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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 218
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:29:42 PM | Message Detail
We can't necessarily make such an assumption just based off of Zelda's match with Vivi.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:29:48 PM | Message Detail
Why would Zelda of all characters stay constant with this huge Nintendo boost going on?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:30:31 PM | Message Detail
Why would Zelda of all characters stay constant with this huge Nintendo boost going on?

I think some people are blowing this "boost" way out of proportion, myself.

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:33:36 PM | Message Detail
But I'm not trying to say that Zelda didn't increase at all. It's very possible that she could have, but at the same time, you cannot say for absolute certain that she did -- especially with Snake's adjusted ranking predicting him to beat 2003 Zelda with near perfection.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:35:14 PM | Message Detail
Why would Zelda of all characters stay constant with this huge Nintendo boost going on?

Once again, this so-called "Nintendo boost" has been anything but huge. It's been within a reasonable amount for nearly everyone.
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:40:22 PM | Message Detail
Why would Zelda of all characters stay constant with this huge Nintendo boost going on

TP is the only thing Zelda has for hype.

But hype is very very bad for your bracket's health! :-)))
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:49:33 PM | Message Detail
so, has everyone been keeping up with their analysis to send to Ulti? >_>

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:50:06 PM | Message Detail
Today is my match. It's been a lot more boring than I thought it would be though.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:50:12 PM | Message Detail
lol, PCA.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:50:43 PM | Message Detail
Huzzah for 100,000 votes!
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:51:00 PM | Message Detail
what email were we supposed to send them to anyways?

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From: Tai | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:51:38 PM | Message Detail
You'd actually take Ryu over Zelda?

Zelda's now under Frog...

Yeah, Ryu would win.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:51:55 PM | Message Detail
Didin't Zelda have that Zelda Collection that you guys keep saying boosted Ganondorf up?
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:53:22 PM | Message Detail
Zelda's now under Frog...

*looks at Samus/Frog*

You sure about that?
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:54:10 PM | Message Detail
*looks at Samus/Frog*

You sure about that?


Why are you looking at that match when they both faced Snake directly? Come on now...
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:56:09 PM | Message Detail
Why are you looking at that match when they both faced Snake directly? Come on now...

At least someone got it. :-)
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From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:00:00 PM | Message Detail
Would anyone seriously take Frog over Zelda? >_>


~RPGGamer~
From: Tai | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:01:54 PM | Message Detail
You're right! X-STATS BLOW! XD

In other news, with TP, I think Zelda would pull off the win.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:02:50 PM | Message Detail
If Riku could get that close to Frog, there's no way Zelda wouldn't beat him. I would easily take her over Riku.
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:06:57 PM | Message Detail
and hey, i wanna call dibs on making Topic #219. it's been a loooooooooooong time since i got to make one and i just plain love both Ryu and Bowser. ^_^

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:08:22 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bowser approach Snake's level of performance on Ryu here.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:10:52 PM | Message Detail
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:11:24 PM | Message Detail
Obviously Zelda is stronger than Frog. Solid **** + Sprite Frog conspired for that result last year (and maybe Snake just had a down year, though I'd blame it more on the former).

Magus was overrated, but I'd still take Sprite Magus to beat Knuckles in a match today.
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From: Chinballz | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:22:09 PM | Message Detail
What if Knuckles also had a sprite?
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:23:55 PM | Message Detail
There's good reason to believe that Chrono Trigger characters (specifically Magus and Frog) are more sensitive to their sprites than other characters are.

I think that other SNES RPG characters (like Cecil) would "suffer" from this as well.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:27:18 PM | Message Detail
Eh, I still don't think any picture factor is much of one. I mean that Snake/Zelda pic was awful...and then snake preceded to smash Zelda. I mean, that was an awful picture. But the result still seemed to be ok. Pictures aren't going to do much.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:30:56 PM | Message Detail
The data is inconclusive, but it's a question of letting your money speak for you; or in this case, how you act when you have something at stake.

If there was some match where Frog might or might not have his sprite picture, no doubt people would change their Oracle prediction based upon this information. I certainly would, and you'd likely see a clear shift in the consensus as well. To ignore this would seem to be an ineffective choice.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:33:13 PM | Message Detail
Pictures aren't going to do much.

Oh, and we certainly have very strong evidence that is statement is false at least in some situations.

IMO this is mostly a case of biased thought; people would like to think that pictures don't matter at all. The reality is inevitably more complex.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:37:02 PM | Message Detail
In a Frog/Zelda match, I'm not sure how many people here would realistically take the former.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:38:12 PM | Message Detail
Go ahead and make the topic, cyko.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:39:33 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, we might need it in a few hours, regardless of the outcome of the early vote >_>
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:41:18 PM | Message Detail
As of right now, Tidus = Ramza, heh. 57.66% with 20 minutes left for Kirby.

And I'll say about 41.84% have Kirby advancing to the next round. Being a 1 seed should help him more than Sora.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:41:24 PM | Message Detail
I'm expecting Bowser to come out with all cylinders rolling. It would honestly surprise me if Ryu holds a lead for longer than a few seconds.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:42:38 PM | Message Detail
If Ryu can hold the lead against Sonic, I'm positive he can do the same against Bowser, at least for a little while.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:42:38 PM | Message Detail
I'd be surprised if Ryu didn't lead for more than a few seconds... because he isn't winning the board vote, but might lead for a few updates.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:43:30 PM | Message Detail
I'm expecting Bowser to come out with all cylinders rolling. It would honestly surprise me if Ryu holds a lead for longer than a few seconds.

I can see Bowser destroying the board vote, but Street Fighter has always had a strong vote at night.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:44:28 PM | Message Detail
Well, Bowser and Ryu are both quite popular around here. The Koopa King shouldn't have a significant advantage with it, I don't think. He should get bracket voting on his side though.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:45:32 PM | Message Detail
Bowser will do quite well early before Ryu starts slowing him down. Ryu will then slowly gain in percentage throughout the night before the day vote hits him hard.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:46:51 PM | Message Detail
Eh, I don't think the day vote will hit him THAT hard. Once the morning vote passed, Chun-Li took off a lot of percentage.
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:47:43 PM | Message Detail
i'm saying that Ryu will hang in there for about 15 minutes, but no more than that.

and, i am calling 37.45% of the brackets for Kirby.

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:48:40 PM | Message Detail
43.09% will have Kirby advancing. I expect Tidus to be the favorite, but not by much.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:50:32 PM | Message Detail
33.33% for Kirby
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:55:23 PM | Message Detail
39.54% for the Puffball
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:57:23 PM | Message Detail
50% for Kirb-ay.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:58:47 PM | Message Detail
He should get bracket voting on his side though.

I wonder about that. I'd be shocked if he had Snake like numbers, though. I think the best number for him to have would be under 60% somewhere, because it should still be a close match either way. Under 60% for either of them, really.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/26/2005 11:59:08 PM | Message Detail
If Ryu loses a guru shall beat my bracket and I shall stop caring.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/27/2005 12:00:11 AM | Message Detail
Bowser 62.5% 5
Ryu 37.5% 3
TOTAL VOTES 8
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Bowser vs. Ryu - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Bowser (40/46)
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/27/2005 12:00:20 AM | Message Detail
Bowser 69.23% 9
Ryu 30.77% 4
TOTAL VOTES 13
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/27/2005 12:00:40 AM | Message Detail
Bowser 65.63% 42
Ryu 34.38% 22
TOTAL VOTES 64

54.53% for Kirby.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/27/2005 12:00:44 AM | Message Detail
Bowser 71.43% 10
Ryu 28.57% 4
TOTAL VOTES 14

Kirby was the favorite by that much? O_o
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