformed on Wesker. =\
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:51:22 PM | Message Detail
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/28/2005 1:47:55 AM | #488
Lloyd did good against Zero, so I think not.

He did roughly the same as Ansem did against Ganondorf, who I have in the same tier as Zero. If putting up similar numbers as someone who struggled with CATS qualifies as "did good", I'd hate to see what "did bad" is.
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From: Warrior of Chaos | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:51:32 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:51:56 PM | Message Detail
No, that's OBVIOUSLY Angel Kefka at work! -_^
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:52:00 PM | Message Detail
Who pointed out the white spot, because I just TOTALLY noticed that now.
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From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:52:07 PM | Message Detail
*Final Fantasy VII Spoilers*





































Rufus dies.
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From: Warrior of Chaos | Posted: 8/27/2005 5:52:15 PM | Message Detail
2q
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